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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I asked you to drink bleach. Why the delay?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

    Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

    This is the genesis of your confusion.

    You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.

    Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.

    TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
    If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.



    No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.

    As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.

    I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.

    Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
    Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.

    What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
    People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.
    Go fuck yourself.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club

    Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more

    Little shitwads like hondo get no slack

    I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person or any member of an historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.

    My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.

    I also agree to an extend that white liberals telling black people how to vote are, at the very least, over-stepping some boundaries.
    Wait, black people can design bridges?
  • KkkliffKkklingsbury
    KkkliffKkklingsbury Member Posts: 151
    Swaye said:

    Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more

    Little shitwads like hondo get no slack

    I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person or any member of an historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.

    My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.

    I also agree to an extend that white liberals telling black people how to vote are, at the very least, over-stepping some boundaries.
    Wait, black people can design bridges?

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

    Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

    This is the genesis of your confusion.

    You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.

    Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.

    TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
    If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.



    No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.

    As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.

    I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.

    Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
    Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.

    What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
    People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.
    It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

    Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

    This is the genesis of your confusion.

    You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.

    Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.

    TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
    If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.



    No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.

    As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.

    I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.

    Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
    Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.

    What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
    People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.
    It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?
    Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

    Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

    This is the genesis of your confusion.

    You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.

    Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.

    TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
    If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.



    No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.

    As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.

    I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.

    Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
    Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.

    What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
    People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.
    It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?
    It’s enjoyable to watch you two retards try and make a good point. Keep up the good work.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

    Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

    This is the genesis of your confusion.

    You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.

    Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.

    TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
    If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.



    No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.

    As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.

    I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.

    Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
    Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.

    What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
    People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.
    It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?
    Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.
    No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.


    https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html

    https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/

    https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,286
    Swaye said:

    Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more

    Little shitwads like hondo get no slack

    I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person or any member of an historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.

    My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.

    I also agree to an extend that white liberals telling black people how to vote are, at the very least, over-stepping some boundaries.
    Wait, black people can design bridges?
    Only the conservative ones. They all work for one firm: Uncle Tom's Bridge and Iron Works, Chicago, Il.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

    Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

    This is the genesis of your confusion.

    You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.

    Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.

    TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
    If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.



    No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.

    As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.

    I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.

    Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
    Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.

    What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
    People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.
    It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?
    Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.
    No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.


    https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html

    https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/

    https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
    There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.

    The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.

    The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.