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Kyler Gordon, 2018 4* DB, Everett (Archbishop Murphy), WA (COMMITTED)

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Jimmy Lake flirting with leaving last year is really coming back to fuck our recruiting. You know all the other coaches in the conference are whispering in the ear of all his recruits that he won't be sticking around. I'd love to see UW give him the title of Associate HC or something with a agreement that whenever Pete leaves or retires he is next up however who knows when that will be.

    Dude's never called plays, let's make him coach in waiting cause recruits!
    At least half of college football is recruiting if not more so yeah I value recruiting. He has also been the best at developing talent on the entire coaching staff.

    I'm not going to pretend to know if Jimmy Lake can call plays well however he has been in Pete's system for awhile and if my proposal came to pass would most likely be learning under Pete for a number of more years before taking the reigns. It's not something I'm overly concerned with. If thinking Pete can develop his coaches as well as he can his players is being a doog than so be it. I don't think it will happen I was just throwing it out there as an interesting scenario.

    If recruiting was more than half of CFB a Chris Strausser OL never sniffs the playoffs. Recruiting is maybe 40% at most.

    Lake is phenomenal at developing DBs, no question about that. I love the dude. But no way I'm giving the future to a guy who's never been a coordinator, let alone at a high level. Every head coach I know of who never coordinated before getting the HC slot bombed.

    Hard pass.
    Disagree with the bolded, otherwise, good.
    I know you guys do, and I love you, but we'll agree to disagree on that.

    Recruiting is important. We aren't winning an NC without high level recruiting. On that we agree.

    But there's so much more that goes into a great program. Setting a winning culture/work ethic. Developing players skills. Developing players bodies. X's and O's. Choosing the right players to play. Managing personalities.

    I'm honestly not sure recruiting is more than 33% of it.

    To be the best you need to be good at all of those and great at most of them.

    Recruiting matters. It's important. But so are a lot of other things.
    I agree that all of that is important. But I have heard from the horses mouth (Not @SpiritHorse) that recruiting is over 50% of the job now. It is, it just is, it is what it is, therefore it is.

    It's a clear cut case of abundance that everything matters, that is why we are good, because everything matters and Pete is so good with culture, development, strength/nutrition, work ethic and all that.
    If it had been @SpiritHorse I might have reconsidered. But since it's not:

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  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    Tequilla said:

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    867-5309

    Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to?
    You give me something I can hold on to
    I know you think I'm like the others before
    Who saw your name and number on the wall
    Goddamnit, my skin is getting itchy. But what the hell ...

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number

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    You don't know me but you make me so happy
    I tried to call you before but I lost my nerve
    I tried my imagination but I was disturbed

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number
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    I got it (i got it) I got it
    I got your number on the wall
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    For a good time, for a good time call

    Jenny don't change your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny I've called your number

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    Jenny Jenny who can I turn to (eight six seven five three oh nine)
    For the price of a dime I can always turn to you (eight six seven five three oh nine)

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    okay, that's the end of that. I feel so middle aged ... where's my Corvette?
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506
    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    867-5309

    Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to?
    You give me something I can hold on to
    I know you think I'm like the others before
    Who saw your name and number on the wall
    Goddamnit, my skin is getting itchy. But what the hell ...

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Jenny jenny you're the girl for me
    You don't know me but you make me so happy
    I tried to call you before but I lost my nerve
    I tried my imagination but I was disturbed

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine

    I got it (i got it) I got it
    I got your number on the wall
    I got it (i got it) I got it
    For a good time, for a good time call

    Jenny don't change your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny I've called your number

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
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    Jenny Jenny who can I turn to (eight six seven five three oh nine)
    For the price of a dime I can always turn to you (eight six seven five three oh nine)

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    okay, that's the end of that. I feel so middle aged ... where's my Corvette?
    Jesus. Shut the fuck up with that shit. You're ruining this teen boy stalking thread.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    867-5309

    Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to?
    You give me something I can hold on to
    I know you think I'm like the others before
    Who saw your name and number on the wall
    Goddamnit, my skin is getting itchy. But what the hell ...

