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I feel it's more cause you don't know how to read for comprehension. But ok! Nice rant anyways.SFGbob said:
Fuck that strawman's ass Coug. No one is calling you racist simply for calling a black conservative stupid. I love how you keep fucking this chicken all while avoiding what I'm actually saying. For such a "smart" guy you sure argue like a dishonest dumbfuck.creepycoug said:
Why are you so fixated on that point?SFGbob said:Despite your whitewashing of how the term "Uncle Tom" and "Sellout" and "Oreo" as really just a benign way of saying, "hey, I think you're on the wrong team" the reality is that's not the way any of those insults are used today, especially when they're used by white liberals.
Without entirely agreeing with you on it, I've stipulated it because I don't need it.
My point stands w/o having to rationalize those terms.
At this point, you're squeezing blood out of a turnip.
Bottom line is that if you call me a racist for saying Allen West is a dumb fuck for being a staunch right winger, I'm going to tell you to fuck off. If I were black, I'd laff at you and then tell you fuck off.
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Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists. -
I feel it's more on account of you being a lying moron Hondo. I read for comprehension just fine.2001400ex said:
I feel it's more cause you don't know how to read for comprehension. But ok! Nice rant anyways.SFGbob said:
Fuck that strawman's ass Coug. No one is calling you racist simply for calling a black conservative stupid. I love how you keep fucking this chicken all while avoiding what I'm actually saying. For such a "smart" guy you sure argue like a dishonest dumbfuck.creepycoug said:
Why are you so fixated on that point?SFGbob said:Despite your whitewashing of how the term "Uncle Tom" and "Sellout" and "Oreo" as really just a benign way of saying, "hey, I think you're on the wrong team" the reality is that's not the way any of those insults are used today, especially when they're used by white liberals.
Without entirely agreeing with you on it, I've stipulated it because I don't need it.
My point stands w/o having to rationalize those terms.
At this point, you're squeezing blood out of a turnip.
Bottom line is that if you call me a racist for saying Allen West is a dumb fuck for being a staunch right winger, I'm going to tell you to fuck off. If I were black, I'd laff at you and then tell you fuck off.
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And this brings us back to the original point: that liberal, black or white, criticism of Clarence Thomas is not necessarily, or even likely, 'thinly veiled racism," which was your assertion. Political? Maybe. Or maybe by their own measures they don't think highly of him as an appellate jurist.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
I really don't know what else to do here. I've made my case abundantly clear. -
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists. -
Fuck long, fuck hard, fuck strong, the strawman needs love too Coug.creepycoug said:
And this brings us back to the original point: that liberal, black or white, criticism of Clarence Thomas is not necessarily, or even likely, 'thinly veiled racism," which was your assertion. Political? Maybe. Or maybe by their own measures they don't think highly of him as an appellate jurist.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
I really don't know what else to do here. I've made my case abundantly clear.
What I said was the constant criticism of Thomas intelligence was thinly veiled racism. Now please return to that strawman bunghole, Hondo will be here shortly to tongue your ass.
And none of this has anything to do with the people who call him an Uncle Tom. They aren’t calling him a UT because they don’t think highly of him as a jurist. Never heard them call Scalia an Uncle Tom
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See my post above yours. I asked you to support your assertion.SFGbob said:
Fuck long, fuck hard, fuck strong, the strawman needs love too Coug.creepycoug said:
And this brings us back to the original point: that liberal, black or white, criticism of Clarence Thomas is not necessarily, or even likely, 'thinly veiled racism," which was your assertion. Political? Maybe. Or maybe by their own measures they don't think highly of him as an appellate jurist.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
I really don't know what else to do here. I've made my case abundantly clear.
What I said was the constant criticism of Thomas intelligence was thinly veiled racism. Now please return to that strawman bunghole, Hondo will be here shortly to tongue your ass.
And none of this has anything to do with the people who call him an Uncle Tom. They aren’t calling him a UT because they don’t think highly of him as a jurist. Never heard them call Scalia an Uncle Tom -
Why is it thinly veiled racism? Because he's black?SFGbob said:
Fuck long, fuck hard, fuck strong, the strawman needs love too Coug.creepycoug said:
And this brings us back to the original point: that liberal, black or white, criticism of Clarence Thomas is not necessarily, or even likely, 'thinly veiled racism," which was your assertion. Political? Maybe. Or maybe by their own measures they don't think highly of him as an appellate jurist.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
I really don't know what else to do here. I've made my case abundantly clear.
What I said was the constant criticism of Thomas intelligence was thinly veiled racism. Now please return to that strawman bunghole, Hondo will be here shortly to tongue your ass.
