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Asa "Mercer" Turner (the Trevor Lawrence of WC DBs), 4* 2019 S, Carlsbad (HS), CA (Committed)

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  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    He’s a sophomore dude. He’ll be fine.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,043 Swaye's Wigwam

    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    He’s a sophomore dude. He’ll be fine.
    Maybe. He obviously isn't a war daddy type who will throw his body around unless a low risk cheap shot is served up. He needs a transformation that few football players his age can still make...into a tough player. The odds are stacked against him. Football hurts and a guy obviously trying to avoid pain has little chance.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    chuck said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    He’s a sophomore dude. He’ll be fine.
    Maybe. He obviously isn't a war daddy type who will throw his body around unless a low risk cheap shot is served up. He needs a transformation that few football players his age can still make...into a tough player. The odds are stacked against him. Football hurts and a guy obviously trying to avoid pain has little chance.
    Lol good god this isn’t 1980s football anymore dude. He’s a guy that can matchup with tight ends in coverage and play his deep 3rd responsibilities. He doesn’t need to be Kam Chancellor, that’s not his role. He was fine in the box as freshmen.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,043 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited July 2021

    chuck said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    He’s a sophomore dude. He’ll be fine.
    Maybe. He obviously isn't a war daddy type who will throw his body around unless a low risk cheap shot is served up. He needs a transformation that few football players his age can still make...into a tough player. The odds are stacked against him. Football hurts and a guy obviously trying to avoid pain has little chance.
    Lol good god this isn’t 1980s football anymore dude. He’s a guy that can matchup with tight ends in coverage and play his deep 3rd responsibilities. He doesn’t need to be Kam Chancellor, that’s not his role. He was fine in the box as freshmen.
    Everything matters. You don't have to be Cam Chancellor to not be a pussy. It's not an either or.

    He was shit in the box as a frosh. He came in late with a headhunting forearm or two (missed) and lucked unto a pick and everyone here stroked themselves with excitement just like they did Chris Hemphill who was basically the same player.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    He’s a sophomore dude. He’ll be fine.
    Maybe. He obviously isn't a war daddy type who will throw his body around unless a low risk cheap shot is served up. He needs a transformation that few football players his age can still make...into a tough player. The odds are stacked against him. Football hurts and a guy obviously trying to avoid pain has little chance.
    Lol good god this isn’t 1980s football anymore dude. He’s a guy that can matchup with tight ends in coverage and play his deep 3rd responsibilities. He doesn’t need to be Kam Chancellor, that’s not his role. He was fine in the box as freshmen.
    Everything matters. You don't have to be Cam Chancellor to not be a pussy. It's not an either or.

    He was shit in the box as a frosh. He came in late with a headhunting forearm or two (missed) and lucked unto a pick and everyone here stroked themselves with excitement just like they are a did Chris Hemphill who was basically the same player.
    Did you expect a 6”4 180lb that virtually had to play linebacker because Manu and Welly were so shit to be a world beater dude? He was serviceable.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,087 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2021
    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    Nice find. Did not age well.

    He was not average at run fits or getting people down. He was bad. He could get better. LAN got way better over the years but it’s not looking good for him.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,043 Swaye's Wigwam

    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    Nice find. Did not age well.

    He was not average at run fits or getting people down. He was bad. He could get better. LAN got way better over the years but it’s not looking good for him.
    LAN was saved when Petersen and Lake moved him into the slot and then outside. He was horrible as a safety, but lucky for him he had low 4.4 speed and crazy good short area quickness to go with his lanky 6'3" frame. I dont think a switch to corner is going to be Turner's ticket. He has to get tough.
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,628 Swaye's Wigwam
    LAN? Local Area Network?
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,732 Swaye's Wigwam

    LAN? Local Area Network?

    Kevin King
  • rustysavagerustysavage Member Posts: 942
    I mean he's from Carlsbad... its not exactly a rough place.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    chuck said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    He’s a sophomore dude. He’ll be fine.
    Maybe. He obviously isn't a war daddy type who will throw his body around unless a low risk cheap shot is served up. He needs a transformation that few football players his age can still make...into a tough player. The odds are stacked against him. Football hurts and a guy obviously trying to avoid pain has little chance.
    Lol good god this isn’t 1980s football anymore dude. He’s a guy that can matchup with tight ends in coverage and play his deep 3rd responsibilities. He doesn’t need to be Kam Chancellor, that’s not his role. He was fine in the box as freshmen.
    2020s football still allows hitting. Someone should inform Asa.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,087 Standard Supporter

    chuck said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    He’s a sophomore dude. He’ll be fine.
    Maybe. He obviously isn't a war daddy type who will throw his body around unless a low risk cheap shot is served up. He needs a transformation that few football players his age can still make...into a tough player. The odds are stacked against him. Football hurts and a guy obviously trying to avoid pain has little chance.
    Lol good god this isn’t 1980s football anymore dude. He’s a guy that can matchup with tight ends in coverage and play his deep 3rd responsibilities. He doesn’t need to be Kam Chancellor, that’s not his role. He was fine in the box as freshmen.
    2020s football still allows hitting. Someone should inform Asa.
    Nobody needs him to a big hitter. We just need him to bring people down and not AVOID contact. Safeties and linebackers typically lead the team in tackles. They shouldn’t be avoiding them.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726
    TommySQC said:

    LAN? Local Area Network?

    Kevin King
    Long Ass Neck?
    yes
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
    Wow. I thought these guys were kidding about these takes.
    He’s a sophomore dude. He’ll be fine.
    Maybe. He obviously isn't a war daddy type who will throw his body around unless a low risk cheap shot is served up. He needs a transformation that few football players his age can still make...into a tough player. The odds are stacked against him. Football hurts and a guy obviously trying to avoid pain has little chance.
    Lol good god this isn’t 1980s football anymore dude. He’s a guy that can matchup with tight ends in coverage and play his deep 3rd responsibilities. He doesn’t need to be Kam Chancellor, that’s not his role. He was fine in the box as freshmen.
    Everything matters. You don't have to be Cam Chancellor to not be a pussy. It's not an either or.

    He was shit in the box as a frosh. He came in late with a headhunting forearm or two (missed) and lucked unto a pick and everyone here stroked themselves with excitement just like they are a did Chris Hemphill who was basically the same player.
    Did you expect a 6”4 180lb that virtually had to play linebacker because Manu and Welly were so shit to be a world beater dude? He was serviceable.
    He was bad. He’s a horrible tackler and is soft.
  • EsophagealFecesEsophagealFeces Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,089 Swaye's Wigwam
    Turner is thus far the epitome of “ looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane”.
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