You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
@insinceredawg would give a million Chins for this type of validation from someone ... anyone ... please, guise?
He's a lefty partisan and won't deviate just like the others here on the right. As long as we as a country continue this, shit will never change. If we don't someday this country will elect an AOC and I certainly don't want that.
Reagan increased military spending exponentially. Doing so, brought Russia to their knees and saved the taxpayers money in the long run. That's why I purpose front loading education funding, in exchange for reducing anrd ultimately eliminating long term welfare. If individuals aren't willing to seize the opportunity afforded them, they can fuck off. We invest money in businesses and the stock market. Pay a dollar today for an ROI tomorrow. Why shouldn't we look at education the same? putting it on the states will never work. Someone will have to pay for it. I already pay enough in sales and property tax. Anyone who gets educational assistance would have to pay it back principal and interest through an additional payroll tax on them, only. If they make more money, they'll end up paying more in gross tax in the long run, too. Even at lower marginal rates, tax on $100,000 is certainly higher than tax paid by the minimum age worker or the street dealers who pay nothing at all. Providing all citizens based on family income better opportunity in the long run more than pays out. You'd see fewer politicians willing to support long term welfare, too. AOC won't but she becomes an outlier and you get more moderate votes, enough to get rid of long term welfare. I have ideas on reworking the tax structure too. Apple shouldn't get a free pass for building iPhones in China and selling them here and paying the same marginal rate as the small business job creators. I'm not talking about AOC and Bernie's plan of eliminating billionaires or corporate stock buybacks.
If Apple can't generate billions in profit, they won't hire as many workers, making fewer opportunities. Let them make their billions, levy the same marginal rate as the small business owner but make them pay a higher rate-- 35%? 40% on the top end.
It would be great paying little or no tax but defense spending, roads, bridges, essential infrastructure costs money. Somehow we have to pay for it
MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
OK
After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
Sadly, if people are being honest, most people assume they got there with help. If you were white, people would assume you hammered the SATs. If you're not, people assume you did "good enough" on the SATs and had a helping hand.
This is an argument against AA. When friends from college learned I got into some elite law schools, many of them said, "Oh, Georgetown must love you." Not, "you must have hammered the LSAT", which I did.
It's a subtle thing, but it's there. This and related experiences are why I changed my mind about "helping hand" programs years ago. It's a stigma that we place on the target population that keeps them somehow always keeps them in the category of the other people.
Even now: my kids are white and our last name is not stereotypical Hispanic (i.e., not "Sanchez"). Kid got into Brown, and many social reactions were, "Wow. And she's white."
It also tells some black kids they don't need to work as hard as other non-black kids in order to get into college. I've seen all of this first hand. You're already dealing with some teachers who aren't holding black kids, especially black male kids to the same academic standards as the white and Asian kids, and then those kids are being admitted to colleges with grades and test scores that are far lower than whites and Asians.
And the kids all know this. The black kids know that they can get a B on that test on in that class and they'll still be admitted to college. Human nature being what it is, some people, will do the bare minimum of what required to get what they want. I
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
He does. Because if I had penned even a fraction of your original post, I would have been hunted down for it for months.
MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
OK
After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
Ah yes, and the way you don't "turn a blind eye" is to handout Molotov cocktails
Speaking out, as Race said is not handing out Molotov cocktails. Inferring I said otherwise, is more strawman bullshit.
MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
OK
After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
Sadly, if people are being honest, most people assume they got there with help. If you were white, people would assume you hammered the SATs. If you're not, people assume you did "good enough" on the SATs and had a helping hand.
This is an argument against AA. When friends from college learned I got into some elite law schools, many of them said, "Oh, Georgetown must love you." Not, "you must have hammered the LSAT", which I did.
It's a subtle thing, but it's there. This and related experiences are why I changed my mind about "helping hand" programs years ago. It's a stigma that we place on the target population that keeps them somehow always keeps them in the category of the other people.
Even now: my kids are white and our last name is not stereotypical Hispanic (i.e., not "Sanchez"). Kid got into Brown, and many social reactions were, "Wow. And she's white."