And none of this has anything to do with the people who call him an Uncle Tom. They aren’t calling him a UT because they don’t think highly of him as a jurist. Never heard them call Scalia an Uncle Tom
Do liberals not ever say white judges or politicians are stupid? What do we call it when they do that?
Face it: you were just crying racism because, in that instance, it was convenient.
I thought playing the race card was lazy.
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I asked you to drink bleach. Why the delay?
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Go fuck yourself.2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists. -
Wait, black people can design bridges?creepycoug said:
I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person or any member of an historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.RaceBannon said:Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more
Little shitwads like hondo get no slack
My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.
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Swaye said:
Wait, black people can design bridges?creepycoug said:
I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person or any member of an historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.RaceBannon said:Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more
Little shitwads like hondo get no slack
My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.
I also agree to an extend that white liberals telling black people how to vote are, at the very least, over-stepping some boundaries.
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It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists. -
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists. -
It’s enjoyable to watch you two retards try and make a good point. Keep up the good work.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists. -
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/ -
Only the conservative ones. They all work for one firm: Uncle Tom's Bridge and Iron Works, Chicago, Il.Swaye said:
Wait, black people can design bridges?creepycoug said:
I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person or any member of an historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.RaceBannon said:Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more
Little shitwads like hondo get no slack
My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.
I also agree to an extend that white liberals telling black people how to vote are, at the very least, over-stepping some boundaries. -
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process. -
Anyone who thinks this country was entirely ready for a black president is just working too hard.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
Sure, if it had been Allen West or Ben Carson, it would have been much less controversial; but the fact that red neck America goes right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black president is all you need to know - it's still there, like it or not.
And, no, it wasn't like with Trump. People make fun of Trump's hair, ass, tanning cream and verbal skills. And not infrequently, the content of what he says. That's an equal opportunity thing, especially the hair, which is just asking for it. It gets more ridiculous by the day. Grow some balls and shave it already Donnie. Jimminy, everyone knows you're bald. Who cares?
All that is different than memes portraying Michelle as a monkey/ape with a banana, and effigies of Obama being lynched. They also seem to like to use his middle name to make some kind of point as well, though I think that, along with the birther stuff, is more about Islamophobia, which in my estimation is different than racism. -
And there's the strawman ass fuck.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
-
Lets get realcreepycoug said:
Anyone who thinks this country was entirely ready for a black president is just working too hard.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
Sure, if it had been Allen West or Ben Carson, it would have been much less controversial; but the fact that red neck America goes right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black president is all you need to know - it's still there, like it or not.
And, no, it wasn't like with Trump. People make fun of Trump's hair, ass, tanning cream and verbal skills. And not infrequently, the content of what he says. That's an equal opportunity thing, especially the hair, which is just asking for it. It gets more ridiculous by the day. Grow some balls and shave it already Donnie. Jimminy, everyone knows you're bald. Who cares?
All that is different than memes portraying Michelle as a monkey/ape with a banana, and effigies of Obama being lynched. They also seem to like to use his middle name to make some kind of point as well, though I think that, along with the birther stuff, is more about Islamophobia, which in my estimation is different than racism.
We already saw how the left and the mainstream media savaged Carson just for running and for being a part of team Trump
This idea that only conservatives have an issue with a Black president is fucking stupid. There would be a meltdown of epic proportions with a conservative Black president and it would be racist as fuck
And you know it
90% is the magic number. Dems go under that with the Black vote and they can't win a national election -
This is a continuance of the Thomas conversation.RaceBannon said:
Lets get realcreepycoug said:
Anyone who thinks this country was entirely ready for a black president is just working too hard.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
Sure, if it had been Allen West or Ben Carson, it would have been much less controversial; but the fact that red neck America goes right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black president is all you need to know - it's still there, like it or not.
And, no, it wasn't like with Trump. People make fun of Trump's hair, ass, tanning cream and verbal skills. And not infrequently, the content of what he says. That's an equal opportunity thing, especially the hair, which is just asking for it. It gets more ridiculous by the day. Grow some balls and shave it already Donnie. Jimminy, everyone knows you're bald. Who cares?
All that is different than memes portraying Michelle as a monkey/ape with a banana, and effigies of Obama being lynched. They also seem to like to use his middle name to make some kind of point as well, though I think that, along with the birther stuff, is more about Islamophobia, which in my estimation is different than racism.
We already saw how the left and the mainstream media savaged Carson just for running and for being a part of team Trump
This idea that only conservatives have an issue with a Black president is fucking stupid. There would be a meltdown of epic proportions with a conservative Black president and it would be racist as fuck
And you know it
90% is the magic number. Dems go under that with the Black vote and they can't win a national election
Yes, the left savaged Carson, but they didn't hang his effigy to look like a lynching or meme him to look like a monkey. I didn't and wouldn't say that 'conservatives' took issue with Obama did so for racist reasons.
