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  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,591 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2017
    Watching the video the rate of fire sounds like about 5-600 RPM. That would match the AK. The M-16 is as high as 750 RPM. Could be any number of guns though. Possible it's a semi-auto with a crank trigger device or slide fire stock. Rate of fire seems to vary. Just watched another video with a pretty long string of fire. Pretty consistent. If this is an ISIS op, guy doesn't fit the profile, any kind of weapon would be possible. Guns are easy to get over the border.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    Fuck man I was down with my cousins on the strip last night

    Craziness
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    AZDuck said:

    Who da fuck knows. Charles Whitman type? But wifey I'd a "person of interest."

    Also, OBK, I like guns and am probably a better shot and know much more about them than you do.

    Regulation to ensure public safety of a dangerous instrumentality =\= confiscation.

    I'm fucking tired of mass murders happening every time some whack job gets it in his head to blow people away. It's fucking preventable terrorism.

    Because there would never be such a thing as a black market
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    And you're allowed the coach children?
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    doogie said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    And you're allowed the coach children?
    Guns, booze, smokes, and porn are all legal big guy.

    Touch some grass though and your life is over.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,591 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    AZDuck said:

    Who da fuck knows. Charles Whitman type? But wifey I'd a "person of interest."

    Also, OBK, I like guns and am probably a better shot and know much more about them than you do.

    Regulation to ensure public safety of a dangerous instrumentality =\= confiscation.

    I'm fucking tired of mass murders happening every time some whack job gets it in his head to blow people away. It's fucking preventable terrorism.

    Because there would never be such a thing as a black market
    Yeah smuggling drugs doesn't happen.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Sledog said:

    Watching the video the rate of fire sounds like about 5-600 RPM. That would match the AK. The M-16 is as high as 750 RPM. Could be any number of guns though. Possible it's a semi-auto with a crank trigger device or slide fire stock. Rate of fire seems to vary. Just watched another video with a pretty long string of fire. Pretty consistent. If this is an ISIS op, guy doesn't fit the profile, any kind of weapon would be possible. Guns are easy to get over the border.

    Yeah, this is Mexico's fault. Good call....
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    Swaye said:

    AZDuck said:

    Who da fuck knows. Charles Whitman type? But wifey I'd a "person of interest."

    Also, OBK, I like guns and am probably a better shot and know much more about them than you do.

    Regulation to ensure public safety of a dangerous instrumentality =\= confiscation.

    I'm fucking tired of mass murders happening every time some whack job gets it in his head to blow people away. It's fucking preventable terrorism.

    Can't believe I am even going to wade into this because gun control debates always go so well on HH.

    I agree that I am sick of these fucking loons (left or right or muslim or christian or whoever the fuck) killing piles of people. I agree that guns make it easier to inflict massive scale damage. But, I also think that the 2nd Amendment is there for a reason, and limiting it is a very bad idea on principle. Look, I'm a life member of the NRA and lifetime hunter/2nd amendment supporter. But, I am tired of seeing dozens of people mowed down (Orlando and Vegas). But what's the answer? How do you preserve a very important and unique freedom, while ensuring some basic level of public safety?

    And the issue is, in my mind at least, the give an inch take a mile problem with modern politics. Coastal liberals will not be satisfied until they disarm America, no matter what bullshit sound bites they put on the evening news about "sensible gun legislation." There is an end game with them. Anyone who can't admit that is delusional or a liar. See "Michael Bloomberg" for details. Most NRA members (not the super hardcore nutjobs) that I know, privately will agree that some small amounts of legislation to make powerful weapons harder to get is not a bad thing, but they are never going to go along with ANY legislation because they feel like if they give in on ANYTHING, the libs will just ask for more the next day.

    It's the same deal on the other side with abortion. Most reasonable liberals don't think aborting a baby a week before it is born is a good idea. But, if you allow ANY restrictions on abortion, the religious right loons will just ask for more and more. They have an end game too. So, they put up a total and complete firewall. Same as the NRA. And here we are....give an inch they will take a mile politics now rules the land and no sensible legislation can occur across a number of issues - abortion and guns being two of them.

    If anyone has any good hookers info in Monterrey that won;t get me kidnapped by a cartel please PM me details. TIA.
    What's a "powerful weapon" and what relevance does it have to mass shootings, most of which are done with a small caliber pistol? You can pack a G17 and a dozen loaded mags and kill dozens to hundreds of people. Don't need an AR for that.