P12 Championship line going up
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I think UW is mostly healthy except for recurring vaginitis.flatus said:
Do tell?bisonduck said:
That’s what i heard on a podcast as well. Expect this to breach 10 and swing the other way. If it doesn’t get bet down, there’s something going on like an injury or something of that nature.greenblood said:
Sharps do a lot of things. It was large sum bets that originally drove the spread from -7.5 to -9.5. Large bets are assumed as sharps even though there are a lot of rich idiots who just get the itch and don’t have much knowledge. But general the larger the bet, the more likely it’s a sharp. They make big bets when they see an advantage. What I think will happen is they already got the Ducks at -7.5. I have a feeling they are hoping this gets bet to -10.5, then they go hard on Washington. That creates the arbitrage that if Oregon wins by between 8-10 points, the bettor wins on both tickets.HFNY said:
It's my understanding there would be no math on this bored.greenblood said:Bet volume has been trending Washington while total dollars is trending Oregon. It’s the public picking Washington and sharps picking Oregon. Both have been known to be wrong in big ways, just providing the data trend. It’s about a 63-37 split in bet volume favoring Washington and the points.
But I also thought that the sharps tend to come in the day before a game once the line has settled and they see an arbitrage opportunity (I concede that I am certainly not a "sharp"). -
There are way more rich idiots betting than one would think. A lot of them bet online so I don;t know if several 6 digit bets move the line if it's done on fan duel or draft kings.
Know someone who is a book... He said some idiot called him and bet $30k on Alabama money line. They were favored -13 over Auburn at the time.
$30k on the moneyline was -1600 odds. Total payout was $1875. Risk $30k to win $1875 and it took a 4th&31 to do it. He should have live bet $100 late in 4th Qtr when Bama had less that 1% to win he would have got a way better payout.
There are thousands and thousands of fucktards out there who bet like "sharps" - not sure if those dipshits move the line tho.
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I get your point, but using an example of somebody who won their bet isn't a good example.LaZoris said:There are way more rich idiots betting than one would think. A lot of them bet online so I don;t know if several 6 digit bets move the line if it's done on fan duel or draft kings.
Know someone who is a book... He said some idiot called him and bet $30k on Alabama money line. They were favored -13 over Auburn at the time.
$30k on the moneyline was -1600 odds. Total payout was $1875. Risk $30k to win $1875 and it took a 4th&31 to do it. He should have live bet $100 late in 4th Qtr when Bama had less that 1% to win he would have got a way better payout.
There are thousands and thousands of fucktards out there who bet like "sharps" - not sure if those dipshits move the line tho.
CSB
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Top 5 gif on this bored all tim.Sources said:bisonduck said:
Be more like @Sources. He just spams my poasts with NYBE, Fuck offs, Bury Post, and Flag.RaceBannon said:Retardation gif
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GrundleStiltzkin said:
Fucking goldSources said:bisonduck said:
Be more like @Sources. He just spams my poasts with NYBE, Fuck offs, Bury Post, and Flag.RaceBannon said:Retardation gif
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U gnu hear?Seven_Eleven said:
I get your point, but using an example of somebody who won their bet isn't a good example.LaZoris said:There are way more rich idiots betting than one would think. A lot of them bet online so I don;t know if several 6 digit bets move the line if it's done on fan duel or draft kings.
Know someone who is a book... He said some idiot called him and bet $30k on Alabama money line. They were favored -13 over Auburn at the time.
$30k on the moneyline was -1600 odds. Total payout was $1875. Risk $30k to win $1875 and it took a 4th&31 to do it. He should have live bet $100 late in 4th Qtr when Bama had less that 1% to win he would have got a way better payout.
There are thousands and thousands of fucktards out there who bet like "sharps" - not sure if those dipshits move the line tho.
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I think you and I can disagree on the meaning of the term "sharps". NTTIATWWTgreenblood said:Bet volume has been trending Washington while total dollars is trending Oregon. It’s the public picking Washington and sharps picking Oregon. Both have been known to be wrong in big ways, just providing the data trend. It’s about a 63-37 split in bet volume favoring Washington and the points.
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Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
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"Sharp" superiority guygreenblood said:
Sharps do a lot of things. It was large sum bets that originally drove the spread from -7.5 to -9.5. Large bets are assumed as sharps even though there are a lot of rich idiots who just get the itch and don’t have much knowledge. But general the larger the bet, the more likely it’s a sharp. They make big bets when they see an advantage. What I think will happen is they already got the Ducks at -7.5. I have a feeling they are hoping this gets bet to -10.5, then they go hard on Washington. That creates the arbitrage that if Oregon wins by between 8-10 points, the bettor wins on both tickets.HFNY said:
It's my understanding there would be no math on this bored.greenblood said:Bet volume has been trending Washington while total dollars is trending Oregon. It’s the public picking Washington and sharps picking Oregon. Both have been known to be wrong in big ways, just providing the data trend. It’s about a 63-37 split in bet volume favoring Washington and the points.
