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Republicans vs. Democrats: The Presidents
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The biggest thing Reagan did was shake off the shit dust from the woe-is-me, we sucked in Vietnam, pansy ass Carter apologetic stance.
Between the Iran hostages release, kicking the Ruskies ass getting by Finland in the gold medal round then laying waste to Grenada (USA! USA! USA!), Reagan got 'Murica feeling good about itself again.
Obama had the opportunity but he pissed it away being an intellectual utopian and social justice dolt.
Ergo - Trump.
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You talked about mortgage rates you fucking moron2001400ex said:
You actually didn't address one of my comments. But thanks for showing your head is firmly planted up Reagan's ass.RaceBannon said:They were double digits when he was elected but still
And they went down
They didn't hit single until 1991
The Reagan recovery puts Obama to shame
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My colors are what they are, with or w/o your imprimatur, and I'm not asking to join any clubs here.RaceBannon said:
True colors revealedcreepycoug said:
In a word: _Leadership. They held office during difficult times, showed up, and helped. FDR is an absolute no-brainer. My God. What do you want?LebamDawg said:Jefferson and Adams were the best, Lincoln great, Eisenhower good, Teddy real good. LBJ and Nixon sucked. Carter always too high on any list.
Why does everyone have a love affair with FDR and JFK?
When I was a ute in the 60's FDR was still widely known as a socialist fuck up by real rock ribbed conservatives in Olympia and Aberdeen
People rippin Reagan in this thread despite the economic and cultural miracle of the 80's. FDR needed 12 years and a world war to fix the economy
Over rated clap clap clap clap clap
The difference between a card carrying paper hanger and an independent thinker is the ability to assess things dispassionately. The piece about Marx doesn't make me a Marxist, as should have been evident in my prose. It's just a discussion, and I was drafting behind Dick Posner, a conservative who is known to wander about on some issues.
Reagan was a good president because he respected markets and private property. It was a bad move to invite the fundies into the tent. What happened in the end was just biology and I don't hold it against him. I like him, but I don't pray to him.
I wouldn't want New Deal as a permanent fact of life in the U.S., but then again I didn't have to lead the country out of a depression. You were there; you know how bad it was. He thought he had to do something. And his qualitative leadership during the great war is unassailable. You can think what you want, but admiring FDR hardly makes anyone a liberal. Jesus. -
Your eyes are as good as mine. Well, maybe not now.RaceBannon said:Self quote?
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Wowcreepycoug said:
My colors are what they are, with or w/o your imprimatur, and I'm not asking to join any clubs here.RaceBannon said:
True colors revealedcreepycoug said:
In a word: _Leadership. They held office during difficult times, showed up, and helped. FDR is an absolute no-brainer. My God. What do you want?LebamDawg said:Jefferson and Adams were the best, Lincoln great, Eisenhower good, Teddy real good. LBJ and Nixon sucked. Carter always too high on any list.
Why does everyone have a love affair with FDR and JFK?
When I was a ute in the 60's FDR was still widely known as a socialist fuck up by real rock ribbed conservatives in Olympia and Aberdeen
People rippin Reagan in this thread despite the economic and cultural miracle of the 80's. FDR needed 12 years and a world war to fix the economy
Over rated clap clap clap clap clap
The difference between a card carrying paper hanger and an independent thinker is the ability to assess things dispassionately. The piece about Marx doesn't make me a Marxist, as should have been evident in my prose. It's just a discussion, and I was drafting behind Dick Posner, a man with solid conservative creds but who has wandered about on various issues.
Reagan was a good president in my eyes because he respected markets and private property. Reagan, as others have pointed out, was a bad president because he invited the fundies into the tent. What happened to him in the end was just a matter of biology and I don't hold it against him. I like him, but I don't pray to him.
The New Deal is not something I'd want to be a permanent fact of life in the U.S., but then again I didn't have to lead the country out of a depression. You were there; you know how bad it was. He thought he had to do something. And his qualitative leadership during the great war is unassailable. You can think what you want, but admiring FDR hardly makes anyone a liberal. Jesus.
I was waiting for your reply to point out that the massive Federal state we have now is most likely an UNINTENDED consequence of FDR's efforts to save the republic from actual socialists and communists
I've defended FDR myself despite an onslaught of Mike Damone down votes
What you missed, and maybe have a cup o joe, is that I was making fun of my own relatives on the 60's who called FDR a red.
I didn't vote for Reagan even though I had two chances to do so and even though @Dennis_DeYoung down voted me for pointing out some positives.
