The standards of success for Husky Football 2013
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It all depends. It's all about progress. Right now, there has been little progress made, despite the talent improving (Except for OL, and until this recruiting class, the DL). If we went 8-4, but didn't get blown out by 30+, I would agree that progress was being made and Sark could get another year.
I am just tired of all the shit about us being "so close." Teams that are "so close" don't get blown out like we did vs LSU, Oregon, and Arizona. They don't play like we did against Cal, Colorado, and WSU. I get tired of all the Doogs that think we are winning 10 because this is Sark's 5th year, blah, blah. We are so far from being a championship contender. Right now, we are the third best team in the North, probably to most outsiders the fourth. I'm not seeing a team that is "so close." -
The only way 8-4 is acceptable is if the computer rankings have us in the top 20 bc the losses were very close and most of the wins were blowouts. Those are the 8-win teams that jump to 11 wins the next season, provided they return most of their talent.RoadDawg55 said:It all depends. It's all about progress. Right now, there has been little progress made, despite the talent improving (Except for OL, and until this recruiting class, the DL). If we went 8-4, but didn't get blown out by 30+, I would agree that progress was being made and Sark could get another year.
I am just tired of all the shit about us being "so close." Teams that are "so close" don't get blown out like we did vs LSU, Oregon, and Arizona. They don't play like we did against Cal, Colorado, and WSU. I get tired of all the Doogs that think we are winning 10 because this is Sark's 5th year, blah, blah. We are so far from being a championship contender. Right now, we are the third best team in the North, probably to most outsiders the fourth. I'm not seeing a team that is "so close."
Schedule wise- you basically have Illinois instead of LSU. That gets you to 8-4 instead of 7-5, which is why you really need to go 9-3 to show material improvement.
Go 2-3 against UO, Stan, ASU, UCLA and OSU and win the rest and thats 9-3. Win one out of UO, Stan and ASU and they'll have a chance to be 7-2 with UCLA, OSU and WSU left.
Anything less than 8-4 should be an automatic firing. And the offense should have to be substantially better for Sark to keep his job.
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ACSlaterDawg said:
The only way 8-4 is acceptable is if the computer rankings have us in the top 20 bc the losses were very close and most of the wins were blowouts.RoadDawg55 said:It all depends. It's all about progress. Right now, there has been little progress made, despite the talent improving (Except for OL, and until this recruiting class, the DL). If we went 8-4, but didn't get blown out by 30+, I would agree that progress was being made and Sark could get another year.
I am just tired of all the shit about us being "so close." Teams that are "so close" don't get blown out like we did vs LSU, Oregon, and Arizona. They don't play like we did against Cal, Colorado, and WSU. I get tired of all the Doogs that think we are winning 10 because this is Sark's 5th year, blah, blah. We are so far from being a championship contender. Right now, we are the third best team in the North, probably to most outsiders the fourth. I'm not seeing a team that is "so close."
Schedule wise- you basically have Illinois instead of LSU. That gets you to 8-4 instead of 7-5, which is why you really need to go 9-3 to show material improvement.
Go 2-3 against UO, Stan, ASU, UCLA and OSU and win the rest and thats 9-3. Win one out of UO, Stan and ASU and they'll have a chance to be 7-2 with UCLA, OSU and WSU left.
I agree with you Slater. That was my point. I'm tired of getting our asses handed to us. If we went 8-4 with no loss greater than 21 or so, I would not be livid at the thought of Sark returning (Although, he is a very, very average coach). That is not going to happen and more than likely we will have another 7-5 season with a couple blow out losses, but will be stuck watching this soft, undisciplined football for another year. Right now, if I had to bet, we will go 0-4 in conference road games. We will probably hear the injury and youth excuse again. Rinse and repeat. At some point, it is time to sack up and at least compete for the Pac 12 North title, but anyone who is not a delusional homer knows we are far behind Oregon and Stanford, and equal (at best) with OSU.
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A 21 point loss is still a blowout. That's not competitive. Competitive is winning all the games "you're supposed to win", winning better than half of your "toss ups", winning a game or two "you're not supposed to win", and only losing by margins that leave the outcome of those games in question until very late in the the game. And in every game, impose your fucking will on the opponent, leaving them bruised and battered enough that they don't want anything to do with you again.
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Illinois away is no gimme for this team. I'll actually be surprised if we win that game....sad. Hope I'm wrong.
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If we don't win the 2012 and 2014 Rose Bowl this year I am not sure I can support Sark any longer.
Or we will win half our games, he will recruit some wide receivers and kids who can't play linebacker or DE and I'll eat his shit and smile.
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Illinois is the Colorado of the Big10. I could certainly see us struggling and then pulling away. If we lose that game then Sark should be fired on the spot and left in Illinois to walk home.vadawg said:Illinois away is no gimme for this team. I'll actually be surprised if we win that game....sad. Hope I'm wrong.
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I think we will eek out a win but agree with vadawg that nobody should chalk it up as a gimme.ACSlaterDawg said:
Illinois is the Colorado of the Big10. I could certainly see us struggling and then pulling away. If we lose that game then Sark should be fired on the spot and left in Illinois to walk home.vadawg said:Illinois away is no gimme for this team. I'll actually be surprised if we win that game....sad. Hope I'm wrong.
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It'll be a long walk from Soldier Field to Joeys.ACSlaterDawg said:
Illinois is the Colorado of the Big10. I could certainly see us struggling and then pulling away. If we lose that game then Sark should be fired on the spot and left in Illinois to walk home.vadawg said:Illinois away is no gimme for this team. I'll actually be surprised if we win that game....sad. Hope I'm wrong.
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allegedlyCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
It'll be a long walk from Soldier Field to Joeys.ACSlaterDawg said:
Illinois is the Colorado of the Big10. I could certainly see us struggling and then pulling away. If we lose that game then Sark should be fired on the spot and left in Illinois to walk home.vadawg said:Illinois away is no gimme for this team. I'll actually be surprised if we win that game....sad. Hope I'm wrong.
