1) Lincoln 2) Worshtington 3) Teddy 4) FDR 5) Jefferson 6) Adams 7) Jackson 8) Reagan 9) Truman 10) LBJ
Reagan? lol
Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?
FFS.
The fuck? You sound like some crotchety, ivory tower, lefty academic type with this nonsense. Reagan got 2 of the top 4 wins by a President of the past 50 years- i.e., ending stagflation and winning the Cold War (the other 2 are LBJs Civil Rights legislation and Nixon opening China and splitting them off from the Soviets). Yeah, the fundies sucked - and you know I hate them as much as any man here - but wins are wins and the history on this is clear.
Reagan did a lot of great things, including being an inspirational leader. The country needed him at that time, someone strong to provide stability. And for that he succeeded.
I do chuckle tho when people romanticize his presidency and forget that the national debt exploded under him, mortgage interest rates were well into the double digits, the way the war on drugs was carried out was lame, and the divide between wealthy and poor exploded under him.
Riiiiiiiight. The peanut farmer before him had nothing to do with any of that.
Mortgage rates didn't drop under 10% consistently until 1990, did he need more tim? Those are all his direct policies. Thanks for playing "blame the guy behind me except when Obama is president".
Shit on Reagan's policies all you want, fact remains that he was one of, if not the best leaders we had in the entire century. When you're the President you damn well better lead, and he was phenomenal.
That's exactly what I said on my first post about Reagan. He is the leader we needed at that time. Then I shit on some of his FS policies and the people who romanticize Reagan chimed in all butthurt.
1) Lincoln 2) Worshtington 3) Teddy 4) FDR 5) Jefferson 6) Adams 7) Jackson 8) Reagan 9) Truman 10) LBJ
Reagan? lol
Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?
FFS.
The fuck? You sound like some crotchety, ivory tower, lefty academic type with this nonsense. Reagan got 2 of the top 4 wins by a President of the past 50 years- i.e., ending stagflation and winning the Cold War (the other 2 are LBJs Civil Rights legislation and Nixon opening China and splitting them off from the Soviets). Yeah, the fundies sucked - and you know I hate them as much as any man here - but wins are wins and the history on this is clear.
Reagan did a lot of great things, including being an inspirational leader. The country needed him at that time, someone strong to provide stability. And for that he succeeded.
I do chuckle tho when people romanticize his presidency and forget that the national debt exploded under him, mortgage interest rates were well into the double digits, the way the war on drugs was carried out was lame, and the divide between wealthy and poor exploded under him.
Riiiiiiiight. The peanut farmer before him had nothing to do with any of that.
Mortgage rates didn't drop under 10% consistently until 1990, did he need more tim? Those are all his direct policies. Thanks for playing "blame the guy behind me except when Obama is president".
Mortgage rates:
Jan 77 = 8.72% Jan 81 = 14.90% 71% increase while Jimmah Cahtuh was president
Jan 81 = 14.90% Jan 89 = 10.73% 28% decrease while Reagan was president
1) Lincoln 2) Worshtington 3) Teddy 4) FDR 5) Jefferson 6) Adams 7) Jackson 8) Reagan 9) Truman 10) LBJ
Reagan? lol
Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?
FFS.
The fuck? You sound like some crotchety, ivory tower, lefty academic type with this nonsense. Reagan got 2 of the top 4 wins by a President of the past 50 years- i.e., ending stagflation and winning the Cold War (the other 2 are LBJs Civil Rights legislation and Nixon opening China and splitting them off from the Soviets). Yeah, the fundies sucked - and you know I hate them as much as any man here - but wins are wins and the history on this is clear.
Reagan did a lot of great things, including being an inspirational leader. The country needed him at that time, someone strong to provide stability. And for that he succeeded.
I do chuckle tho when people romanticize his presidency and forget that the national debt exploded under him, mortgage interest rates were well into the double digits, the way the war on drugs was carried out was lame, and the divide between wealthy and poor exploded under him.
Riiiiiiiight. The peanut farmer before him had nothing to do with any of that.