I'm in my club. Fuck the rest of you -
Right and in February of 1982 they peaked. And didn't get under double digits consistently until 1990. Which exactly showed me being correct.RaceBannon said:
You talked about mortgage rates you fucking moron2001400ex said:
You actually didn't address one of my comments. But thanks for showing your head is firmly planted up Reagan's ass.RaceBannon said:They were double digits when he was elected but still
And they went down
They didn't hit single until 1991
The Reagan recovery puts Obama to shame
freddiemac.com/pmms/pmms30.html
Thanks for playing. -
They were already there2001400ex said:
Right and in February of 1982 they peaked. And didn't get under double digits consistently until 1990. Which exactly showed me being correct.RaceBannon said:
You talked about mortgage rates you fucking moron2001400ex said:
You actually didn't address one of my comments. But thanks for showing your head is firmly planted up Reagan's ass.RaceBannon said:They were double digits when he was elected but still
And they went down
They didn't hit single until 1991
The Reagan recovery puts Obama to shame
freddiemac.com/pmms/pmms30.html
Thanks for playing.
So I did address your post
So you did lie again -
I said they were in double digits. Fuck Race it's like you are senile or some shit.RaceBannon said:
They were already there2001400ex said:
Right and in February of 1982 they peaked. And didn't get under double digits consistently until 1990. Which exactly showed me being correct.RaceBannon said:
You talked about mortgage rates you fucking moron2001400ex said:
You actually didn't address one of my comments. But thanks for showing your head is firmly planted up Reagan's ass.RaceBannon said:They were double digits when he was elected but still
And they went down
They didn't hit single until 1991
The Reagan recovery puts Obama to shame
freddiemac.com/pmms/pmms30.html
Thanks for playing.
So I did address your post
So you did lie again -
And I addressed that
I like to call me senile when you are the idiot that can't follow a thread -
Race has always been right on this one- i.e., FDR and saving the Republic from radicals. The New Deal didn't end the depression; Hitler and Tojo made that possible. Military spending is the greatest Keynesian stimulus of them all. But his brilliance as a politician was making the common man feel like we were "doing something".RaceBannon said:
Wowcreepycoug said:
My colors are what they are, with or w/o your imprimatur, and I'm not asking to join any clubs here.RaceBannon said:
True colors revealedcreepycoug said:
In a word: _Leadership. They held office during difficult times, showed up, and helped. FDR is an absolute no-brainer. My God. What do you want?LebamDawg said:Jefferson and Adams were the best, Lincoln great, Eisenhower good, Teddy real good. LBJ and Nixon sucked. Carter always too high on any list.
Why does everyone have a love affair with FDR and JFK?
When I was a ute in the 60's FDR was still widely known as a socialist fuck up by real rock ribbed conservatives in Olympia and Aberdeen
People rippin Reagan in this thread despite the economic and cultural miracle of the 80's. FDR needed 12 years and a world war to fix the economy
Over rated clap clap clap clap clap
The difference between a card carrying paper hanger and an independent thinker is the ability to assess things dispassionately. The piece about Marx doesn't make me a Marxist, as should have been evident in my prose. It's just a discussion, and I was drafting behind Dick Posner, a man with solid conservative creds but who has wandered about on various issues.
Reagan was a good president in my eyes because he respected markets and private property. Reagan, as others have pointed out, was a bad president because he invited the fundies into the tent. What happened to him in the end was just a matter of biology and I don't hold it against him. I like him, but I don't pray to him.
The New Deal is not something I'd want to be a permanent fact of life in the U.S., but then again I didn't have to lead the country out of a depression. You were there; you know how bad it was. He thought he had to do something. And his qualitative leadership during the great war is unassailable. You can think what you want, but admiring FDR hardly makes anyone a liberal. Jesus.
I was waiting for your reply to point out that the massive Federal state we have now is most likely an UNINTENDED consequence of FDR's efforts to save the republic from actual socialists and communists
I've defended FDR myself despite an onslaught of Mike Damone down votes
What you missed, and maybe have a cup o joe, is that I was making fun of my own relatives on the 60's who called FDR a red.
I didn't vote for Reagan even though I had two chances to do so and even though @Dennis_DeYoung down voted me for pointing out some positives.
I'm in my club. Fuck the rest of you
Fun fact: some of that "doing something" - e.g., Bonneville and Grand Coulee Dams - enabled us? to win WWII years a head of schedule. Takes a shit ton of juice to make aluminum and plutonium and of the warring powers we? were the only ones who had an ample amount of spare cheap electricity.
