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Sledog
Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
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This just gets worse every day.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/22/cop-assigned-to-florida-school-never-went-in-amid-shooting-sheriff-says.html
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited February 2018
    so, basically, all the crying and whining about Trump, the FBI, NRA, Congress is all just empty emotional bullshit. I’m shocked. Shocked!

    This Pussy had one job. He chose not to do it, Kids are dead as a result. Fucker needs to be prosecuted and his pension seized.
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  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    The good guy with a gun.

    So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    insinceredawg said:

    The good guy with a gun.

    So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?

    Not to mention he was in uniform, and that probably means he had a bullet proof vest on as well.
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  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,070
    2001400ex said:

    insinceredawg said:

    The good guy with a gun.

    So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?

    Not to mention he was in uniform, and that probably means he had a bullet proof vest on as well.
    If he was in uniform, he probably wore soft body armor that would have been useless against a .223 round.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    BearsWiin said:

    2001400ex said:

    insinceredawg said:

    The good guy with a gun.

    So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?

    Not to mention he was in uniform, and that probably means he had a bullet proof vest on as well.
    If he was in uniform, he probably wore soft body armor that would have been useless against a .223 round.
    I don't know their required uniform there. But I'm sure his uniform has better Protection than how teachers dress on a daily basis.
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  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,070
    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    2001400ex said:

    insinceredawg said:

    The good guy with a gun.

    So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?

    Not to mention he was in uniform, and that probably means he had a bullet proof vest on as well.
    If he was in uniform, he probably wore soft body armor that would have been useless against a .223 round.
    I don't know their required uniform there. But I'm sure his uniform has better Protection than how teachers dress on a daily basis.
    Yes, he was probably wearing effective protection against all manner of handguns that the perpetrator wasn't using.
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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    On a side note if your last name is Peterson please don’t name your kid Scott. Its likely Not to turn out well.
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    HoustonHusky said:

    On a side note if your last name is Peterson please don’t name your kid Scott. Its likely Not to turn out well.

    Scott Peterson heard from.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Gee I guess we couldn't have trained security like we do everywhere else.

    We'll nothing we can do other than ban bump stocks
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    RaceBannon said:

    Gee I guess we couldn't have trained security like we do everywhere else.

    We'll nothing we can do other than ban bump stocks

    Makes sense.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    The Florida shooting was a Local police failure. Nothing more, nothing less.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2018
    insinceredawg said:

    The good guy with a gun.

    So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?

    You have one job in a school shooting scenario. Officers are to bypass all the wounded, dying, screaming kids and move as quickly as possible to locate and shoot the bad guy. It's that simple.

    This is what happens when you lower standards. These people need to be weeded out during training but that's not happening. It's not happening because they simply need the bodies. So few of todays younger people can pass a police background check or psych test as well as the polygraph. Most departments are understaffed. Corners are being cut.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    No, no, it’s not. From the Chief:

    All of our police department personnel strive each day to provide excellent customer service to the community and our stakeholders. The twenty sworn personnel have more than 400 years of combined law enforcement and investigative experience that they bring to work with them each day.

    http://www.broward.k12.fl.us/police/msgchief.html
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogie said:

    I now suspect the Cowardly Sherriff with the Sand Packed Pussy volunteered for the School detail figuring there was zero chance of any danger.

    I also suspect the Elected County Sherriff, his Boss, as well as the Real deputies on the street doing the Real work, knew he was Cowardly with a Sand Packed Pussy as well.

    Yep. I agree completely.

    This is not my typical reaction to a doogie post.

    We may be making some progress here.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    and that scares me just a little. You?

    Not CSPP scared, just a little scared.
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogie said:

    and that scares me just a little. You?

    Not CSPP scared, just a little scared.

    Yeah.



    I checked myself.

    Everything seems to be in order. Still a little bit freaked out, though.

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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    dflea said:

    I can't say I'm shocked.

    Some people are made for charging at an armed assailant. Most aren't, and that includes school guards, cops, and soldiers. Not everyone is Audie Murphy - but nobody on Earth would have looked at Audie Murphy before the war and thought he'd be the enemy-charging bad motherfucker he was.

    You can't teach that shit. You're born with it.

    Has anyone figured out the cost of training, arming, and deploying these school guards? Will that be taken out of the schools' budgets, or will the worthless fucking politicians offering that solution figure out another way to fund it?