Mortgage rates didn't drop under 10% consistently until 1990, did he need more tim? Those are all his direct policies. Thanks for playing "blame the guy behind me except when Obama is president".
Mortgage rates:
Jan 77 = 8.72% Jan 81 = 14.90% 71% increase while Jimmah Cahtuh was president
Jan 81 = 14.90% Jan 89 = 10.73% 28% decrease while Reagan was president
Source: FreddieMac.com
Explain where I was wrong? Jimmy Carter presidency was marred with high inflation and shitty policy to increase interest rates. Reagan continued that for years.
The problem was in the 70s, inflation was spurred by high fuel prices and not because of high demand. Making high interest rates shitty monetary policy. As a result we had a recession near the end of Carter and another one a year into Reagan.
1) Lincoln 2) Worshtington 3) Teddy 4) FDR 5) Jefferson 6) Adams 7) Jackson 8) Reagan 9) Truman 10) LBJ
Reagan? lol
Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?
FFS.
The fuck? You sound like some crotchety, ivory tower, lefty academic type with this nonsense. Reagan got 2 of the top 4 wins by a President of the past 50 years- i.e., ending stagflation and winning the Cold War (the other 2 are LBJs Civil Rights legislation and Nixon opening China and splitting them off from the Soviets). Yeah, the fundies sucked - and you know I hate them as much as any man here - but wins are wins and the history on this is clear.
Reagan did a lot of great things, including being an inspirational leader. The country needed him at that time, someone strong to provide stability. And for that he succeeded.
I do chuckle tho when people romanticize his presidency and forget that the national debt exploded under him, mortgage interest rates were well into the double digits, the way the war on drugs was carried out was lame, and the divide between wealthy and poor exploded under him.
Riiiiiiiight. The peanut farmer before him had nothing to do with any of that.
Mortgage rates didn't drop under 10% consistently until 1990, did he need more tim? Those are all his direct policies. Thanks for playing "blame the guy behind me except when Obama is president".
Mortgage rates:
Jan 77 = 8.72% Jan 81 = 14.90% 71% increase while Jimmah Cahtuh was president
Jan 81 = 14.90% Jan 89 = 10.73% 28% decrease while Reagan was president
Source: FreddieMac.com
Explain where I was wrong? Jimmy Carter presidency was marred with high inflation and shitty policy to increase interest rates. Reagan continued that for years.
The problem was in the 70s, inflation was spurred by high fuel prices and not because of high demand. Making high interest rates shitty monetary policy. As a result we had a recession near the end of Carter and another one a year into Reagan.
1) Lincoln 2) Worshtington 3) Teddy 4) FDR 5) Jefferson 6) Adams 7) Jackson 8) Reagan 9) Truman 10) LBJ
Reagan? lol
Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?
FFS.
The fuck? You sound like some crotchety, ivory tower, lefty academic type with this nonsense. Reagan got 2 of the top 4 wins by a President of the past 50 years- i.e., ending stagflation and winning the Cold War (the other 2 are LBJs Civil Rights legislation and Nixon opening China and splitting them off from the Soviets). Yeah, the fundies sucked - and you know I hate them as much as any man here - but wins are wins and the history on this is clear.
Reagan did a lot of great things, including being an inspirational leader. The country needed him at that time, someone strong to provide stability. And for that he succeeded.
I do chuckle tho when people romanticize his presidency and forget that the national debt exploded under him, mortgage interest rates were well into the double digits, the way the war on drugs was carried out was lame, and the divide between wealthy and poor exploded under him.
Riiiiiiiight. The peanut farmer before him had nothing to do with any of that.
Mortgage rates didn't drop under 10% consistently until 1990, did he need more tim? Those are all his direct policies. Thanks for playing "blame the guy behind me except when Obama is president".
Mortgage rates:
Jan 77 = 8.72% Jan 81 = 14.90% 71% increase while Jimmah Cahtuh was president
Jan 81 = 14.90% Jan 89 = 10.73% 28% decrease while Reagan was president
Source: FreddieMac.com
Explain where I was wrong? Jimmy Carter presidency was marred with high inflation and shitty policy to increase interest rates. Reagan continued that for years.
