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Would you say that the Obama's benefited more from their skin color than they have been harmed on account of their skin color in America today?
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you're full of shit.SFGbob said:The left doesn't have the type of racism that existed back before the 60s civil rights movement, where they want to turn fire hoses on blacks and stop them from going to school with their kids like their fellow Rat part members did many years ago, but they definitely don't see most blacks as there equals and they have some very racist paternalistic beliefs about blacks.
They excuse behavior and actions by blacks that they would never tolerate or accept if it was being carried out by white people. They are constantly holding blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance because they don't view them as their equals. -
Hey Coug, can you give me some example of how "red neck America" went right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black President? Seems if you really are a racist, then you're not going to care what black person's politics are.
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Your 2nd paragraph nails the bullseye.SFGbob said:The left doesn't have the type of racism that existed back before the 60s civil rights movement, where they want to turn fire hoses on blacks and stop them from going to school with their kids like their fellow Rat part members did many years ago, but they definitely don't see most blacks as there equals and they have some very racist paternalistic beliefs about blacks.
They excuse behavior and actions by blacks that they would never tolerate or accept if it was being carried out by white people. They are constantly holding blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance because they don't view them as their equals. -
CJ Pearson, circa 2040 or 2044.ThomasFremont said:
There will never be a black conservative President, ya doofus.RaceBannon said:
Carson was hit with racist bullshit just or runningThomasFremont said:
Hypothetical racism for black conservative president vs actual documented examples of racism towards Obama.RaceBannon said:
Lets get realcreepycoug said:
Anyone who thinks this country was entirely ready for a black president is just working too hard.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
Sure, if it had been Allen West or Ben Carson, it would have been much less controversial; but the fact that red neck America goes right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black president is all you need to know - it's still there, like it or not.
And, no, it wasn't like with Trump. People make fun of Trump's hair, ass, tanning cream and verbal skills. And not infrequently, the content of what he says. That's an equal opportunity thing, especially the hair, which is just asking for it. It gets more ridiculous by the day. Grow some balls and shave it already Donnie. Jimminy, everyone knows you're bald. Who cares?
All that is different than memes portraying Michelle as a monkey/ape with a banana, and effigies of Obama being lynched. They also seem to like to use his middle name to make some kind of point as well, though I think that, along with the birther stuff, is more about Islamophobia, which in my estimation is different than racism.
We already saw how the left and the mainstream media savaged Carson just for running and for being a part of team Trump
This idea that only conservatives have an issue with a Black president is fucking stupid. There would be a meltdown of epic proportions with a conservative Black president and it would be racist as fuck
And you know it
90% is the magic number. Dems go under that with the Black vote and they can't win a national election
“lol”
Try to keep up
Nothing hypothetical about it
And by the mainstream not some kooks that you can't even bother to link to
Even your hypothetical is a THUD.
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Brutal rebuttal Coug, you destroyed my argument. I can't tell you how much it hurts hearing that I'm full of shit coming from a guy who thinks calling Conservative blacks "Uncle Tom's" and sellouts is just a way to let them know they aren't on your team.creepycoug said:
you're full of shit.SFGbob said:The left doesn't have the type of racism that existed back before the 60s civil rights movement, where they want to turn fire hoses on blacks and stop them from going to school with their kids like their fellow Rat part members did many years ago, but they definitely don't see most blacks as there equals and they have some very racist paternalistic beliefs about blacks.
They excuse behavior and actions by blacks that they would never tolerate or accept if it was being carried out by white people. They are constantly holding blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance because they don't view them as their equals. -
I’ll be out there next season for the opener on Montlake. Thinking of ditching E-1 for the sailgate life permanently.RaceBannon said:
What time are we leaving port?ThomasFremont said:
LOLTurdBuffer said:
Basement Life sounds hard. And you sound poor.ThomasFremont said:
Unemployment was already low. Wages are still stagnant.RaceBannon said:The stock market was Obama's big claim to fame
I'm talking employment and wages. HTH
And you don’t care about the unemployed OR their wages.
Come on over to my yacht and say it to my face.
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As soon as you give me an example of a liberal racist criticizing Clarence "No Questions" Thomas.SFGbob said:Hey Coug, can you give me some example of how "red neck America" went right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black President? Seems if you really are a racist, then you're not going to care what black person's politics are.
Oops! I'm a racist!
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I need proof. Care to have bob cite an example?salemcoog said:
Your 2nd paragraph nails the bullseye.SFGbob said:The left doesn't have the type of racism that existed back before the 60s civil rights movement, where they want to turn fire hoses on blacks and stop them from going to school with their kids like their fellow Rat part members did many years ago, but they definitely don't see most blacks as there equals and they have some very racist paternalistic beliefs about blacks.