It also tells some black kids they don't need to work as hard as other non-black kids in order to get into college. I've seen all of this first hand. You're already dealing with some teachers who aren't holding black kids, especially black male kids to the same academic standards as the white and Asian kids, and then those kids are being admitted to colleges with grades and test scores that are far lower than whites and Asians.
And the kids all know this. The black kids know that they can get a B on that test on in that class and they'll still be admitted to college. Human nature being what it is, some people, will do the bare minimum of what required to get what they want. I
And they carry that perception into professional life. It contributes to the perception that minorities are not as capable as whites in certain endeavors.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
You are definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other representations of "the left" in here.
Gonna challenge that a little bit. How so? Fuck, b4 today I had no idea what Baseman's politics were, and basically still don't other than on this issue.
Sure, Hondo and the other bots are stupid and annoying. That;s trolling. But Baseman's post, some of which I actually agree with him on, is a view, or series of views, that is normally TORN TO SHREDS in the Tug.
The only guy I've seen go after him hard are Damone and Bob.
Sorry, not sorry. This thread would normally go 20 pages long with colorful variations of "Fuck you" based on its content.
I'm fucking jealous and not going to take it anymore.
I myself dream of a day when a post is judged not by the identity of its poster, but by the content of its post.
My rule is if someone wants to engage and dips their toe in here let them breathe for awhile then go for the kill
There are people that come here to call out the Waco Kid and I am happy to oblige. Some folks just like to say fuck off all day. Some want to hear it from me. #badgeofhonor
I don't need to tell @Baseman to fuck off to disagree with him
If he started out - hey you white trash trumptard losers - then its on
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
He does. Because if I had penned even a fraction of your original post, I would have been hunted down for it for months.
MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
OK
After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
Sadly, if people are being honest, most people assume they got there with help. If you were white, people would assume you hammered the SATs. If you're not, people assume you did "good enough" on the SATs and had a helping hand.
This is an argument against AA. When friends from college learned I got into some elite law schools, many of them said, "Oh, Georgetown must love you." Not, "you must have hammered the LSAT", which I did.
It's a subtle thing, but it's there. This and related experiences are why I changed my mind about "helping hand" programs years ago. It's a stigma that we place on the target population that somehow always keeps them in the category of the other people.
Even now: my kids are white and our last name is not stereotypical Hispanic (i.e., not "Sanchez"). Kid got into Brown, and many social reactions were, "Wow. And she's white."
Look fuckhead - kidding
When I wrote that I thought of that young person of color being on an Ivy League campus due to rich parents and privilege like the white kids there. And the grades and SAT
AA isn't even a thing anymore legally. I get that the argument against it, one of them, was that when Blacks achieved it would be said to be because of AA. Media and entertainment enforced that while claiming to be against it
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
You are definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other representations of "the left" in here.
Gonna challenge that a little bit. How so? Fuck, b4 today I had no idea what Baseman's politics were, and basically still don't other than on this issue.
Sure, Hondo and the other bots are stupid and annoying. That;s trolling. But Baseman's post, some of which I actually agree with him on, is a view, or series of views, that is normally TORN TO SHREDS in the Tug.
The only guy I've seen go after him hard are Damone and Bob.
Sorry, not sorry. This thread would normally go 20 pages long with colorful variations of "Fuck you" based on its content.
I'm fucking jealous and not going to take it anymore.
I myself dream of a day when a post is judged not by the identity of its poster, but by the content of its post.
Disagree.
Baseman is a veteran of HH so doesn't let the "fuck you" shit bother him and just keeps on posting his point of view. I disagree with lots of what he's posting but he's doing so in good faith.
I can agree to disagree with people and have an earnest discussion with them. Baseman also comes off as open to listening and changing his mind on subjects as opposed to those who would rather double down when shown to be wrong on a subject...
I think this is exactly the opposite of what you are saying. His posting is being judged by it's motivation not by his identity.
TLDR he acts like an adult in the room even if his views don't fit with my(or the tug's) particular politics.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
You are definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other representations of "the left" in here.
Gonna challenge that a little bit. How so? Fuck, b4 today I had no idea what Baseman's politics were, and basically still don't other than on this issue.