The problem was in the 70s, inflation was spurred by high fuel prices and not because of high demand. Making high interest rates shitty monetary policy. As a result we had a recession near the end of Carter and another one a year into Reagan.
You were born wrong.
Second grade called and wants their comeback back.
1) Lincoln 2) Worshtington 3) Teddy 4) FDR 5) Jefferson 6) Adams 7) Jackson 8) Reagan 9) Truman 10) LBJ
Reagan? lol
Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?
FFS.
The fuck? You sound like some crotchety, ivory tower, lefty academic type with this nonsense. Reagan got 2 of the top 4 wins by a President of the past 50 years- i.e., ending stagflation and winning the Cold War (the other 2 are LBJs Civil Rights legislation and Nixon opening China and splitting them off from the Soviets). Yeah, the fundies sucked - and you know I hate them as much as any man here - but wins are wins and the history on this is clear.
Reagan did a lot of great things, including being an inspirational leader. The country needed him at that time, someone strong to provide stability. And for that he succeeded.
I do chuckle tho when people romanticize his presidency and forget that the national debt exploded under him, mortgage interest rates were well into the double digits, the way the war on drugs was carried out was lame, and the divide between wealthy and poor exploded under him.
Riiiiiiiight. The peanut farmer before him had nothing to do with any of that.
Mortgage rates didn't drop under 10% consistently until 1990, did he need more tim? Those are all his direct policies. Thanks for playing "blame the guy behind me except when Obama is president".
Mortgage rates:
Jan 77 = 8.72% Jan 81 = 14.90% 71% increase while Jimmah Cahtuh was president
Jan 81 = 14.90% Jan 89 = 10.73% 28% decrease while Reagan was president
Source: FreddieMac.com
Explain where I was wrong? Jimmy Carter presidency was marred with high inflation and shitty policy to increase interest rates. Reagan continued that for years.
The problem was in the 70s, inflation was spurred by high fuel prices and not because of high demand. Making high interest rates shitty monetary policy. As a result we had a recession near the end of Carter and another one a year into Reagan.
You were born wrong.
Second grade called and wants their comeback back.
Humanity called and wants to ensure you win a Darwin Award.
1) Lincoln 2) Worshtington 3) Teddy 4) FDR 5) Jefferson 6) Adams 7) Jackson 8) Reagan 9) Truman 10) LBJ
Reagan? lol
Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?
FFS.
The fuck? You sound like some crotchety, ivory tower, lefty academic type with this nonsense. Reagan got 2 of the top 4 wins by a President of the past 50 years- i.e., ending stagflation and winning the Cold War (the other 2 are LBJs Civil Rights legislation and Nixon opening China and splitting them off from the Soviets). Yeah, the fundies sucked - and you know I hate them as much as any man here - but wins are wins and the history on this is clear.
Reagan did a lot of great things, including being an inspirational leader. The country needed him at that time, someone strong to provide stability. And for that he succeeded.
I do chuckle tho when people romanticize his presidency and forget that the national debt exploded under him, mortgage interest rates were well into the double digits, the way the war on drugs was carried out was lame, and the divide between wealthy and poor exploded under him.
Riiiiiiiight. The peanut farmer before him had nothing to do with any of that.
Mortgage rates didn't drop under 10% consistently until 1990, did he need more tim? Those are all his direct policies. Thanks for playing "blame the guy behind me except when Obama is president".
Mortgage rates:
Jan 77 = 8.72% Jan 81 = 14.90% 71% increase while Jimmah Cahtuh was president
Jan 81 = 14.90% Jan 89 = 10.73% 28% decrease while Reagan was president
Source: FreddieMac.com
Explain where I was wrong? Jimmy Carter presidency was marred with high inflation and shitty policy to increase interest rates. Reagan continued that for years.
The problem was in the 70s, inflation was spurred by high fuel prices and not because of high demand. Making high interest rates shitty monetary policy. As a result we had a recession near the end of Carter and another one a year into Reagan.