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Jenny jenny you're the girl for me
    You don't know me but you make me so happy
    I tried to call you before but I lost my nerve
    I tried my imagination but I was disturbed

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine

    I got it (i got it) I got it
    I got your number on the wall
    I got it (i got it) I got it
    For a good time, for a good time call

    Jenny don't change your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny I've called your number

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine

    Jenny Jenny who can I turn to (eight six seven five three oh nine)
    For the price of a dime I can always turn to you (eight six seven five three oh nine)

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
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    okay, that's the end of that. I feel so middle aged ... where's my Corvette?
    Jesus. Shut the fuck up with that shit. You're ruining this teen boy stalking thread.
    It done! Ran out of lyrics ... Uhhh, which teen boi are talking about again?

    Kyler Gordon.

    Need this dude.

    And yah, Talanoa Hufanga is revealing his 5 official visits this evening in Nemec's podcast. What are the odds?
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255
    animate said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    867-5309

    Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to?
    You give me something I can hold on to
    I know you think I'm like the others before
    Who saw your name and number on the wall
    Goddamnit, my skin is getting itchy. But what the hell ...

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Jenny jenny you're the girl for me
    You don't know me but you make me so happy
    I tried to call you before but I lost my nerve
    I tried my imagination but I was disturbed

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine

    I got it (i got it) I got it
    I got your number on the wall
    I got it (i got it) I got it
    For a good time, for a good time call

    Jenny don't change your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny I've called your number

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine

    Jenny Jenny who can I turn to (eight six seven five three oh nine)
    For the price of a dime I can always turn to you (eight six seven five three oh nine)

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine (five three oh nine)
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine (five three oh nine)
    Eight six seven five three oh nine (five three oh nine)

    okay, that's the end of that. I feel so middle aged ... where's my Corvette?
    Jesus. Shut the fuck up with that shit. You're ruining this teen boy stalking thread.
    It done! Ran out of lyrics ... Uhhh, which teen boi are talking about again?

    Kyler Gordon.

    Need this dude.

    And yah, Talanoa Hufanga is revealing his 5 official visits this evening in Nemec's podcast. What are the odds?
    He already revealed his visits. He's cutting his list tonight.
  • rustysavage
    rustysavage Member Posts: 942
    I hear the beavs are going for Marco Brewer
  • Edwin_Bambino
    Edwin_Bambino Member Posts: 2,944

    animate said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    867-5309

    Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to?
    You give me something I can hold on to
    I know you think I'm like the others before
    Who saw your name and number on the wall
    Goddamnit, my skin is getting itchy. But what the hell ...

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Jenny jenny you're the girl for me
    You don't know me but you make me so happy
    I tried to call you before but I lost my nerve
    I tried my imagination but I was disturbed

    Jenny I've got your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny don't change your number
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine

    I got it (i got it) I got it
    I got your number on the wall
    I got it (i got it) I got it
    For a good time, for a good time call

    Jenny don't change your number
    I need to make you mine
    Jenny I've called your number

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine

    Jenny Jenny who can I turn to (eight six seven five three oh nine)
    For the price of a dime I can always turn to you (eight six seven five three oh nine)

    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine (five three oh nine)
    Eight six seven five three oh nine
    Eight six seven five three oh nine (five three oh nine)
    Eight six seven five three oh nine (five three oh nine)

    okay, that's the end of that. I feel so middle aged ... where's my Corvette?
    Jesus. Shut the fuck up with that shit. You're ruining this teen boy stalking thread.
    It done! Ran out of lyrics ... Uhhh, which teen boi are talking about again?

    Kyler Gordon.

    Need this dude.

    And yah, Talanoa Hufanga is revealing his 5 official visits this evening in Nemec's podcast. What are the odds?
    He already revealed his visits. He's cutting his list tonight.
    Didn't even get a hat on the table. WTF.
  • HuskyClaws
    HuskyClaws Member Posts: 1,170
    Had an in-home visit with Brian Kelly today. He's visiting ND next weekend again (unofficially this time) for 3 days. Going to be a tough battle with ND.
  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    edited November 2017
    How has Lake not delivered this kid yet?
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    biak1 said:

    How has Lake not delivered this kid yet?