Sure, Hondo and the other bots are stupid and annoying. That;s trolling. But Baseman's post, some of which I actually agree with him on, is a view, or series of views, that is normally TORN TO SHREDS in the Tug.
The only guy I've seen go after him hard are Damone and Bob.
Sorry, not sorry. This thread would normally go 20 pages long with colorful variations of "Fuck you" based on its content.
I'm fucking jealous and not going to take it anymore.
I myself dream of a day when a post is judged not by the identity of its poster, but by the content of its post.
My rule is if someone wants to engage and dips their toe in here let them breathe for awhile then go for the kill
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
@insinceredawg would give a million Chins for this type of validation from someone ... anyone ... please, guise?
He's a lefty partisan and won't deviate just like the others here on the right. As long as we as a country continue this, shit will never change. If we don't someday this country will elect an AOC and I certainly don't want that.
Reagan increased military spending exponentially. Doing so, brought Russia to their knees and saved the taxpayers money in the long run. That's why I purpose front loading education funding, in exchange for reducing anrd ultimately eliminating long term welfare. If individuals aren't willing to seize the opportunity afforded them, they can fuck off. We invest money in businesses and the stock market. Pay a dollar today for an ROI tomorrow. Why shouldn't we look at education the same? putting it on the states will never work. Someone will have to pay for it. I already pay enough in sales and property tax. Anyone who gets educational assistance would have to pay it back principal and interest through an additional payroll tax on them, only. If they make more money, they'll end up paying more in gross tax in the long run, too. Even at lower marginal rates, tax on $100,000 is certainly higher than tax paid by the minimum age worker or the street dealers who pay nothing at all. Providing all citizens based on family income better opportunity in the long run more than pays out. You'd see fewer politicians willing to support long term welfare, too. AOC won't but she becomes an outlier and you get more moderate votes, enough to get rid of long term welfare. I have ideas on reworking the tax structure too. Apple shouldn't get a free pass for building iPhones in China and selling them here and paying the same marginal rate as the small business job creators. I'm not talking about AOC and Bernie's plan of eliminating billionaires or corporate stock buybacks.
If Apple can't generate billions in profit, they won't hire as many workers, making fewer opportunities. Let them make their billions, levy the same marginal rate as the small business owner but make them pay a higher rate-- 35%? 40% on the top end.
It would be great paying little or no tax but defense spending, roads, bridges, essential infrastructure costs money. Somehow we have to pay for it
The problems with our educational system isn't a lack money. Again, it's intellectually lazy to post the crap you're posting. You're either ignoring the facts or you're ignorant of 50 years of real world evidence that shows lack of money isn't what's causing shitty grades and test scores.
He's a lefty partisan and won't deviate just like the others here on the right
Cant really agree with that. I’ve had heated debates with @SFGbob@RaceBannon and @Bendintheriver over the last 5 years on The Woodshed on various issues. I’ve never seen two liberal posters disagree on anything, let alone have an argument over it.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
You are definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other representations of "the left" in here.
Gonna challenge that a little bit. How so? Fuck, b4 today I had no idea what Baseman's politics were, and basically still don't other than on this issue.
Sure, Hondo and the other bots are stupid and annoying. That;s trolling. But Baseman's post, some of which I actually agree with him on, is a view, or series of views, that is normally TORN TO SHREDS in the Tug.
The only guy I've seen go after him hard are Damone and Bob.
Sorry, not sorry. This thread would normally go 20 pages long with colorful variations of "Fuck you" based on its content.
I'm fucking jealous and not going to take it anymore.
I myself dream of a day when a post is judged not by the identity of its poster, but by the content of its post.
My rule is if someone wants to engage and dips their toe in here let them breathe for awhile then go for the kill
Ruthless. You sure you're not a Cane?
You know I've always been a CANE fan when they aren't playing my DAWGS
I'm going to take this a different direction for a bit. The thread's been a great read.
"Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. "
This is one of the other problems that needs to be fixed in our society. That statement is a twitter headline but is actually factually not accurate at all.