You were born wrong.
Second grade called and wants their comeback back.
1) Lincoln 2) Worshtington 3) Teddy 4) FDR 5) Jefferson 6) Adams 7) Jackson 8) Reagan 9) Truman 10) LBJ
Reagan? lol
Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?
FFS.
The fuck? You sound like some crotchety, ivory tower, lefty academic type with this nonsense. Reagan got 2 of the top 4 wins by a President of the past 50 years- i.e., ending stagflation and winning the Cold War (the other 2 are LBJs Civil Rights legislation and Nixon opening China and splitting them off from the Soviets). Yeah, the fundies sucked - and you know I hate them as much as any man here - but wins are wins and the history on this is clear.
Reagan did a lot of great things, including being an inspirational leader. The country needed him at that time, someone strong to provide stability. And for that he succeeded.
I do chuckle tho when people romanticize his presidency and forget that the national debt exploded under him, mortgage interest rates were well into the double digits, the way the war on drugs was carried out was lame, and the divide between wealthy and poor exploded under him.
Riiiiiiiight. The peanut farmer before him had nothing to do with any of that.
Mortgage rates didn't drop under 10% consistently until 1990, did he need more tim? Those are all his direct policies. Thanks for playing "blame the guy behind me except when Obama is president".
Mortgage rates:
Jan 77 = 8.72% Jan 81 = 14.90% 71% increase while Jimmah Cahtuh was president
Jan 81 = 14.90% Jan 89 = 10.73% 28% decrease while Reagan was president
Source: FreddieMac.com
Explain where I was wrong? Jimmy Carter presidency was marred with high inflation and shitty policy to increase interest rates. Reagan continued that for years.
The problem was in the 70s, inflation was spurred by high fuel prices and not because of high demand. Making high interest rates shitty monetary policy. As a result we had a recession near the end of Carter and another one a year into Reagan.
You were born wrong.
Second grade called and wants their comeback back.
Jefferson and Adams were the best, Lincoln great, Eisenhower good, Teddy real good. LBJ and Nixon sucked. Carter always too high on any list.
Why does everyone have a love affair with FDR and JFK?
In a word: _Leadership. They held office during difficult times, showed up, and helped. FDR is an absolute no-brainer. My God. What do you want?
True colors revealed
When I was a ute in the 60's FDR was still widely known as a socialist fuck up by real rock ribbed conservatives in Olympia and Aberdeen
People rippin Reagan in this thread despite the economic and cultural miracle of the 80's. FDR needed 12 years and a world war to fix the economy
Over rated clap clap clap clap clap
My colors are what they are, with or w/o your imprimatur, and I'm not asking to join any clubs here.
The difference between a card carrying paper hanger and an independent thinker is the ability to assess things dispassionately. The piece about Marx doesn't make me a Marxist, as should have been evident in my prose. It's just a discussion, and I was drafting behind Dick Posner, a man with solid conservative creds but who has wandered about on various issues.
Reagan was a good president in my eyes because he respected markets and private property. Reagan, as others have pointed out, was a bad president because he invited the fundies into the tent. What happened to him in the end was just a matter of biology and I don't hold it against him. I like him, but I don't pray to him.
The New Deal is not something I'd want to be a permanent fact of life in the U.S., but then again I didn't have to lead the country out of a depression. You were there; you know how bad it was. He thought he had to do something. And his qualitative leadership during the great war is unassailable. You can think what you want, but admiring FDR hardly makes anyone a liberal. Jesus.
Wow
I was waiting for your reply to point out that the massive Federal state we have now is most likely an UNINTENDED consequence of FDR's efforts to save the republic from actual socialists and communists
I've defended FDR myself despite an onslaught of Mike Damone down votes
What you missed, and maybe have a cup o joe, is that I was making fun of my own relatives on the 60's who called FDR a red.
I didn't vote for Reagan even though I had two chances to do so and even though @Dennis_DeYoung down voted me for pointing out some positives.
I'm in my club. Fuck the rest of you
I remember @RaceBannon 's defending FDR phase before the classical libs cool kids got a hold of him.
