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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,826 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    I have a black friend.

    Portland's finest killed a white dude 3 days ago.

    You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.

    Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.

    Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.

    It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.

    Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.

    Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.

    I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
    “ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”

    You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
    What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
    It's an indictment of the entire white race
    It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.

    Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
    Do you indict the entire black race?

    Its textbook racism
    It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
    I like having you here. No homo.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,826 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism

    For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them

    I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.

    I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.

    I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years

    Talk is cheap.

    He also called for violence against whites.
    When it was warranted and on the south in the 60's it was. The north too

    Times were different back then.

    Black Panthers and Black Muslims with guns protected the community. Malcom said live in peace unless they put their hands on you. I have no problem with that
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,826 Founders Club
    edited June 2020
    MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO

    A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.

    OK
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204

    MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO

    A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.

    OK

    Oppressed Ivy League Lawyer


  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,353

    Thoughts

    1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.

    2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation

    3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.

    No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.

    4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?

    Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd

    5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.

    Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?

    Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
    Tequilla? That you?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,826 Founders Club
    edited June 2020

    Baseman said:

    Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism

    For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them

    I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.

    I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.

    I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years

    Talk is cheap.

    He also called for violence against whites.
    Violence against whites when justified


    I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.

    Just a point of clarification.
    He also went to Mecca and saw Muslims of all races which started him away from the Black Muslims to a different world view. Called out Elijah for being a pedophile and it cost him his life
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,382

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    I have a black friend.

    Portland's finest killed a white dude 3 days ago.

    You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.

    Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.

    Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.

    It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.

    Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.

    Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.

    I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
    “ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”

    You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
    What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
    It's an indictment of the entire white race
    It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.

    Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
    Do you indict the entire black race?

    Its textbook racism
    It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
    I like having you here. No homo.

  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,382

    Baseman said:

    Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism

    For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them

    I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.

    I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.

    I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years

    Talk is cheap.

    He also called for violence against whites.
    Violence against whites when justified


    I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.

    Just a point of clarification.
    I saw that and stand corrected.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,382

    MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO

    A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.

    OK

    MLK gets all the pub. The speeches were nice, the message inspiring. It hasn't changed shit. I don't know that I'm good with giving blacks a free pass on killing whitey. Most of these incidents have started with the black man committing the crime. If a black man pulls a gun and an officer justifiably shoots and kills him, is it alright for cities to burn or targeting innocent cops? With the current climate, that what the Malcom X plan brings IMO