No one cares to actually dig into the details. The twitter soundbites and the new media stoke the fires. A black man died/possibly was killed back in March by police. This was after he was high in a euphoric state and banging on the cop car and then fought with officers for a few minutes. The were 4 officers involved. They weren't all white, FYI. An investigation into this incident involving the Tacoma PD is being headed up by the Pierce County Sheriff's office. Both the Mayor of Tacoma, who happens to be african american, and the Pierce County Sheriff held press conferences yesterday to describe the situation and investigation.
Police encountered Ellis on his walk home at 11:22 p.m.
They say he was harassing a woman at the intersection of 96th Street South and Ainsworth Avenue and pounding on her car window. He also tried to open the doors of occupied vehicles, police said.
When two officers in the area asked him what he was doing, Ellis allegedly told them he had warrants and wanted to talk to them.
Then he repeatedly struck their patrol car.
The two officers inside notified dispatch they needed priority backup then got out of the car.
“He picked up the officer by his vest and slam-dunked him on the ground,” Ed Troyer, spokesman of the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department, which is investigating the incident, told The News Tribune on Tuesday. “He never tried to run, he engaged with the officers and started a fight.”
There was a struggle before police got Ellis handcuffed on the ground.
Officers called for paramedics at 11:25 p.m.
Within a minute of firefighters arriving on scene, Ellis stopped breathing and lost consciousness.
Paramedics performed CPR for 40 minutes, but he was pronounced dead at the scene, investigators said.
He’d been arrested in September for allegedly punching several employees at a fast-food restaurant before running outside, stripping off his clothes and sprinting down the street. Deputies used a stun gun in that case because he resisted arrest and struggled, court records say.
As for the bigger picture, totally agree with the situation african americans are in. We have to do better as a society. Absolutely.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
You are definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other representations of "the left" in here.
Gonna challenge that a little bit. How so? Fuck, b4 today I had no idea what Baseman's politics were, and basically still don't other than on this issue.
Sure, Hondo and the other bots are stupid and annoying. That;s trolling. But Baseman's post, some of which I actually agree with him on, is a view, or series of views, that is normally TORN TO SHREDS in the Tug.
The only guy I've seen go after him hard are Damone and Bob.
Sorry, not sorry. This thread would normally go 20 pages long with colorful variations of "Fuck you" based on its content.
I'm fucking jealous and not going to take it anymore.
I myself dream of a day when a post is judged not by the identity of its poster, but by the content of its post.
I went after him hard? How so?
I disagree that more government addresses the issues. Government is the problem. The solutions proposed are more government. It will make it worse.
MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
OK
After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
Sadly, if people are being honest, most people assume they got there with help. If you were white, people would assume you hammered the SATs. If you're not, people assume you did "good enough" on the SATs and had a helping hand.
This is an argument against AA. When friends from college learned I got into some elite law schools, many of them said, "Oh, Georgetown must love you." Not, "you must have hammered the LSAT", which I did.
It's a subtle thing, but it's there. This and related experiences are why I changed my mind about "helping hand" programs years ago. It's a stigma that we place on the target population that keeps them somehow always keeps them in the category of the other people.
Even now: my kids are white and our last name is not stereotypical Hispanic (i.e., not "Sanchez"). Kid got into Brown, and many social reactions were, "Wow. And she's white."
It also tells some black kids they don't need to work as hard as other non-black kids in order to get into college. I've seen all of this first hand. You're already dealing with some teachers who aren't holding black kids, especially black male kids to the same academic standards as the white and Asian kids, and then those kids are being admitted to colleges with grades and test scores that are far lower than whites and Asians.
And the kids all know this. The black kids know that they can get a B on that test on in that class and they'll still be admitted to college. Human nature being what it is, some people, will do the bare minimum of what required to get what they want. I
And they carry that perception into professional life. It contributes to the perception that minorities are not as capable as whites in certain endeavors.
Also for a kid that is prone to be a slacker like my oldest son, it's not a very good message to be sending. The teachers who thought they were doing him a favor by letting him slide really pissed my off and everyone of them were white liberal women.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
He does. Because if I had penned even a fraction of your original post, I would have been hunted down for it for months.
MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
OK
After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
Sadly, if people are being honest, most people assume they got there with help. If you were white, people would assume you hammered the SATs. If you're not, people assume you did "good enough" on the SATs and had a helping hand.
This is an argument against AA. When friends from college learned I got into some elite law schools, many of them said, "Oh, Georgetown must love you." Not, "you must have hammered the LSAT", which I did.
It's a subtle thing, but it's there. This and related experiences are why I changed my mind about "helping hand" programs years ago. It's a stigma that we place on the target population that somehow always keeps them in the category of the other people.
Even now: my kids are white and our last name is not stereotypical Hispanic (i.e., not "Sanchez"). Kid got into Brown, and many social reactions were, "Wow. And she's white."
Look fuckhead - kidding
When I wrote that I thought of that young person of color being on an Ivy League campus due to rich parents and privilege like the white kids there. And the grades and SAT
AA isn't even a thing anymore legally. I get that the argument against it, one of them, was that when Blacks achieved it would be said to be because of AA. Media and entertainment enforced that while claiming to be against it
I know. I was responding to the question posed by that poster you like more than me: how the AA kid got to the Ivy campus. And quotas are illegal; but taking diversity into consideration in admissions is not illegal unless you're in a state like Cali or Washington that has a law that applies to public schools saying you can't even do that. But privates can do it even in those states, and they do. I think Washington just repealed that law but I think it's still on the books in Cali.
Berkeley continues to get "caught" tripping the federal barrier that makes quotas unconstitutional. It's a splitting hairs issue, but as you might expect, schools use those cracks of daylight to do what they want to do.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?
It's an indictment of the entire white race
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Do you indict the entire black race?
Its textbook racism
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
I like having you here. No homo.
You are definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other representations of "the left" in here.
Gonna challenge that a little bit. How so? Fuck, b4 today I had no idea what Baseman's politics were, and basically still don't other than on this issue.
Sure, Hondo and the other bots are stupid and annoying. That;s trolling. But Baseman's post, some of which I actually agree with him on, is a view, or series of views, that is normally TORN TO SHREDS in the Tug.
The only guy I've seen go after him hard are Damone and Bob.
Sorry, not sorry. This thread would normally go 20 pages long with colorful variations of "Fuck you" based on its content.
I'm fucking jealous and not going to take it anymore.
I myself dream of a day when a post is judged not by the identity of its poster, but by the content of its post.
I went after him hard? How so?
I disagree that more government addresses the issues. Government is the problem. The solutions proposed are more government. It will make it worse.
You basically called out the entire premise of his post. Hard like that.
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Reagan increased military spending exponentially. Doing so, brought Russia to their knees and saved the taxpayers money in the long run. That's why I purpose front loading education funding, in exchange for reducing anrd ultimately eliminating long term welfare. If individuals aren't willing to seize the opportunity afforded them, they can fuck off. We invest money in businesses and the stock market. Pay a dollar today for an ROI tomorrow. Why shouldn't we look at education the same? putting it on the states will never work. Someone will have to pay for it. I already pay enough in sales and property tax. Anyone who gets educational assistance would have to pay it back principal and interest through an additional payroll tax on them, only. If they make more money, they'll end up paying more in gross tax in the long run, too. Even at lower marginal rates, tax on $100,000 is certainly higher than tax paid by the minimum age worker or the street dealers who pay nothing at all. Providing all citizens based on family income better opportunity in the long run more than pays out. You'd see fewer politicians willing to support long term welfare, too. AOC won't but she becomes an outlier and you get more moderate votes, enough to get rid of long term welfare. I have ideas on reworking the tax structure too. Apple shouldn't get a free pass for building iPhones in China and selling them here and paying the same marginal rate as the small business job creators. I'm not talking about AOC and Bernie's plan of eliminating billionaires or corporate stock buybacks.
If Apple can't generate billions in profit, they won't hire as many workers, making fewer opportunities. Let them make their billions, levy the same marginal rate as the small business owner but make them pay a higher rate-- 35%? 40% on the top end.