Jefferson and Adams were the best, Lincoln great, Eisenhower good, Teddy real good. LBJ and Nixon sucked. Carter always too high on any list.
Why does everyone have a love affair with FDR and JFK?
In a word: _Leadership. They held office during difficult times, showed up, and helped. FDR is an absolute no-brainer. My God. What do you want?
True colors revealed
When I was a ute in the 60's FDR was still widely known as a socialist fuck up by real rock ribbed conservatives in Olympia and Aberdeen
People rippin Reagan in this thread despite the economic and cultural miracle of the 80's. FDR needed 12 years and a world war to fix the economy
Over rated clap clap clap clap clap
My colors are what they are, with or w/o your imprimatur, and I'm not asking to join any clubs here.
The difference between a card carrying paper hanger and an independent thinker is the ability to assess things dispassionately. The piece about Marx doesn't make me a Marxist, as should have been evident in my prose. It's just a discussion, and I was drafting behind Dick Posner, a man with solid conservative creds but who has wandered about on various issues.
Reagan was a good president in my eyes because he respected markets and private property. Reagan, as others have pointed out, was a bad president because he invited the fundies into the tent. What happened to him in the end was just a matter of biology and I don't hold it against him. I like him, but I don't pray to him.
The New Deal is not something I'd want to be a permanent fact of life in the U.S., but then again I didn't have to lead the country out of a depression. You were there; you know how bad it was. He thought he had to do something. And his qualitative leadership during the great war is unassailable. You can think what you want, but admiring FDR hardly makes anyone a liberal. Jesus.
Wow
I was waiting for your reply to point out that the massive Federal state we have now is most likely an UNINTENDED consequence of FDR's efforts to save the republic from actual socialists and communists
I've defended FDR myself despite an onslaught of Mike Damone down votes
What you missed, and maybe have a cup o joe, is that I was making fun of my own relatives on the 60's who called FDR a red.
I didn't vote for Reagan even though I had two chances to do so and even though @Dennis_DeYoung down voted me for pointing out some positives.
I'm in my club. Fuck the rest of you
I remember @RaceBannon 's defending FDR phase before the classical libs cool kids got a hold of him.
Jefferson and Adams were the best, Lincoln great, Eisenhower good, Teddy real good. LBJ and Nixon sucked. Carter always too high on any list.
Why does everyone have a love affair with FDR and JFK?
In a word: _Leadership. They held office during difficult times, showed up, and helped. FDR is an absolute no-brainer. My God. What do you want?
True colors revealed
When I was a ute in the 60's FDR was still widely known as a socialist fuck up by real rock ribbed conservatives in Olympia and Aberdeen
People rippin Reagan in this thread despite the economic and cultural miracle of the 80's. FDR needed 12 years and a world war to fix the economy
Over rated clap clap clap clap clap
My colors are what they are, with or w/o your imprimatur, and I'm not asking to join any clubs here.
The difference between a card carrying paper hanger and an independent thinker is the ability to assess things dispassionately. The piece about Marx doesn't make me a Marxist, as should have been evident in my prose. It's just a discussion, and I was drafting behind Dick Posner, a man with solid conservative creds but who has wandered about on various issues.
Reagan was a good president in my eyes because he respected markets and private property. Reagan, as others have pointed out, was a bad president because he invited the fundies into the tent. What happened to him in the end was just a matter of biology and I don't hold it against him. I like him, but I don't pray to him.
The New Deal is not something I'd want to be a permanent fact of life in the U.S., but then again I didn't have to lead the country out of a depression. You were there; you know how bad it was. He thought he had to do something. And his qualitative leadership during the great war is unassailable. You can think what you want, but admiring FDR hardly makes anyone a liberal. Jesus.
Wow
I was waiting for your reply to point out that the massive Federal state we have now is most likely an UNINTENDED consequence of FDR's efforts to save the republic from actual socialists and communists
I've defended FDR myself despite an onslaught of Mike Damone down votes
What you missed, and maybe have a cup o joe, is that I was making fun of my own relatives on the 60's who called FDR a red.
