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P12 Championship line going up
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You'd rather face Iowa, eh?AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
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The prospect of the line going higher is part of what has kept me from betting. I don't think there's high odds either team wins by 10+ and will take that spread if I can get it.greenblood said:
Sharps do a lot of things. It was large sum bets that originally drove the spread from -7.5 to -9.5. Large bets are assumed as sharps even though there are a lot of rich idiots who just get the itch and don’t have much knowledge. But general the larger the bet, the more likely it’s a sharp. They make big bets when they see an advantage. What I think will happen is they already got the Ducks at -7.5. I have a feeling they are hoping this gets bet to -10.5, then they go hard on Washington. That creates the arbitrage that if Oregon wins by between 8-10 points, the bettor wins on both tickets.HFNY said:
It's my understanding there would be no math on this bored.greenblood said:Bet volume has been trending Washington while total dollars is trending Oregon. It’s the public picking Washington and sharps picking Oregon. Both have been known to be wrong in big ways, just providing the data trend. It’s about a 63-37 split in bet volume favoring Washington and the points.
But I also thought that the sharps tend to come in the day before a game once the line has settled and they see an arbitrage opportunity (I concede that I am certainly not a "sharp"). -
I agree.UW_Doog_Bot said:
The prospect of the line going higher is part of what has kept me from betting. I don't think there's high odds either team wins by 10+ and will take that spread if I can get it.greenblood said:
Sharps do a lot of things. It was large sum bets that originally drove the spread from -7.5 to -9.5. Large bets are assumed as sharps even though there are a lot of rich idiots who just get the itch and don’t have much knowledge. But general the larger the bet, the more likely it’s a sharp. They make big bets when they see an advantage. What I think will happen is they already got the Ducks at -7.5. I have a feeling they are hoping this gets bet to -10.5, then they go hard on Washington. That creates the arbitrage that if Oregon wins by between 8-10 points, the bettor wins on both tickets.HFNY said:
It's my understanding there would be no math on this bored.greenblood said:Bet volume has been trending Washington while total dollars is trending Oregon. It’s the public picking Washington and sharps picking Oregon. Both have been known to be wrong in big ways, just providing the data trend. It’s about a 63-37 split in bet volume favoring Washington and the points.
But I also thought that the sharps tend to come in the day before a game once the line has settled and they see an arbitrage opportunity (I concede that I am certainly not a "sharp"). -
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope -
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope -
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules -
They aren’t using divisions period. That’s the point. They got sick of either Michigan or Ohio St getting left off the conference title game for Iowa, Purdue, and Wisconsin.RaceBannon said:
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules -
This was the big issue last year (and this year—although the 2 best teams ended up in Vegas this year so it’s moot). But last year the two (potentially three) best teams were in the north and usc played neither of them and made it to Vegas. If usc had played Oregon/uw last year instead of coug/beav, they’re the defending sun bowl champs and Caleb doesn’t sniff a heisman.RaceBannon said:
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules -
If the B1G would have done away with divisions, but still had all the B1G East teams play each other (and limp dick B1G West teams play each other) they would have been up in arms.greenblood said:
They aren’t using divisions period. That’s the point. They got sick of either Michigan or Ohio St getting left off the conference title game for Iowa, Purdue, and Wisconsin.RaceBannon said:
UW did since they got hosed out of the CCGgreenblood said:
Same system in the B1G next year. Nobody said much about this when this was implemented last year.RaceBannon said:
Or don't lose the first gamegreenblood said:
Utah didn’t complain when they had to beat Oregon twice two years ago, and then USC twice last year. Quit being and bitch a grow a pair. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you can’t finish. It is what it is. This isn’t 2011 anymore.AOG said:I don't get the point of this "championship" since we? already beat the Dukx and finished first. Money? Staff, true?
Tough talk when the retarded pac 12 is your only hope
B1G isn't using division schedules
What the Pac 12 did was a desperation play for TV money, it wasn't about an equitable system.
We know the divisions was an equitable system, because if you play the hard schedule (P12 North) they're simply elimination games.
Which Washington eliminated Oregon both years, went undefeated in the harder division, and deserved to get USC and Arizona. -
Why will there still even be conference championship games with a 12 team playoff?
