#kanye at the white house

SFGbob

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Blacks who go R are regarded as house n____rs to many blacks and white SJW fags

No, no. That's just the way they let them know they are simply on the wrong team. Just ask Coug.

creepycoug

racism noun
rac·ism | \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \
Definition of racism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism
3 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Bob has really hung his hat on the pejorative use of Uncle Tom.

If you concede that Uncle Tom is now a racist term because of how it's used or intended to be used, what do you say if Black Person A tells Black Person B that his politics are fucked up because white establishment republicans don't have black people's best interests at heart? Is that racism? Or is A being political?

Similarly, was Kanye being racist when he said George Bush doesn't care about black people? Or was he being political?

Right or wrong in their assertion, Black Person A and Kanye are being political, not racist.

I think my friends like to use this racism shit when it's convenient for the - say, to support black conservatives - and tend to rail against it when it's not - say, to explain why black people tend to have worse outcomes with the police than white people.

RaceBannon

Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

This is the genesis of your confusion.

You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.

Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.

TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.

RaceBannon

Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more

Little shitwads like hondo get no slack

RaceBannon

I actually wrote that reply without seeing creep's post above but it fits

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more

Little shitwads like hondo get no slack

I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person or any member of an historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.

My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.

I also agree to an extend that white liberals telling black people how to vote are, at the very least, over-stepping some boundaries.

Dude61

creepycoug said:

Dude61 said:

The Left cares nothing about race or gender except as a weapon to attack their foes.

And this is unique to the left you think?

Everybody uses everybody in politics.

Welcome.

Ye is clearly a threat to the Democrats control of the black population. What is unique to the left is the level of hysteria we have witnessed over the last two years.

RaceBannon

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more

Little shitwads like hondo get no slack

I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person any historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.

My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.

I also agree to an extend that white liberals telling black people how to vote are, at the very least, over-stepping some boundaries.

I told you last week we almost agree on this

We're down to semanticals

SFGbob

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?

Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep

This is the genesis of your confusion.

You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.

Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.

TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.

If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.