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$39 billion bailout for industries affected by tariffs
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The Trump administration bailing out all the industries affected by the president’s escalating trade war could cost American taxpayers $39 billion, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s analysis.
https://www.axios.com/chamber-commerce-trump-trade-bailout-cost-38e6c946-4079-4628-af6c-b63d3d51380a.html
The Trump administration bailing out all the industries affected by the president’s escalating trade war could cost American taxpayers $39 billion, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s analysis.
https://www.axios.com/chamber-commerce-trump-trade-bailout-cost-38e6c946-4079-4628-af6c-b63d3d51380a.html
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We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.
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Is there a meme available demanding that we drug test these new welfare recipients?
Are there any leftover Obama phones we can send them?
Is there any trash along the highways in the Midwest that we could have them pick up to justify their welfare payments?
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How is Trump going to pay for this?
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I'm doing my part
How much do democrats want to raise taxes if they win?
After they restore their deductions for high state taxes and mega mortgages -
I’m waiting for my Mnuchin capital gains tax reduction before the 2018 election. Then the tax and mortgage interest reduction in 2019. MAGA!RaceBannon said:I'm doing my part
How much do democrats want to raise taxes if they win?
After they restore their deductions for high state taxes and mega mortgages -
We spend more than that. In 2013 we gave over 81 Bill to parents of anchor babies. I’m guessing that number is well over 100 Billion now. That’s the number that open border retards fail to acknowledge as they cry “but but illegals pay taxes and don’t get them back!!!!”2001400ex said:We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.
They get em back alright, about five fold, once they start pumping out kids. -
It's idiotic when people are always saying how raw of a deal they get.salemcoog said:
We spend more than that. In 2013 we gave over 81 Bill to parents of anchor babies. I’m guessing that number is well over 100 Billion now. That’s the number that open border retards fail to acknowledge as they cry “but but illegals pay taxes and don’t get them back!!!!”2001400ex said:We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.
They get em back alright, about five fold, once they start pumping out kids.
If it was that fucking shitty they wouldnt be coming in droves. -
Not sure. Waiting on OBK to inform me.RaceBannon said:I'm doing my part
How much do democrats want to raise taxes if they win?
After they restore their deductions for high state taxes and mega mortgages -
We? Lol.salemcoog said:
We spend more than that. In 2013 we gave over 81 Bill to parents of anchor babies. I’m guessing that number is well over 100 Billion now. That’s the number that open border retards fail to acknowledge as they cry “but but illegals pay taxes and don’t get them back!!!!”2001400ex said:We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.
They get em back alright, about five fold, once they start pumping out kids. -
He's dialed inSquirt said:
Not sure. Waiting on OBK to inform me.RaceBannon said:I'm doing my part
How much do democrats want to raise taxes if they win?
After they restore their deductions for high state taxes and mega mortgages -
Link?salemcoog said:
We spend more than that. In 2013 we gave over 81 Bill to parents of anchor babies. I’m guessing that number is well over 100 Billion now. That’s the number that open border retards fail to acknowledge as they cry “but but illegals pay taxes and don’t get them back!!!!”2001400ex said:We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.
They get em back alright, about five fold, once they start pumping out kids. -
CNN story in 2013. Look it up yourself buttfucker.2001400ex said:
Link?salemcoog said:
We spend more than that. In 2013 we gave over 81 Bill to parents of anchor babies. I’m guessing that number is well over 100 Billion now. That’s the number that open border retards fail to acknowledge as they cry “but but illegals pay taxes and don’t get them back!!!!”2001400ex said:We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.
They get em back alright, about five fold, once they start pumping out kids. -
Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
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Aunt Esther is on board. https://townhall.com/columnists/johndempsey/2018/07/31/maxine-waters-wants-to-nullify-your-tax-break-n2505426Squirt said:
Not sure. Waiting on OBK to inform me.RaceBannon said:I'm doing my part
How much do democrats want to raise taxes if they win?
After they restore their deductions for high state taxes and mega mortgages -
There won't be any tariffs after the EU is brought to heel (which is currently happening) and joins the US and our pet dog, Canada, in presenting a united front against China, forcing them to change their behavior because they don't have any other option. The OP can't see the big picture. He can't even see past his own belly.
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True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
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Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.” -
Neither Unions, Cesar Chavez, Donald trump or his federal government can impede or prevent the most efficient allocation of resources. It’s futile.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.” -
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.” -
No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.” -
To be fair, the government can if they have a monopoly on force. The Soviets certainly did.CirrhosisDawg said:
Neither Unions, Cesar Chavez, Donald trump or his federal government can impede or prevent the most efficient allocation of resources. It’s futile.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.” -
oregonblitzkrieg said:
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
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Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.MikeDamone said:
No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.” -
Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.MikeDamone said:
No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day. -
Maybe Mexico can pay to bail out the losses for all their citizens sucking up all the services, committing crimes and clogging our legal system and jails.
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You’re not referring to Mexicans....think darker and think legal citizens.Sledog said:Maybe Mexico can pay to bail out the losses for all their citizens sucking up all the services, committing crimes and clogging our legal system and jails.
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You're doing what creepycoug does, calling for open borders globalism then acting like the 'protectionists' want to stymie the free market. I bet you have a George Soros portrait hanging in your study too. Free markets for US citizens within US borders, where everyone is free to move about as they wish to exchange labor for pay. The rest of the world isn't our concern. The US is not a dumping ground for illegal labor. Foreigners have no right to 'make it here' when they can make it in their own countries. You're making the Cochsuckers proud in this thread.MikeDamone said:
Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.MikeDamone said:
No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day. -
Yeah...i have a George sorts portrait. You’re not a lover of liberty or the free market. That’s clear.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're doing what creepycoug does, calling for open borders globalism then acting like the 'protectionists' want to stymie the free market. I bet you have a George Soros portrait hanging in your study too. Free markets for US citizens within US borders, where everyone is free to move about as they wish to exchange labor for pay. The rest of the world isn't our concern. The US is not a dumping ground for illegal labor. Foreigners have no right to 'make it here' when they can make it in their own countries. You're making the Cochsuckers proud in this thread.MikeDamone said:
Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.MikeDamone said:
No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
I care about freedom, liberty, property rights, self ownership, free markets and peace. You care about government oppession of those things and using force of the government to enforce your beliefs. I’m starting to think you and Soros have a lot in common as authoritarian assholes.
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/29/midterms-billionaire-koch-brothers-threaten-to-support-democrats-pushing-open-borders-free-trade/ -
It's not that simple...MikeDamone said:
Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.MikeDamone said:
No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
We aren't talking about just agricultural and farming. Illegal immigrants also drive down wages in the construction field. Your remodelers, roofers, framers, painters, plumbers, landscapers, tile layers, flat workers, are already negatively impacted. Illegals don't pay for licensing, insurance, bonding, etc. So they can outbid on any job they choose. They can also get scooped up by general contractors looking for cheap labor on subdivisions, or employed by specialty contractors because they can be employed on the cheap. This obviously isn't legal, but turning a blind eye will make this practice much more abundant.