I didn't vote for Reagan even though I had two chances to do so and even though @Dennis_DeYoung down voted me for pointing out some positives.
I'm in my club. Fuck the rest of you
I remember @RaceBannon 's defending FDR phase before the classical libs cool kids got a hold of him.
You've gone way over in defending him
I acknowledged we did need to do something to stop the red menace
What I said today was he was an anti semite and his policies on economics were failures
And now the scourge of socialism is BACK and alleged conservatives are still sympathetic
Once you give the left an inch the problem never gets solved, it just needs more government power. FDR was part of this problem
You think too black and white. I live in the grey with the classic intellectuals
Jefferson and Adams were the best, Lincoln great, Eisenhower good, Teddy real good. LBJ and Nixon sucked. Carter always too high on any list.
Why does everyone have a love affair with FDR and JFK?
In a word: _Leadership. They held office during difficult times, showed up, and helped. FDR is an absolute no-brainer. My God. What do you want?
True colors revealed
When I was a ute in the 60's FDR was still widely known as a socialist fuck up by real rock ribbed conservatives in Olympia and Aberdeen
People rippin Reagan in this thread despite the economic and cultural miracle of the 80's. FDR needed 12 years and a world war to fix the economy
Over rated clap clap clap clap clap
My colors are what they are, with or w/o your imprimatur, and I'm not asking to join any clubs here.
The difference between a card carrying paper hanger and an independent thinker is the ability to assess things dispassionately. The piece about Marx doesn't make me a Marxist, as should have been evident in my prose. It's just a discussion, and I was drafting behind Dick Posner, a man with solid conservative creds but who has wandered about on various issues.
Reagan was a good president in my eyes because he respected markets and private property. Reagan, as others have pointed out, was a bad president because he invited the fundies into the tent. What happened to him in the end was just a matter of biology and I don't hold it against him. I like him, but I don't pray to him.
The New Deal is not something I'd want to be a permanent fact of life in the U.S., but then again I didn't have to lead the country out of a depression. You were there; you know how bad it was. He thought he had to do something. And his qualitative leadership during the great war is unassailable. You can think what you want, but admiring FDR hardly makes anyone a liberal. Jesus.
Wow
I was waiting for your reply to point out that the massive Federal state we have now is most likely an UNINTENDED consequence of FDR's efforts to save the republic from actual socialists and communists
I've defended FDR myself despite an onslaught of Mike Damone down votes
What you missed, and maybe have a cup o joe, is that I was making fun of my own relatives on the 60's who called FDR a red.
I didn't vote for Reagan even though I had two chances to do so and even though @Dennis_DeYoung down voted me for pointing out some positives.
I'm in my club. Fuck the rest of you
I remember @RaceBannon 's defending FDR phase before the classical libs cool kids got a hold of him.
You've gone way over in defending him
I acknowledged we did need to do something to stop the red menace
What I said today was he was an anti semite and his policies on economics were failures
And now the scourge of socialism is BACK and alleged conservatives are still sympathetic
Once you give the left an inch the problem never gets solved, it just needs more government power. FDR was part of this problem
You think too black and white. I live in the grey with the classic intellectuals
Comments
Except Hondo. Fuck that guy.
Jan 77 = 8.72%
Jan 81 = 14.90%
71% increase while Jimmah Cahtuh was president
Jan 81 = 14.90%
Jan 89 = 10.73%
28% decrease while Reagan was president
Source: FreddieMac.com
The problem was in the 70s, inflation was spurred by high fuel prices and not because of high demand. Making high interest rates shitty monetary policy. As a result we had a recession near the end of Carter and another one a year into Reagan.
Big hitter, G Ford.
I acknowledged we did need to do something to stop the red menace
What I said today was he was an anti semite and his policies on economics were failures
And now the scourge of socialism is BACK and alleged conservatives are still sympathetic
Once you give the left an inch the problem never gets solved, it just needs more government power. FDR was part of this problem
You think too black and white. I live in the grey with the classic intellectuals