It would be great paying little or no tax but defense spending, roads, bridges, essential infrastructure costs money. Somehow we have to pay for it
And the kids all know this. The black kids know that they can get a B on that test on in that class and they'll still be admitted to college. Human nature being what it is, some people, will do the bare minimum of what required to get what they want. I
There are people that come here to call out the Waco Kid and I am happy to oblige. Some folks just like to say fuck off all day. Some want to hear it from me. #badgeofhonor
I don't need to tell @Baseman to fuck off to disagree with him
If he started out - hey you white trash trumptard losers - then its on
When I wrote that I thought of that young person of color being on an Ivy League campus due to rich parents and privilege like the white kids there. And the grades and SAT
AA isn't even a thing anymore legally. I get that the argument against it, one of them, was that when Blacks achieved it would be said to be because of AA. Media and entertainment enforced that while claiming to be against it
Baseman is a veteran of HH so doesn't let the "fuck you" shit bother him and just keeps on posting his point of view. I disagree with lots of what he's posting but he's doing so in good faith.
I can agree to disagree with people and have an earnest discussion with them. Baseman also comes off as open to listening and changing his mind on subjects as opposed to those who would rather double down when shown to be wrong on a subject...
I think this is exactly the opposite of what you are saying. His posting is being judged by it's motivation not by his identity.
TLDR he acts like an adult in the room even if his views don't fit with my(or the tug's) particular politics.
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/americas-most-costly-educational-failure
Cant really agree with that. I’ve had heated debates with @SFGbob @RaceBannon and @Bendintheriver over the last 5 years on The Woodshed on various issues. I’ve never seen two liberal posters disagree on anything, let alone have an argument over it.
"Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. "
This is one of the other problems that needs to be fixed in our society. That statement is a twitter headline but is actually factually not accurate at all.
No one cares to actually dig into the details. The twitter soundbites and the new media stoke the fires. A black man died/possibly was killed back in March by police. This was after he was high in a euphoric state and banging on the cop car and then fought with officers for a few minutes. The were 4 officers involved. They weren't all white, FYI. An investigation into this incident involving the Tacoma PD is being headed up by the Pierce County Sheriff's office. Both the Mayor of Tacoma, who happens to be african american, and the Pierce County Sheriff held press conferences yesterday to describe the situation and investigation.
Meanwhile twitter rages with inaccurate comments such as your opening statement above. Devoid of facts. In fact the tacoma news tribune had a story written by a reporter where all the talked about was the man who died and not the circumstances leading to his death. ( https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/matt-driscoll/article243245811.html#storylink=mainstage_card6 )
We need people to think. We need the press to do their jobs.
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article243210681.html#storylink=trendingstories
Police encountered Ellis on his walk home at 11:22 p.m.
They say he was harassing a woman at the intersection of 96th Street South and Ainsworth Avenue and pounding on her car window. He also tried to open the doors of occupied vehicles, police said.
When two officers in the area asked him what he was doing, Ellis allegedly told them he had warrants and wanted to talk to them.
Then he repeatedly struck their patrol car.
The two officers inside notified dispatch they needed priority backup then got out of the car.
“He picked up the officer by his vest and slam-dunked him on the ground,” Ed Troyer, spokesman of the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department, which is investigating the incident, told The News Tribune on Tuesday. “He never tried to run, he engaged with the officers and started a fight.”
There was a struggle before police got Ellis handcuffed on the ground.
Officers called for paramedics at 11:25 p.m.
Within a minute of firefighters arriving on scene, Ellis stopped breathing and lost consciousness.
Paramedics performed CPR for 40 minutes, but he was pronounced dead at the scene, investigators said.
He’d been arrested in September for allegedly punching several employees at a fast-food restaurant before running outside, stripping off his clothes and sprinting down the street. Deputies used a stun gun in that case because he resisted arrest and struggled, court records say.
As for the bigger picture, totally agree with the situation african americans are in. We have to do better as a society. Absolutely.
I disagree that more government addresses the issues. Government is the problem. The solutions proposed are more government. It will make it worse.
Berkeley continues to get "caught" tripping the federal barrier that makes quotas unconstitutional. It's a splitting hairs issue, but as you might expect, schools use those cracks of daylight to do what they want to do.