    Caz he is one foot out the door
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506

    Had an in-home visit with Brian Kelly today. He's visiting ND next weekend again (unofficially this time) for 3 days. Going to be a tough battle with ND.

    Sounds like Lake may have gotten caught with his pants down on this one. Obviously Lake has been a great recruiter the last couple years but this year has been a real struggle for him thus far. No excuse for losing Kyler to ND.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    It’s what happens when you flirt with another job for 3-4 days and everyone in the industry knew it. He was gonna have a tough time recruiting this year because of that, hopefully he can overcome it with Gordon.
  • DawgDaze71
    DawgDaze71 Member Posts: 708
    He probably wants to leave Washington. I'm ok with that.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    dhdawg said:

    there is something seriously wrong with our recruiting. this kid should have been committed months ago. Tremblay should have committed months ago. Taimani should have committed months ago.

    Yes we lost tui last year. it fucking happens. that doesn't mean we employ a strategy of letting kids dick around for 5 months until they eventually get captivated by some shiny object and we end up with a bunch of JAG losers like Wilson and that other POS we just flipped from utah

    It seems Petersen wanted to put everyone on the back burner until the season was over. Not sure that was such a great strategy.

    Now he is suddenly full throttle.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Gordon is weird. Arguably our best recruiter can’t land a position we pump into the NFL more than almost any other team is confusing. Togiai is also kind of a blunder but not really (Malloe) UW should be an easy sell with the location, recent success of not only the program, but defensive linemen like Vea, Gaines, Shelton etc.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    NEsnake12 said:

    Pete and co seem to always hit this imaginary recruiting wall at the end of every summer. They land a bunch of their top targets early on in the year and we doog out, but then the football season starts and almost everything is downhill from there.

    In the 3 full recruiting cycles Pete's had here (2015-17), I can think of like 6 total players who were top targets and actually committed during or after the season: Potato, Joyner, Murphy, Levi, Molden, Bain. And for those 6 guys there's an almost countless number of whiffs.

    If we miss out on most of our late targets and have to settle for plan C's yet again, then Pete needs to rethink how he's approaching recruiting top talent.

    Does Chico count? That’s about it.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Jimmy Lake flirting with leaving last year is really coming back to fuck our recruiting. You know all the other coaches in the conference are whispering in the ear of all his recruits that he won't be sticking around. I'd love to see UW give him the title of Associate HC or something with a agreement that whenever Pete leaves or retires he is next up however who knows when that will be.

    Dude's never called plays, let's make him coach in waiting cause recruits!
    At least half of college football is recruiting if not more so yeah I value recruiting. He has also been the best at developing talent on the entire coaching staff.

    I'm not going to pretend to know if Jimmy Lake can call plays well however he has been in Pete's system for awhile and if my proposal came to pass would most likely be learning under Pete for a number of more years before taking the reigns. It's not something I'm overly concerned with. If thinking Pete can develop his coaches as well as he can his players is being a doog than so be it. I don't think it will happen I was just throwing it out there as an interesting scenario.

    If recruiting was more than half of CFB a Chris Strausser OL never sniffs the playoffs. Recruiting is maybe 40% at most.

    Lake is phenomenal at developing DBs, no question about that. I love the dude. But no way I'm giving the future to a guy who's never been a coordinator, let alone at a high level. Every head coach I know of who never coordinated before getting the HC slot bombed.

    Hard pass.
    Disagree with the bolded, otherwise, good.
    What should we expect from a full-time, pedo-level, TBSing, record-setting Restraining Order recipient? 19-22 is too old for the TSIO guys. They focus on the fresh boys.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    edited December 2017
    literally 30 seconds before I posted it FML
  • Edwin_Bambino
    Edwin_Bambino Member Posts: 2,944

    Is he any relation to KeiVarrae Russell? Just curious.

    FUCK that guy.