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Steel and aluminum tariffs

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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    Saracen said:
    So I read the headline and a couple sentences. But wouldn’t a Swedish!!! Company who imports products made of Alum and Steel be more motivated to make more product here to avoid the tariffs?
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,412
    dflea said:

    dflea said:


    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

    Nothing at all.

    Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.
    I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

    I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.
    I could see how this could be your take - if you're a retarded weakling that needs tariffs to protect your shitty business model.

    Go kill yourself, you tax loving donkey.
    If you buy foreign cars you pay a premium. Big fucking deal.

    Who even thinks this thing will pass? It’s postering. A nutless monkey can see that.
    Yeah. Hyundai's and Kia's cost a fucking fortune.

    You're a nutless monkey.
    Premium doesn’t mean expensive. When you have to pay $18k instead of $15k for a new Kia, that’s called paying a premium. I hope you now understand the difference you nutless monkey
    I understand the difference between you and someone who isn't a faggot.

    Go ahead and make your case to justify the 3 grand "premium" you stupid cunt.
    I’m not the one that drives a Kia...wuss
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    dflea said:

    dflea said:


    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

    Nothing at all.

    Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.
    I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

    I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.
    I could see how this could be your take - if you're a retarded weakling that needs tariffs to protect your shitty business model.

    Go kill yourself, you tax loving donkey.
    If you buy foreign cars you pay a premium. Big fucking deal.

    Who even thinks this thing will pass? It’s postering. A nutless monkey can see that.
    Yeah. Hyundai's and Kia's cost a fucking fortune.

    You're a nutless monkey.
    Premium doesn’t mean expensive. When you have to pay $18k instead of $15k for a new Kia, that’s called paying a premium. I hope you now understand the difference you nutless monkey
    I understand the difference between you and someone who isn't a faggot.

    Go ahead and make your case to justify the 3 grand "premium" you stupid cunt.
    I’m not the one that drives a Kia...wuss
    Did Sledog help you with that one?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,843 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:


    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

    Nothing at all.

    Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.
    I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

    I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.
    I could see how this could be your take - if you're a retarded weakling that needs tariffs to protect your shitty business model.

    Go kill yourself, you tax loving donkey.
    If you buy foreign cars you pay a premium. Big fucking deal.

    Who even thinks this thing will pass? It’s postering. A nutless monkey can see that.
    Yeah. Hyundai's and Kia's cost a fucking fortune.

    You're a nutless monkey.
    Premium doesn’t mean expensive. When you have to pay $18k instead of $15k for a new Kia, that’s called paying a premium. I hope you now understand the difference you nutless monkey
    I understand the difference between you and someone who isn't a faggot.

    Go ahead and make your case to justify the 3 grand "premium" you stupid cunt.
    I’m not the one that drives a Kia...wuss
    Did Sledog help you with that one?
    Obviously not. I would have said "not the flaming spandex butt pirate driving a Kia".
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:


    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

    Nothing at all.

    Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.
    I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

    I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.
    I could see how this could be your take - if you're a retarded weakling that needs tariffs to protect your shitty business model.

    Go kill yourself, you tax loving donkey.
    If you buy foreign cars you pay a premium. Big fucking deal.

    Who even thinks this thing will pass? It’s postering. A nutless monkey can see that.
    Yeah. Hyundai's and Kia's cost a fucking fortune.

    You're a nutless monkey.
    Premium doesn’t mean expensive. When you have to pay $18k instead of $15k for a new Kia, that’s called paying a premium. I hope you now understand the difference you nutless monkey
    I understand the difference between you and someone who isn't a faggot.

    Go ahead and make your case to justify the 3 grand "premium" you stupid cunt.
    I’m not the one that drives a Kia...wuss
    Did Sledog help you with that one?
    Obviously not. I would have said "not the flaming spandex butt pirate driving a Kia".
    You seem to have a fetish with flaming spandex butt pirates.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    $250 million is about what the New EQC under construction is slated to cost.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233
    And now doogie will pull some dumbfuck Democrat housewoman out of his hat to show his undying love for Trump and his stupid fucking tariffs.

    Talk about LOfuckingL

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:
    There are dumb fucking Democrats too. Your point?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,211
    Sledog said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:


    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    Had nothing to do with FED dumping assets.

    Nothing at all.

    Please explain why the tariffs will help this country? This will spark a trade war and the losers will be consumers.
    I actually don't mind tariffs. This is essentially a consumption tax. The more imported crap you use, the more you pay.

    I kind of wish we just had a national sales tax vs income tax anyway. At least everyone pays for this tax.
    I could see how this could be your take - if you're a retarded weakling that needs tariffs to protect your shitty business model.

    Go kill yourself, you tax loving donkey.
    If you buy foreign cars you pay a premium. Big fucking deal.

    Who even thinks this thing will pass? It’s postering. A nutless monkey can see that.
    Yeah. Hyundai's and Kia's cost a fucking fortune.