They excuse behavior and actions by blacks that they would never tolerate or accept if it was being carried out by white people. They are constantly holding blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance because they don't view them as their equals. -
What is affirmative action other than a way to hold blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance?creepycoug said:
I need proof. Care to have bob cite an example?salemcoog said:
Your 2nd paragraph nails the bullseye.SFGbob said:The left doesn't have the type of racism that existed back before the 60s civil rights movement, where they want to turn fire hoses on blacks and stop them from going to school with their kids like their fellow Rat part members did many years ago, but they definitely don't see most blacks as there equals and they have some very racist paternalistic beliefs about blacks.
They excuse behavior and actions by blacks that they would never tolerate or accept if it was being carried out by white people. They are constantly holding blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance because they don't view them as their equals.
Berkeley High, near where I live, was having the same problem a lot of schools have. High rates of blacks being suspended from school. 20% of the Student body is black but blacks were accounting for 60% of the suspensions. Besides having high rates of fighting and engaging in other behaviors that we get you suspended from school they found that black students are much more likely to "act out" in class. When I looked into examples of "acting out" it included calling your teacher a "bitch" and using racial slurs and profanity in class directed at the teacher. Instead of declaring that kind of behavior unacceptable, Berkeley decided that the answer was to hire more black teachers, and to "educate" their current teachers that "acting out" in class is just part of black culture, very similar to what they tried to do with ebonics.
It's a clear case of defining deviancy down.
Schools all over the country have cut their suspension rates of black students not by eliminating the behavior that caused the student to be suspended in the first place but by allowing more behaviors that would have gotten a student suspended under the old policies.
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Here's a couple good articles on the topic.
https://americanexperiment.org/article/no-thug-left-behind/
https://powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/03/discipline-quotas-the-obama-administrations-evil-lives-on.php -
Silva attacked the racial-equity discipline gap at its alleged root: “white privilege.” Teachers unfairly punish minority students for “largely subjective” behaviors, such as “defiance, disrespect and disruption,” she told the Minneapolis Star Tribune in 2012. To overcome their biases, teachers must learn “a true appreciation” of their students’ cultural “differences” and how these can “impact interactions in the classroom,” she said.
Silva hired a California-based diversity consultant, the Pacific Educational Group (PEG), to compel St. Paul school staff—from principals to janitors to bus drivers—to confront their own bigotry and to achieve “cultural competence” in working with “black and brown” students. In PEG-inspired “courageous conversations” about race, teachers were instructed to begin every statement with a phrase like “as a white woman, I believe,” or “as a black man, I think.” They learned that “shouting out” answers in class and lack of punctuality are black cultural traits and that what may seem to be defiant student behavior is, in fact, just a culturally conditioned expression of “enthusiasm.”
After implementing “white privilege” training, Silva moved to eliminate what she called the “punishment mentality” undergirding the district’s discipline model. In an effort to cut black discipline referrals, she lowered behavior expectations and dropped meaningful penalties for student misconduct. In 2012, the district removed “continual willful disobedience” as a suspendable offense. In addition, to close the “school-to-prison pipeline,” Silva adopted a new protocol on interactions between schools and the police. The protocol ranked student offenses on five levels and required schools to report only the worst—including arson, aggravated assault, and firearm possession—to police. School officials were strongly encouraged to handle other serious offenses—such as assault, sexual violence, and drug possession—on their own. For a time, the district administration actually tied principals’ bonuses to their track record on reducing black discipline referrals.
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You did it for years fuck face.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists. -
FREE PUB !!!1!1creepycoug said:
As soon as you give me an example of a liberal racist criticizing Clarence "No Questions" Thomas.SFGbob said:Hey Coug, can you give me some example of how "red neck America" went right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black President? Seems if you really are a racist, then you're not going to care what black person's politics are.
Oops! I'm a racist!
#clockworkshill
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Lowest common denominator........
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This scenario, unfortunately, is true, and getting worse all the time.SFGbob said:
What is affirmative action other than a way to hold blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance?creepycoug said:
I need proof. Care to have bob cite an example?salemcoog said:
Your 2nd paragraph nails the bullseye.SFGbob said:The left doesn't have the type of racism that existed back before the 60s civil rights movement, where they want to turn fire hoses on blacks and stop them from going to school with their kids like their fellow Rat part members did many years ago, but they definitely don't see most blacks as there equals and they have some very racist paternalistic beliefs about blacks.
They excuse behavior and actions by blacks that they would never tolerate or accept if it was being carried out by white people. They are constantly holding blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance because they don't view them as their equals.
Berkeley High, near where I live, was having the same problem a lot of schools have. High rates of blacks being suspended from school. 20% of the Student body is black but blacks were accounting for 60% of the suspensions. Besides having high rates of fighting and engaging in other behaviors that we get you suspended from school they found that black students are much more likely to "act out" in class. When I looked into examples of "acting out" it included calling your teacher a "bitch" and using racial slurs and profanity in class directed at the teacher. Instead of declaring that kind of behavior unacceptable, Berkeley decided that the answer was to hire more black teachers, and to "educate" their current teachers that "acting out" in class is just part of black culture, very similar to what they tried to do with ebonics.
