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Republicans vs. Democrats: The Presidents

Swaye
Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
GOP comes out of the gate swinging with the number 1 President of all time, and it is undisputed...Honest Abe Lincoln. They back this strong play up with Teddy Roosevelt (4), best known for charging hills, killing mother fuckers who wanted to fuck with us, and carrying a big ass stick. Eisenhower (8) checks in bigly, by winning the war in Europe, and The Gipper (16 but is coming on strong the further we get away from his time in office)! GOP is really cooking with steam at the top.

When Republicans go bad though, they go fucking terrible: Harding (42), Grant (36), Hoover (34) and Nixon (33) - a murderers row of imbeciles and crooks.

DNC throws their heavyweights in first, FDR, widely regarded as the number 2 man of all time, behind Abe. They follow that up with a guy who rates well historically, Harry Truman (6), but is best known for barbequeing a couple hundred thousand Japs with nukes. Next is Woodrow Wilson (07), whose signature accomplishment is giving us the precursor to the UN, the most ineffectual organization in the history of mankind, besides the UW Football AD circa 1994-2012. Andrew Jackson (9) rates favorably, but was actually a huge piece of shit who murdered thousands of Indians. The DNC rounds out the top 10 with JFK, who was a much better fucker of women who were not his wife, than a President, but I respect anyone who banged out Norma Jean.

DNC counters Nixon with Bill Clinton (18), who rates much higher than Nixon but only because society values corruption now. They also feature their own murders row of total losers: Buchanon (43), Pierce (40) and Andrew Johnson (41).

All in all a pretty even list. Piles of low rent losers on both sides, but at the top the DNC features 5 of the top 10, and the GOP only has 3. That said, Lincoln is in a class by himself, and really all the DNC top dogs except FDR are most know for doing horrific shit or fucking hot movie stars.

Edge: GOP.

Yes, Wikipedia was my source. Suck it bitches.


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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

    Sadly the DNC will "rank" much higher (ranking was done by historians and other faggy libs though so go figure) than the GOP. Kennedy is already 10, fucking Johnson! is 13! Carter is low but I can't recall how low, and Clinton is 18 with Obama at 11 (already which is laughable).

    GOP has Nixon (33), Ford (something low and terrible), Reagan (16), and both Bushes who are low rated. Trump is currently 44, dead last, but they always say you can't view a Presidency in their own time.

    Bigly point: DNC will "rate" much higher in the aggregate, but then again, academic elites and such are doing the ratings. So, what do you expect? I'll just use NRA politician rankings from here on out.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    Where's the link with the rankings?
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Where's the link with the rankings?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

    Think it's fake news though since political scientists, historians, and other leftist academic types do the rankings. Still interesting. I always love these lists because then I remember nobody even know who half the Presidents were or what they did.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,681 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

    Sadly the DNC will "rank" much higher (ranking was done by historians and other faggy libs though so go figure) than the GOP. Kennedy is already 10, fucking Johnson! is 13! Carter is low but I can't recall how low, and Clinton is 18 with Obama at 11 (already which is laughable).

    GOP has Nixon (33), Ford (something low and terrible), Reagan (16), and both Bushes who are low rated. Trump is currently 44, dead last, but they always say you can't view a Presidency in their own time.

    Bigly point: DNC will "rate" much higher in the aggregate, but then again, academic elites and such are doing the ratings. So, what do you expect? I'll just use NRA politician rankings from here on out.
    Faggy libs are gonna faggy lib.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Swaye said:

    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

    Sadly the DNC will "rank" much higher (ranking was done by historians and other faggy libs though so go figure) than the GOP. Kennedy is already 10, fucking Johnson! is 13! Carter is low but I can't recall how low, and Clinton is 18 with Obama at 11 (already which is laughable).

    GOP has Nixon (33), Ford (something low and terrible), Reagan (16), and both Bushes who are low rated. Trump is currently 44, dead last, but they always say you can't view a Presidency in their own time.