With that settled, what I am saying is that Obama's ascension to the presidency didn't sit well with many white rednecks and other people who still have underlying issues with race. You've gone on record as acknowledging that there's still a lot of racism in the country, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.
Anticipating that you'll say that those people represent the fringe, I might agree with you but add that it's a little more than the fringe crazies we all saw in Charlotte.
But, no, I don't think that represents the conservatives in the main. -
IN other words
I'm right
And there was plenty of racist shit thrown at Carson using the criticism of Obama was racist standard
I like how folks just throw out this alleged seething cauldron of rednecks who hated the idea of a Black president
We also already showed how whitey got Obama elected twice -
Hypothetical racism for black conservative president vs actual documented examples of racism towards Obama.RaceBannon said:
Lets get realcreepycoug said:
Anyone who thinks this country was entirely ready for a black president is just working too hard.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
Sure, if it had been Allen West or Ben Carson, it would have been much less controversial; but the fact that red neck America goes right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black president is all you need to know - it's still there, like it or not.
And, no, it wasn't like with Trump. People make fun of Trump's hair, ass, tanning cream and verbal skills. And not infrequently, the content of what he says. That's an equal opportunity thing, especially the hair, which is just asking for it. It gets more ridiculous by the day. Grow some balls and shave it already Donnie. Jimminy, everyone knows you're bald. Who cares?
All that is different than memes portraying Michelle as a monkey/ape with a banana, and effigies of Obama being lynched. They also seem to like to use his middle name to make some kind of point as well, though I think that, along with the birther stuff, is more about Islamophobia, which in my estimation is different than racism.
We already saw how the left and the mainstream media savaged Carson just for running and for being a part of team Trump
This idea that only conservatives have an issue with a Black president is fucking stupid. There would be a meltdown of epic proportions with a conservative Black president and it would be racist as fuck
And you know it
90% is the magic number. Dems go under that with the Black vote and they can't win a national election
“lol” -
Carson was hit with racist bullshit just or runningThomasFremont said:
Hypothetical racism for black conservative president vs actual documented examples of racism towards Obama.RaceBannon said:
Lets get realcreepycoug said:
Anyone who thinks this country was entirely ready for a black president is just working too hard.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
Sure, if it had been Allen West or Ben Carson, it would have been much less controversial; but the fact that red neck America goes right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black president is all you need to know - it's still there, like it or not.
And, no, it wasn't like with Trump. People make fun of Trump's hair, ass, tanning cream and verbal skills. And not infrequently, the content of what he says. That's an equal opportunity thing, especially the hair, which is just asking for it. It gets more ridiculous by the day. Grow some balls and shave it already Donnie. Jimminy, everyone knows you're bald. Who cares?
All that is different than memes portraying Michelle as a monkey/ape with a banana, and effigies of Obama being lynched. They also seem to like to use his middle name to make some kind of point as well, though I think that, along with the birther stuff, is more about Islamophobia, which in my estimation is different than racism.
We already saw how the left and the mainstream media savaged Carson just for running and for being a part of team Trump
This idea that only conservatives have an issue with a Black president is fucking stupid. There would be a meltdown of epic proportions with a conservative Black president and it would be racist as fuck
And you know it
90% is the magic number. Dems go under that with the Black vote and they can't win a national election
“lol”
Try to keep up
Nothing hypothetical about it
And by the mainstream not some kooks that you can't even bother to link to -
Link to racist shit said about Carson from the left.RaceBannon said:
Carson was hit with racist bullshit just or runningThomasFremont said:
Hypothetical racism for black conservative president vs actual documented examples of racism towards Obama.RaceBannon said:
Lets get realcreepycoug said:
Anyone who thinks this country was entirely ready for a black president is just working too hard.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
Sure, if it had been Allen West or Ben Carson, it would have been much less controversial; but the fact that red neck America goes right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black president is all you need to know - it's still there, like it or not.
And, no, it wasn't like with Trump. People make fun of Trump's hair, ass, tanning cream and verbal skills. And not infrequently, the content of what he says. That's an equal opportunity thing, especially the hair, which is just asking for it. It gets more ridiculous by the day. Grow some balls and shave it already Donnie. Jimminy, everyone knows you're bald. Who cares?
All that is different than memes portraying Michelle as a monkey/ape with a banana, and effigies of Obama being lynched. They also seem to like to use his middle name to make some kind of point as well, though I think that, along with the birther stuff, is more about Islamophobia, which in my estimation is different than racism.