    You're a nutless monkey.
    Premium doesn’t mean expensive. When you have to pay $18k instead of $15k for a new Kia, that’s called paying a premium. I hope you now understand the difference you nutless monkey
    I understand the difference between you and someone who isn't a faggot.

    Go ahead and make your case to justify the 3 grand "premium" you stupid cunt.
    I’m not the one that drives a Kia...wuss
    Did Sledog help you with that one?
    Obviously not. I would have said "not the flaming spandex butt pirate driving a Kia".
    Good God you are a limited man.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Trump should not raise tariffs on EU cars. That would be wrong.

    Instead Trump should just make sure EU tariffs and US tariffs are equal so it will be fair and no one will be able to complain
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    Trump should not raise tariffs on EU cars. That would be wrong.

    Instead Trump should just make sure EU tariffs and US tariffs are equal so it will be fair and no one will be able to complain

    Everything equal? I never took you for a Marxist but it's a good look on you.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited March 2018
    What a stupid mother fucker.

    I didn't say Trump should ensure equal outcomes amoeba brain but I'm all for a Level Playing Field aren't you?
  • RedRocketRedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    doogie said:

    What a stupid mother fucker.

    I didn't say Trump should ensure equal outcomes amoeba brain but I'm all for a Level Playing Field aren't you?

    Agreed we need to level the playing field for OPEC and Russia. The US was becoming too energy independent.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2018-03-04/trump-tariffs-are-gift-opec-russia-not-us-shale-oil-gas-pipelines
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    What a stupid mother fucker.

    I didn't say Trump should ensure equal outcomes amoeba brain but I'm all for a Level Playing Field aren't you?

    Just like the tax cut created a level playing field? Fuck you are a dumb Trump fed motherfucker. Think for yourself.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    I'm all for going on offense right now
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    edited March 2018
    The pipeline Bloomberg bit is funny...they don't understand the total costs of pipelines (it ain't just steel). Not as dumb as HondoFS' new sidekick (HI CirrhosisoftheBrain), but amusing...

    As for why aluminum and steel were chosen its a direct shot at China...the media and a few folks around here appear too dumb to realize this. For those that don't think this look at this story from about a year ago:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-chinese-billionaire-may-have-hidden-6-of-the-worlds-aluminum-in-the-mexican-desert-2016-9

    Why exactly would a Chinese billionaire store 6% of the world's aluminum in a desert in Mexico along the US border if it wasn't to illegally get it to the US via NAFTA? And for this and a few others caught I guarantee there is at least 10x more coming through illegally. The best part was the end when he said 'my bad...we really meant to send that to Vietnam.'

    That said I'm assuming this is more of a negotiating ploy than anything else...long term I'm ok with China subsidizing our raw materials...the balance in trade has to be in respecting intellectual property (they don't), opening up their markets to our finished products (they don't unless their specific market isn't caught up enough to make it themselves), and opening up their internal businesses to non-Chinese investments. And we have an inertia of 30 years of politicians not really caring...I'll believe that actually changed when I see some of those things addressed.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,929 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    What a stupid mother fucker.

    I didn't say Trump should ensure equal outcomes amoeba brain but I'm all for a Level Playing Field aren't you?


    Think for yourself
    .
    Yes. Tell us how this works. We can hardly wait to hear your expertise.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    The pipeline Bloomberg bit is funny...they don't understand the total costs of pipelines (it ain't just steel). Not as dumb as HondoFS' new sidekick (HI CirrhosisoftheBrain), but amusing...

    As for why aluminum and steel were chosen its a direct shot at China...the media and a few folks around here appear too dumb to realize this. For those that don't think this look at this story from about a year ago:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-chinese-billionaire-may-have-hidden-6-of-the-worlds-aluminum-in-the-mexican-desert-2016-9

    Why exactly would a Chinese billionaire store 6% of the world's aluminum in a desert in Mexico along the US border if it wasn't to illegally get it to the US via NAFTA? And for this and a few others caught I guarantee there is at least 10x more coming through illegally. The best part was the end when he said 'my bad...we really meant to send that to Vietnam.'

    That said I'm assuming this is more of a negotiating ploy than anything else...long term I'm ok with China subsidizing our raw materials...the balance in trade has to be in respecting intellectual property (they don't), opening up their markets to our finished products (they don't unless their specific market isn't caught up enough to make it themselves), and opening up their internal businesses to non-Chinese investments. And we have an inertia of 30 years of politicians not really caring...I'll believe that actually changed when I see some of those things addressed.

    Word salad — with @HoustonHusky “guarantees” and “assumptions,” and a link too! Very amusing.

    Just say you advocate protectionist trade policies and tariffs to support inefficient and outdated US industry.

    In other words, you’ll believe it when US industrial policy subsidizes the unskilled and uneducated. It’s ok. Just be honest.
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