    Having armed security sounds like a decent idea to me, but some are making it sound like the only fix we need. It isn't. If I was plotting against you, you'd better fucking have more than an armed teacher to stop it, or it would not turn out well. These shooter fucking kids go to these schools - they know who's a legit threat and who's just a clown with a gun. They know the schedules, the weaknesses, and the Achilles heels of the plans to stop them. I don't think any "system" to protect kids and schools is up to the task.

    Again, I'll offer no solution - just criticism of stupid plans that haven't been thought through for shit.

    So this begs the question


    are you plotting against me?
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Pitchfork51 said:

    dflea said:

    I can't say I'm shocked.

    Some people are made for charging at an armed assailant. Most aren't, and that includes school guards, cops, and soldiers. Not everyone is Audie Murphy - but nobody on Earth would have looked at Audie Murphy before the war and thought he'd be the enemy-charging bad motherfucker he was.

    You can't teach that shit. You're born with it.

    Has anyone figured out the cost of training, arming, and deploying these school guards? Will that be taken out of the schools' budgets, or will the worthless fucking politicians offering that solution figure out another way to fund it?

    Having armed security sounds like a decent idea to me, but some are making it sound like the only fix we need. It isn't. If I was plotting against you, you'd better fucking have more than an armed teacher to stop it, or it would not turn out well. These shooter fucking kids go to these schools - they know who's a legit threat and who's just a clown with a gun. They know the schedules, the weaknesses, and the Achilles heels of the plans to stop them. I don't think any "system" to protect kids and schools is up to the task.

    Again, I'll offer no solution - just criticism of stupid plans that haven't been thought through for shit.

    So this begs the question


    are you plotting against me?
    Not at the moment.

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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club
    Pitchfork51 said:

    dflea said:

    I can't say I'm shocked.

    Some people are made for charging at an armed assailant. Most aren't, and that includes school guards, cops, and soldiers. Not everyone is Audie Murphy - but nobody on Earth would have looked at Audie Murphy before the war and thought he'd be the enemy-charging bad motherfucker he was.

    You can't teach that shit. You're born with it.

    Has anyone figured out the cost of training, arming, and deploying these school guards? Will that be taken out of the schools' budgets, or will the worthless fucking politicians offering that solution figure out another way to fund it?

    Having armed security sounds like a decent idea to me, but some are making it sound like the only fix we need. It isn't. If I was plotting against you, you'd better fucking have more than an armed teacher to stop it, or it would not turn out well. These shooter fucking kids go to these schools - they know who's a legit threat and who's just a clown with a gun. They know the schedules, the weaknesses, and the Achilles heels of the plans to stop them. I don't think any "system" to protect kids and schools is up to the task.

    Again, I'll offer no solution - just criticism of stupid plans that haven't been thought through for shit.

    So this begs the question


    are you plotting against me?
    Do you look like OBK ?
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    New info on PussyCop

    Turns out, he’s a Social Justice Snowflake. https://mobile.twitter.com/scottbix/status/966832499568586752
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    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

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  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam
    couple of things - first I am checking all my relatives to make sure no Scots are there, second @dflea you are assuming the crazed bastards have planning capability in their attacks - all they seem to care about is lots of ammo and big dick extensions guns. no I would not want to go up against an attack planned by anyone from HH - that would be Hilinski (too soon?)
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    New info on PussyCop

    Turns out, he’s a Social Justice Snowflake. https://mobile.twitter.com/scottbix/status/966832499568586752

    Doogie doesn't realize that this "pussy cop" story actually makes his argument for arming teachers even more fucktarded.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    New info on PussyCop

    Turns out, he’s a Social Justice Snowflake. https://mobile.twitter.com/scottbix/status/966832499568586752

    Doogie doesn't realize that this "pussy cop" story actually makes his argument for arming teachers even more fucktarded.
    No, it's the failure of government to protect. People are dating turn in your guns the government will protect you. Here we have a failure at every level of government. Even the schools video system was fucked and on a 26 minute delay! Cops were using it and no one told them it was oun a crazy stupid delay. Everything that could go wrong went wrong.

    FBI failed, local police/sheriff failed, officer on scene failed to engage.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    New info on PussyCop

    Turns out, he’s a Social Justice Snowflake. https://mobile.twitter.com/scottbix/status/966832499568586752

    Doogie doesn't realize that this "pussy cop" story actually makes his argument for arming teachers even more fucktarded.
    Fuck off. You are a domestic enemy of the United States.
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