We already saw how the left and the mainstream media savaged Carson just for running and for being a part of team Trump
This idea that only conservatives have an issue with a Black president is fucking stupid. There would be a meltdown of epic proportions with a conservative Black president and it would be racist as fuck
And you know it
90% is the magic number. Dems go under that with the Black vote and they can't win a national election
“lol”
Try to keep up
Nothing hypothetical about it
And by the mainstream not some kooks that you can't even bother to link to -
There will never be a black conservative President, ya doofus.RaceBannon said:
Carson was hit with racist bullshit just or runningThomasFremont said:
Hypothetical racism for black conservative president vs actual documented examples of racism towards Obama.RaceBannon said:
Lets get realcreepycoug said:
Anyone who thinks this country was entirely ready for a black president is just working too hard.2001400ex said:
There you go. See you can provide links to back up your assertion.SFGbob said:
No problem Hondo, unlike you I'm not a Kunt. I was just trying to establish the depths of your ignorance first.2001400ex said:
Support your claim. Give examples of people being called racist when just disagreeing with Obama and not saying racist shit.SFGbob said:
It's shocking what an ignorant dumbfuck you are Hondo. I would guess that when Obama was in office his dick never left Hondo's mouth. So you're claiming that you're unaware of anyone being called a racist simply for criticizing Obama. That's you're claim, right Hondo?2001400ex said:
People who say racist shit get labeled racist. Give an example of someone criticizing Obama and being called a racist without making a racist comment. You made the claim, now back it up.SFGbob said:
Why do you continue with this pathetic strawman ass fuck Coug? No one is claiming simply calling Allen West a "fuck up" should get you label as a racist. You've been disabused of this bullshit claim of yours at least half a dozen times now and yet here we are again witnessing you mounting the strawman for one more round.creepycoug said:
No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush.
What funny as all hell is that we just spent 8 years under Obama where any criticism no matter how slight did get that person labeled as a racist. "Chicago" "Golf" hell, accurately calling Obama a liar, all would get you branded as a racist by leftists.
https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/29/msnbc_mitch_mcconnell_saying_obama_wants_to_be_in_pga_is_racist.html
https://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/15603/
The first one, O'Donnell is lame and he was questioning whether there was racial undertones in a future speech. I don't agree with his thought process but I wouldn't say he was screaming racist either.
The second article is a good article discussing whether there is basis behind racist comments. I do agree that a lot of comments about Obama were racially charged. You have to be a fucktard to think not one person made a racist comment about Obama. That article goes through that process.
Sure, if it had been Allen West or Ben Carson, it would have been much less controversial; but the fact that red neck America goes right for the racial jugular in responding to a liberal black president is all you need to know - it's still there, like it or not.
And, no, it wasn't like with Trump. People make fun of Trump's hair, ass, tanning cream and verbal skills. And not infrequently, the content of what he says. That's an equal opportunity thing, especially the hair, which is just asking for it. It gets more ridiculous by the day. Grow some balls and shave it already Donnie. Jimminy, everyone knows you're bald. Who cares?
All that is different than memes portraying Michelle as a monkey/ape with a banana, and effigies of Obama being lynched. They also seem to like to use his middle name to make some kind of point as well, though I think that, along with the birther stuff, is more about Islamophobia, which in my estimation is different than racism.
We already saw how the left and the mainstream media savaged Carson just for running and for being a part of team Trump
This idea that only conservatives have an issue with a Black president is fucking stupid. There would be a meltdown of epic proportions with a conservative Black president and it would be racist as fuck
And you know it
90% is the magic number. Dems go under that with the Black vote and they can't win a national election
“lol”
Try to keep up
Nothing hypothetical about it
And by the mainstream not some kooks that you can't even bother to link to
Even your hypothetical is a THUD. -
Sorry. I just didn't see it that way.RaceBannon said:IN other words
I'm right
And there was plenty of racist shit thrown at Carson using the criticism of Obama was racist standard
I like how folks just throw out this alleged seething cauldron of rednecks who hated the idea of a Black president
We also already showed how whitey got Obama elected twice
I don't recall many liberals doing racist shit to make their point about Carson.
I do recall many people (I'll play agnostic about their politics) throwing overtly racist shit at Obama.
Look, we can agree that Obama was a terrible president and conclude that he dealt with a lot of racism, because he did.
There was a seething cauldron of rednecks who hated a black president. There just was. I don't have a head count, but I know what I saw and read. Scoring it from a distance with as much information as you have, I'd guess it was fringe +.
Clearly and thankfully, not the mainstream.
You're conflating politics with racism too tightly. No bleeding heart liberal ever said, "that black son of a bitch Carson ought to get back to the cotton farm." Come on, you know that.