It's a clear case of defining deviancy down.
Schools all over the country have cut their suspension rates of black students not by eliminating the behavior that caused the student to be suspended in the first place but by allowing more behaviors that would have gotten a student suspended under the old policies. -
People who subscribe to this nonsense should be jailed for their own protection.SFGbob said:Silva attacked the racial-equity discipline gap at its alleged root: “white privilege.” Teachers unfairly punish minority students for “largely subjective” behaviors, such as “defiance, disrespect and disruption,” she told the Minneapolis Star Tribune in 2012. To overcome their biases, teachers must learn “a true appreciation” of their students’ cultural “differences” and how these can “impact interactions in the classroom,” she said.
Silva hired a California-based diversity consultant, the Pacific Educational Group (PEG), to compel St. Paul school staff—from principals to janitors to bus drivers—to confront their own bigotry and to achieve “cultural competence” in working with “black and brown” students. In PEG-inspired “courageous conversations” about race, teachers were instructed to begin every statement with a phrase like “as a white woman, I believe,” or “as a black man, I think.” They learned that “shouting out” answers in class and lack of punctuality are black cultural traits and that what may seem to be defiant student behavior is, in fact, just a culturally conditioned expression of “enthusiasm.”
After implementing “white privilege” training, Silva moved to eliminate what she called the “punishment mentality” undergirding the district’s discipline model. In an effort to cut black discipline referrals, she lowered behavior expectations and dropped meaningful penalties for student misconduct. In 2012, the district removed “continual willful disobedience” as a suspendable offense. In addition, to close the “school-to-prison pipeline,” Silva adopted a new protocol on interactions between schools and the police. The protocol ranked student offenses on five levels and required schools to report only the worst—including arson, aggravated assault, and firearm possession—to police. School officials were strongly encouraged to handle other serious offenses—such as assault, sexual violence, and drug possession—on their own. For a time, the district administration actually tied principals’ bonuses to their track record on reducing black discipline referrals.
The beauty of it all is that, despite massive efforts to shift blame and make it seem like the "system" and white people are the problem, everywhere they've implemented these "reforms," the violent behavior, frequency of occurrences and seriousness of the offenses has escalated massively. It happened in Highline, where 30% of the teaching staff bolted after one year of it, many in fear of their safety and lives. It's such an anti-empirical, bankrupt idea, it fails almost instantly, everywhere it's been tried. -
Proof?creepycoug said:
I need proof. Care to have bob cite an example?salemcoog said:
Your 2nd paragraph nails the bullseye.SFGbob said:The left doesn't have the type of racism that existed back before the 60s civil rights movement, where they want to turn fire hoses on blacks and stop them from going to school with their kids like their fellow Rat part members did many years ago, but they definitely don't see most blacks as there equals and they have some very racist paternalistic beliefs about blacks.
They excuse behavior and actions by blacks that they would never tolerate or accept if it was being carried out by white people. They are constantly holding blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance because they don't view them as their equals.
No proof.
No lync.
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Focus on the behavior issues, not the skin color. This fucktarded policy has been implemented all over the cuntry.SFGbob said:
What is affirmative action other than a way to hold blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance?creepycoug said:
I need proof. Care to have bob cite an example?salemcoog said:
Your 2nd paragraph nails the bullseye.SFGbob said:The left doesn't have the type of racism that existed back before the 60s civil rights movement, where they want to turn fire hoses on blacks and stop them from going to school with their kids like their fellow Rat part members did many years ago, but they definitely don't see most blacks as there equals and they have some very racist paternalistic beliefs about blacks.
They excuse behavior and actions by blacks that they would never tolerate or accept if it was being carried out by white people. They are constantly holding blacks to lower standards of behavior and performance because they don't view them as their equals.
Berkeley High, near where I live, was having the same problem a lot of schools have. High rates of blacks being suspended from school. 20% of the Student body is black but blacks were accounting for 60% of the suspensions. Besides having high rates of fighting and engaging in other behaviors that we get you suspended from school they found that black students are much more likely to "act out" in class. When I looked into examples of "acting out" it included calling your teacher a "bitch" and using racial slurs and profanity in class directed at the teacher. Instead of declaring that kind of behavior unacceptable, Berkeley decided that the answer was to hire more black teachers, and to "educate" their current teachers that "acting out" in class is just part of black culture, very similar to what they tried to do with ebonics.
It's a clear case of defining deviancy down.
Schools all over the country have cut their suspension rates ofblackALL students not by eliminating the behavior that caused the student to be suspended in the first place but by allowing more behaviors that would have gotten a student suspended under the old policies.
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No bat shit crazy also plays a roll.RaceBannon said:Whole lot of folks telling him he is on the wrong team @creepycoug
It almost looks like they think skin color should select your political views.
But we know better