    Bigly point: DNC will "rate" much higher in the aggregate, but then again, academic elites and such are doing the ratings. So, what do you expect? I'll just use NRA politician rankings from here on out.
    Faggy libs are gonna faggy lib.
    Said the guy who thinks Lexington Green is in Maryland.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Where's the link with the rankings?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

    Think it's fake news though since political scientists, historians, and other leftist academic types do the rankings. Still interesting. I always love these lists because then I remember nobody even know who half the Presidents were or what they did.
    Adams is critically underrated in IMHO. He's top 10 in the YellowSnow power rankings.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    Swaye said:

    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

    Sadly the DNC will "rank" much higher (ranking was done by historians and other faggy libs though so go figure) than the GOP. Kennedy is already 10, fucking Johnson! is 13! Carter is low but I can't recall how low, and Clinton is 18 with Obama at 11 (already which is laughable).

    GOP has Nixon (33), Ford (something low and terrible), Reagan (16), and both Bushes who are low rated. Trump is currently 44, dead last, but they always say you can't view a Presidency in their own time.

    Bigly point: DNC will "rate" much higher in the aggregate, but then again, academic elites and such are doing the ratings. So, what do you expect? I'll just use NRA politician rankings from here on out.
    Faggy libs are gonna faggy lib.
    Said the guy who thinks Lexington Green is in Maryland.
    Sounds like you can't handle the ups and downs of colony borders
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    Swaye said:

    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

    Sadly the DNC will "rank" much higher (ranking was done by historians and other faggy libs though so go figure) than the GOP. Kennedy is already 10, fucking Johnson! is 13! Carter is low but I can't recall how low, and Clinton is 18 with Obama at 11 (already which is laughable).

    GOP has Nixon (33), Ford (something low and terrible), Reagan (16), and both Bushes who are low rated. Trump is currently 44, dead last, but they always say you can't view a Presidency in their own time.

    Bigly point: DNC will "rate" much higher in the aggregate, but then again, academic elites and such are doing the ratings. So, what do you expect? I'll just use NRA politician rankings from here on out.
    Faggy libs are gonna faggy lib.
    Said the guy who thinks Lexington Green is in Maryland.
    Sounds like you can't handle the ups and downs of colony borders
    I would have accepted Rhode Island or New Hampshire but cannot abide Maryland.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Woodrow Wilson way the fuck too high.

    Otherwise, I don't hate it.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Swaye said:

    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

    Sadly the DNC will "rank" much higher (ranking was done by historians and other faggy libs though so go figure) than the GOP. Kennedy is already 10, fucking Johnson! is 13! Carter is low but I can't recall how low, and Clinton is 18 with Obama at 11 (already which is laughable).

    GOP has Nixon (33), Ford (something low and terrible), Reagan (16), and both Bushes who are low rated. Trump is currently 44, dead last, but they always say you can't view a Presidency in their own time.

    Bigly point: DNC will "rate" much higher in the aggregate, but then again, academic elites and such are doing the ratings. So, what do you expect? I'll just use NRA politician rankings from here on out.
    Faggy libs are gonna faggy lib.
    Said the guy who thinks Lexington Green is in Maryland.
    Said the guy who thinks who is where? I'm completely lost.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,017
    Swaye said:

    GOP comes out of the gate swinging with the number 1 President of all time, and it is undisputed...Honest Abe Lincoln. They back this strong play up with Teddy Roosevelt (4), best known for charging hills, killing mother fuckers who wanted to fuck with us, and carrying a big ass stick. Eisenhower (8) checks in bigly, by winning the war in Europe, and The Gipper (16 but is coming on strong the further we get away from his time in office)! GOP is really cooking with steam at the top.

    When Republicans go bad though, they go fucking terrible: Harding (42), Grant (36), Hoover (34) and Nixon (33) - a murderers row of imbeciles and crooks.

