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Steel and aluminum tariffs

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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,570
    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

    Nothing at all.

    Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.
    I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

    I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.
    I could see how this could be your take - if you're a retarded weakling that needs tariffs to protect your shitty business model.

    Go kill yourself, you tax loving donkey.
    If you buy foreign cars you pay a premium. Big fucking deal.

    Who even thinks this thing will pass? It’s postering. A nutless monkey can see that.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam


    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

    Nothing at all.

    Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.
    I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

    I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.
    I could see how this could be your take - if you're a retarded weakling that needs tariffs to protect your shitty business model.

    Go kill yourself, you tax loving donkey.
    If you buy foreign cars you pay a premium. Big fucking deal.

    Who even thinks this thing will pass? It’s postering. A nutless monkey can see that.
    Yeah. Hyundai's and Kia's cost a fucking fortune.

    You're a nutless monkey.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117


    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

    Nothing at all.

    Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.
    I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

    I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.
    I could see how this could be your take - if you're a retarded weakling that needs tariffs to protect your shitty business model.

    Go kill yourself, you tax loving donkey.
    If you buy foreign cars you pay a premium. Big fucking deal.

    Who even thinks this thing will pass? It’s postering. A nutless monkey can see that.
    No one does but its sure is fun to freak out about it!
    This decision isn't going to require a senate vote, if Trump follows through it will go into effect.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,015
    Woof said:

    Woof said:

    China accounts for about 2% of our steel imports. This doesn't do jack shit to them.

    Our poutine-eating, hockey-loving brethren to the north and our mezcal and taco-making brethren to the south are the primary countries impacted, along with Brazil.

    Sounds like the EU effects them more than us?

    it may all be moot if China does join modern steel manufacturing. Their edge has been production like the US in the 19th century. Very dirty
    I can't find data, but I think it makes sense that Chinese steel could make it easier to Europe, or at least they compete for similar markets more frequently.
    Not a big fan of this particular action, but who's steel goes where is meaningless...its a commodity and an optimization of shipping prices and nothing more. That is why its a pretty good bet whoever was the journalist moron that wrote the original article highlighting this does not understand the basics of a supply and demand curve.

    China produces 50% of the global steel (and about 10x of what the US produces)...thinking this isn't aimed straight at them is FS.

    Will be interesting to see the outrage if and when Trump really does cancel NAFTA like I think he actually might (and should)...if it happens it should be in a month or two.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Woof said:

    Woof said:

    China accounts for about 2% of our steel imports. This doesn't do jack shit to them.

    Our poutine-eating, hockey-loving brethren to the north and our mezcal and taco-making brethren to the south are the primary countries impacted, along with Brazil.

    Sounds like the EU effects them more than us?

    it may all be moot if China does join modern steel manufacturing. Their edge has been production like the US in the 19th century. Very dirty
    I can't find data, but I think it makes sense that Chinese steel could make it easier to Europe, or at least they compete for similar markets more frequently.
    Not a big fan of this particular action, but who's steel goes where is meaningless...its a commodity and an optimization of shipping prices and nothing more. That is why its a pretty good bet whoever was the journalist moron that wrote the original article highlighting this does not understand the basics of a supply and demand curve.

    China produces 50% of the global steel (and about 10x of what the US produces)...thinking this isn't aimed straight at them is FS.

    Will be interesting to see the outrage if and when Trump really does cancel NAFTA like I think he actually might (and should)...if it happens it should be in a month or two.
    BUT....BUT.... The stock market dropped 200 points!!!!!!!!
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    Woof said:

    Woof said:

    China accounts for about 2% of our steel imports. This doesn't do jack shit to them.

    Our poutine-eating, hockey-loving brethren to the north and our mezcal and taco-making brethren to the south are the primary countries impacted, along with Brazil.

    Sounds like the EU effects them more than us?

    it may all be moot if China does join modern steel manufacturing. Their edge has been production like the US in the 19th century. Very dirty
    I can't find data, but I think it makes sense that Chinese steel could make it easier to Europe, or at least they compete for similar markets more frequently.
    Not a big fan of this particular action, but who's steel goes where is meaningless...its a commodity and an optimization of shipping prices and nothing more. That is why its a pretty good bet whoever was the journalist moron that wrote the original article highlighting this does not understand the basics of a supply and demand curve.

    China produces 50% of the global steel (and about 10x of what the US produces)...thinking this isn't aimed straight at them is FS.

    Will be interesting to see the outrage if and when Trump really does cancel NAFTA like I think he actually might (and should)...if it happens it should be in a month or two.
    Then they can aim it straight at them. The tariffs he's proposing are global.