But I also thought that the sharps tend to come in the day before a game once the line has settled and they see an arbitrage opportunity (I concede that I am certainly not a "sharp"). -
Yup, just need to prove it on the fieldgreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
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You'd rather face Iowa, eh?AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
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The prospect of the line going higher is part of what has kept me from betting. I don't think there's high odds either team wins by 10+ and will take that spread if I can get it.greenblood said:
Sharps do a lot of things. It was large sum bets that originally drove the spread from -7.5 to -9.5. Large bets are assumed as sharps even though there are a lot of rich idiots who just get the itch and don’t have much knowledge. But general the larger the bet, the more likely it’s a sharp. They make big bets when they see an advantage. What I think will happen is they already got the Ducks at -7.5. I have a feeling they are hoping this gets bet to -10.5, then they go hard on Washington. That creates the arbitrage that if Oregon wins by between 8-10 points, the bettor wins on both tickets.HFNY said:
It's my understanding there would be no math on this bored.greenblood said:Bet volume has been trending Washington while total dollars is trending Oregon. It’s the public picking Washington and sharps picking Oregon. Both have been known to be wrong in big ways, just providing the data trend. It’s about a 63-37 split in bet volume favoring Washington and the points.
But I also thought that the sharps tend to come in the day before a game once the line has settled and they see an arbitrage opportunity (I concede that I am certainly not a "sharp"). -
I agree.UW_Doog_Bot said:
The prospect of the line going higher is part of what has kept me from betting. I don't think there's high odds either team wins by 10+ and will take that spread if I can get it.greenblood said:
Sharps do a lot of things. It was large sum bets that originally drove the spread from -7.5 to -9.5. Large bets are assumed as sharps even though there are a lot of rich idiots who just get the itch and don’t have much knowledge. But general the larger the bet, the more likely it’s a sharp. They make big bets when they see an advantage. What I think will happen is they already got the Ducks at -7.5. I have a feeling they are hoping this gets bet to -10.5, then they go hard on Washington. That creates the arbitrage that if Oregon wins by between 8-10 points, the bettor wins on both tickets.HFNY said:
It's my understanding there would be no math on this bored.greenblood said:Bet volume has been trending Washington while total dollars is trending Oregon. It’s the public picking Washington and sharps picking Oregon. Both have been known to be wrong in big ways, just providing the data trend. It’s about a 63-37 split in bet volume favoring Washington and the points.
But I also thought that the sharps tend to come in the day before a game once the line has settled and they see an arbitrage opportunity (I concede that I am certainly not a "sharp"). -
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope -
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope -
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules -
They aren’t using divisions period. That’s the point. They got sick of either Michigan or Ohio St getting left off the conference title game for Iowa, Purdue, and Wisconsin.RaceBannon said:
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules -
This was the big issue last year (and this year—although the 2 best teams ended up in Vegas this year so it’s moot). But last year the two (potentially three) best teams were in the north and usc played neither of them and made it to Vegas. If usc had played Oregon/uw last year instead of coug/beav, they’re the defending sun bowl champs and Caleb doesn’t sniff a heisman.RaceBannon said:
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules -
If the B1G would have done away with divisions, but still had all the B1G East teams play each other (and limp dick B1G West teams play each other) they would have been up in arms.greenblood said:
They aren’t using divisions period. That’s the point. They got sick of either Michigan or Ohio St getting left off the conference title game for Iowa, Purdue, and Wisconsin.RaceBannon said:
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules
What the Pac 12 did was a desperation play for TV money, it wasn't about an equitable system.
We know the divisions was an equitable system, because if you play the hard schedule (P12 North) they're simply elimination games.
Which Washington eliminated Oregon both years, went undefeated in the harder division, and deserved to get USC and Arizona. -
Why will there still even be conference championship games with a 12 team playoff?
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$$$$$$$$$$1to392831weretaken said:Why will there still even be conference championship games with a 12 team playoff?
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PAC has no divisions but North still plays all team in the North and South is the same. It’s shit logic.
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And winner gets a first round byeEsophagealFeces said:
$$$$$$$$$$1to392831weretaken said:Why will there still even be conference championship games with a 12 team playoff?
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Only way to determine a champ with 20 team leaguesEsophagealFeces said:
$$$$$$$$$$1to392831weretaken said:Why will there still even be conference championship games with a 12 team playoff?
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The odds of two teams squaring off three times in the same season is going to be decently high. It's pretty stupid.
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But not this yeargreenblood said:
They aren’t using divisions period. That’s the point. They got sick of either Michigan or Ohio St getting left off the conference title game for Iowa, Purdue, and Wisconsin.RaceBannon said:
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules
Iowa it is -
It’s going to be pretty hard to make a Conf champ game and not make the playoffs in the B1G/SEC.1to392831weretaken said:The odds of two teams squaring off three times in the same season is going to be decently high. It's pretty stupid.
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Exactly. If this were next year, tOSU and Michigan are both in the playoffs. Washington and Oregon are both in. Texas and Alabama are both in. Alabama/Georgia. If Washington and Oregon somehow finish top-two in the B1G next year, it's possible they could play each other three times consecutively.whlinder said:
It’s going to be pretty hard to make a Conf champ game and not make the playoffs in the B1G/SEC.1to392831weretaken said:The odds of two teams squaring off three times in the same season is going to be decently high. It's pretty stupid.
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This game all but ensures a CFP participant. It's good for the conference and not UW this year. Imagine playing Arizona, they win, and no PAC 12 teams goes to the playoff.greenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
Grow a pair. -
I kinda want to see that happen, now that the prospect's been raised, just for the absurdity.1to392831weretaken said:If Washington and Oregon somehow finish top-two in the B1G next year, it's possible they could play each other three times consecutively.