    DNC throws their heavyweights in first, FDR, widely regarded as the number 2 man of all time, behind Abe. They follow that up with a guy who rates well historically, Harry Truman (6), but is best known for barbequeing a couple hundred thousand Japs with nukes. Next is Woodrow Wilson (07), whose signature accomplishment is giving us the precursor to the UN, the most ineffectual organization in the history of mankind, besides the UW Football AD circa 1994-2012. Andrew Jackson (9) rates favorably, but was actually a huge piece of shit who murdered thousands of Indians. The DNC rounds out the top 10 with JFK, who was a much better fucker of women who were not his wife, than a President, but I respect anyone who banged out Norma Jean.

    DNC counters Nixon with Bill Clinton (18), who rates much higher than Nixon but only because society values corruption now. They also feature their own murders row of total losers: Buchanon (43), Pierce (40) and Andrew Johnson (41).

    All in all a pretty even list. Piles of low rent losers on both sides, but at the top the DNC features 5 of the top 10, and the GOP only has 3. That said, Lincoln is in a class by himself, and really all the DNC top dogs except FDR are most know for doing horrific shit or fucking hot movie stars.

    Edge: GOP.

    Yes, Wikipedia was my source. Suck it bitches.


    Was that wrong? I just, I don't know ...
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,681 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Swaye said:

    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

    Sadly the DNC will "rank" much higher (ranking was done by historians and other faggy libs though so go figure) than the GOP. Kennedy is already 10, fucking Johnson! is 13! Carter is low but I can't recall how low, and Clinton is 18 with Obama at 11 (already which is laughable).

    GOP has Nixon (33), Ford (something low and terrible), Reagan (16), and both Bushes who are low rated. Trump is currently 44, dead last, but they always say you can't view a Presidency in their own time.

    Bigly point: DNC will "rate" much higher in the aggregate, but then again, academic elites and such are doing the ratings. So, what do you expect? I'll just use NRA politician rankings from here on out.
    Faggy libs are gonna faggy lib.
    Said the guy who thinks Lexington Green is in Maryland.
    No I don't. Got you to read it though. MD is where there is wide spread defiance of their recently enacted "assault weapons" ban. HTH
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Sounds like the Dems need sark to bring them back to respectability
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    The Official YellowSnow POTUS Top 10

    1) Lincoln
    2) Worshtington
    3) Teddy
    4) FDR
    5) Jefferson
    6) Adams
    7) Jackson
    8) Reagan
    9) Truman
    10) LBJ

    Reagan was garbage
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,017
    salemcoog said:

    The Official YellowSnow POTUS Top 10

    1) Lincoln
    2) Worshtington
    3) Teddy
    4) FDR
    5) Jefferson
    6) Adams
    7) Jackson
    8) Reagan
    9) Truman
    10) LBJ

    Reagan was garbage
    He broke the Russians.


    For that alone he gets the at large bid.
    Another theory, which I'm somewhat persuaded by, is that their time was up sooner or later for organic reasons, not for Reagan reasons.

    The theory, which buys Marxism an "out", is this: they rushed into communism w/o going through a full stage of capitalism, which as we all know does wonders to eliminate scarcity. They hopped over capitalism from a feudal system and tried to make it work. The Communist Manifesto supports doing this. The German Ideaology and Das Kapital, do not.

    The doctrine of historical materialism and its prediction of a socialist utopia depends a great deal, or entirely, on the concept of technological advancement. You saw this expressed through Soviet Russia's near obsession with doing great public works. The idea is that, once you get to some magical place where technology can eliminate scarcity, people won't have to compete for their existence, and can instead go off and self-actualize, because I guess we call all just wander into these make-believe warehouses and get whatever we need whenever we want to. Whatever. Who's really to say what the world will look like in 1,000 years anyway.

    But the basic notion here would be that they tried central planning before they could pull it off. That, and they were surrounded by hostile interests who didn't trade with them and who cut them off economically, or tried to. In the end, the theory goes, Russia's failure was less a failure of communism as a theory, and more a failure of timing. Either way, these people would say Reagan was just at the right place at the right time and drafted behind history.

    Creep out.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    The Official YellowSnow POTUS Top 10

    1) Lincoln
    2) Worshtington
    3) Teddy
    4) FDR
    5) Jefferson
    6) Adams
    7) Jackson
    8) Reagan
    9) Truman
    10) LBJ

    Reagan was garbage
    He broke the Russians.


    For that alone he gets the at large bid.
    I thought communism broke Russia?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club

    salemcoog said:

    The Official YellowSnow POTUS Top 10

    1) Lincoln
    2) Worshtington
    3) Teddy
    4) FDR
    5) Jefferson
    6) Adams
    7) Jackson
    8) Reagan
    9) Truman
    10) LBJ

    Reagan was garbage
    He broke the Russians.


    For that alone he gets the at large bid.
    Another theory, which I'm somewhat persuaded by, is that their time was up sooner or later for organic reasons, not for Reagan reasons.

    The theory, which buys Marxism an "out", is this: they rushed into communism w/o going through a full stage of capitalism, which as we all know does wonders to eliminate scarcity. They hopped over capitalism from a feudal system and tried to make it work. The Communist Manifesto supports doing this. The German Ideaology and Das Kapital, do not.

    The doctrine of historical materialism and its prediction of a socialist utopia depends a great deal, or entirely, on the concept of technological advancement. You saw this expressed through Soviet Russia's near obsession with doing great public works. The idea is that, once you get to some magical place where technology can eliminate scarcity, people won't have to compete for their existence, and can instead go off and self-actualize, because I guess we call all just wander into these make-believe warehouses and get whatever we need whenever we want to. Whatever. Who's really to say what the world will look like in 1,000 years anyway.

    But the basic notion here would be that they tried central planning before they could pull it off. That, and they were surrounded by hostile interests who didn't trade with them and who cut them off economically, or tried to. In the end, the theory goes, Russia's failure was less a failure of communism as a theory, and more a failure of timing. Either way, these people would say Reagan was just at the right place at the right time and drafted behind history.

    Creep out.
    A key part of being President is simply to not fuck up and draft up history.

    His greatest achievement might have been giving Volckler the political cover needed to end stagflation.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025

    Since 1960 the match up is even

    Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama

    Nixon, Ford (shouldn't count) Reagan, Bush, Bush. Trump broke the tie

    the years were even going into the last election too

    GOPs have too much down low on the block. Reagan and Ford would just go to town on Carter and Johnson.

    And despite having two black guys in Clinton and Obama, Obama can only go left and has that ugly ass cross-face fling shot.

    You know George Herbert Walker Bush has a sweet one handed set shot to open up the inside game, too.

    Kennedy could off but was prone to back injuries.

    Nixon and Trump would use all 10 fouls available.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    The Official YellowSnow POTUS Top 10

    1) Lincoln
    2) Worshtington
    3) Teddy
    4) FDR
    5) Jefferson
    6) Adams
    7) Jackson
    8) Reagan
    9) Truman
    10) LBJ

    Reagan? lol

    Reagan did a lot of FS shit and he was basically a total disaster, but how can anyone here forgive him for legitimizing and bringing to the center of American politics the fucking evangelicals?

    FFS.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025
    Swaye said:

    The Official YellowSnow POTUS Top 10

    1) Lincoln
    2) Worshtington
    3) Teddy
    4) FDR
    5) Jefferson
    6) Adams
    7) Jackson
    8) Reagan
    9) Truman
    10) LBJ

    Great list. Except Jackson. Racist.
    You at least must respect the bad ass motherfucker. The top two were racists as well by virtue of slave ownership. But props to Jefferson for banging that little tart Sally Hemings.

    Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
    Sold in the market down in New Orleans
    Scarred old slaver knows he's doin' all right
    Hear him whip the women just around midnight
    Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
    Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should
    Drums beatin' cold, English blood runs hot
    Lady of the house wonderin' when it's gonna stop
    House boy knows that he's doin' all right
    You should have heard him just around midnight
    Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
    Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should