Black Lives Matter
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You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There arent many black people in WA state, periodBleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.
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This is a weird comment.PurpleThrobber said:
You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There arent many black people in WA state, periodBleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.
Im talking statistics in which case about 3 of every 100 residents are black in WA.
As opposed to 20-35 out of 100 in the south -
I was referencing the Pokeman 'catch a black friend'.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a weird comment.PurpleThrobber said:
You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There arent many black people in WA state, periodBleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.
Im talking statistics in which case about 3 of every 100 residents are black in WA.
As opposed to 20-35 out of 100 in the south
With benefits.
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Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap. -
Correct.RaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
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Ahhh haha gotcha. You're not wrong.PurpleThrobber said:
I was referencing the Pokeman 'catch a black friend'.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a weird comment.PurpleThrobber said:
You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There arent many black people in WA state, periodBleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.
Im talking statistics in which case about 3 of every 100 residents are black in WA.
As opposed to 20-35 out of 100 in the south
With benefits.
"I aint got no type..bad bitches is the only thing that I like" -
Very happy this thread is in the Tug, and not the Truck Stop.
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Malcolm X was a fucking badass who is spinning in his fucking graveRaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
Only critique I have is his Islamist stuff was misguided.
He saw that handouts do nothing but create reliance on the hand -
The worst beatdown I've ever witnessed was back in high school where the sisters laid the wood, kicking, scratching, eye-gouging, slamming the heads on the ground of white girl who took their BBC....PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ahhh haha gotcha. You're not wrong.PurpleThrobber said:
I was referencing the Pokeman 'catch a black friend'.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a weird comment.PurpleThrobber said:
You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There arent many black people in WA state, periodBleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.
Im talking statistics in which case about 3 of every 100 residents are black in WA.
As opposed to 20-35 out of 100 in the south
With benefits.
"I aint got no type..bad bitches is the only thing that I like"
Even the bruthas kind of turned a blind eye and kept walking.
Then I finger rolled on them.
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I prefaced as "Many black leaders", not all. I don't think it's a partisan issue. Both sides point fingers at the other. Each side is culpable.SFGbob said:
Obama used to do a little of that when he first started running for President. He got hammered by Jesse Jackson and the other racial hustlers and it was one of the key reasons why early on we were being treated to articles written by black people on whether Obama was really black or black enough. After Jesse attacked him for "blaming the victim" that part of Obama's message was shelved.Baseman said:
Yeah, they should and I think many black leaders have. But the media doesn't tell those stories.Bob_C said:
I’ll be nicer too, though I’ve never been mean either. Will that help with the systemic racism? Doubtful.Baseman said:
I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.WestlinnDuck said:I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.
Haven’t seen your response to should black leaders start calling out their own people for bad behavior that isn’t furthering the cause. Should they be doing that more?
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It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.RaceBannon said:
Do you indict the entire black race?Baseman said:
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.RaceBannon said:
It's an indictment of the entire white raceBaseman said:
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?MikeDamone said:
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”Baseman said:
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.MikeDamone said:I have a black friend.
Portland's finest killed a white dude 3 days ago.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
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They are racist and it sucks. It's circular on both sides. I've been discriminated and judged for being white. I don't like it. I don't pretend the race issue is easily solvable. It's an uncomfortable conversation, I think it's worth having.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
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You may think it isn't a partisan issue but it is. The race hustler crowd in the Rat party have made sure it's a partisan issue. Each side isn't responsible for shutting down and rejecting the personal responsibility message and it's lazy thinking and patently dishonest to claim that it is.Baseman said:
I prefaced as "Many black leaders", not all. I don't think it's a partisan issue. Both sides point fingers at the other. Each side is culpable.SFGbob said:
Obama used to do a little of that when he first started running for President. He got hammered by Jesse Jackson and the other racial hustlers and it was one of the key reasons why early on we were being treated to articles written by black people on whether Obama was really black or black enough. After Jesse attacked him for "blaming the victim" that part of Obama's message was shelved.Baseman said:
Yeah, they should and I think many black leaders have. But the media doesn't tell those stories.Bob_C said:
I’ll be nicer too, though I’ve never been mean either. Will that help with the systemic racism? Doubtful.Baseman said:
I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.WestlinnDuck said:I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.
Haven’t seen your response to should black leaders start calling out their own people for bad behavior that isn’t furthering the cause. Should they be doing that more? -
People mock the bell curve.Baseman said:
They are racist and it sucks. It's circular on both sides. I've been discriminated and judged for being white. I don't like it. I don't pretend the race issue is easily solvable. It's an uncomfortable conversation, I think it's worth having.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
Flock toward the center and life is a whole lot easier.
Better examples, less drama, more opportunity.
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He also called for violence against whites.RaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
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I'm confused it's not partisan but each side is responsible? What am I missing?SFGbob said:
You may think it isn't a partisan issue but it is. The race hustler crowd in the Rat party have made sure it's a partisan issue. Each side isn't responsible for shutting down and rejecting the personal responsibility message and it's lazy thinking and patently dishonest to claim that it is.Baseman said:
I prefaced as "Many black leaders", not all. I don't think it's a partisan issue. Both sides point fingers at the other. Each side is culpable.SFGbob said:
Obama used to do a little of that when he first started running for President. He got hammered by Jesse Jackson and the other racial hustlers and it was one of the key reasons why early on we were being treated to articles written by black people on whether Obama was really black or black enough. After Jesse attacked him for "blaming the victim" that part of Obama's message was shelved.Baseman said:
Yeah, they should and I think many black leaders have. But the media doesn't tell those stories.Bob_C said:
I’ll be nicer too, though I’ve never been mean either. Will that help with the systemic racism? Doubtful.Baseman said:
I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.WestlinnDuck said:I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.
Haven’t seen your response to should black leaders start calling out their own people for bad behavior that isn’t furthering the cause. Should they be doing that more?
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Agreed.PurpleThrobber said:
People mock the bell curve.Baseman said:
They are racist and it sucks. It's circular on both sides. I've been discriminated and judged for being white. I don't like it. I don't pretend the race issue is easily solvable. It's an uncomfortable conversation, I think it's worth having.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
Flock toward the center and life is a whole lot easier.
Better examples, less drama, more opportunity.
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Try reading less emoting.Baseman said:
I'm confused it's not partisan but each side is responsible? What am I missing?SFGbob said:
You may think it isn't a partisan issue but it is. The race hustler crowd in the Rat party have made sure it's a partisan issue. Each side isn't responsible for shutting down and rejecting the personal responsibility message and it's lazy thinking and patently dishonest to claim that it is.Baseman said:
I prefaced as "Many black leaders", not all. I don't think it's a partisan issue. Both sides point fingers at the other. Each side is culpable.SFGbob said:
Obama used to do a little of that when he first started running for President. He got hammered by Jesse Jackson and the other racial hustlers and it was one of the key reasons why early on we were being treated to articles written by black people on whether Obama was really black or black enough. After Jesse attacked him for "blaming the victim" that part of Obama's message was shelved.Baseman said:
Yeah, they should and I think many black leaders have. But the media doesn't tell those stories.Bob_C said:
I’ll be nicer too, though I’ve never been mean either. Will that help with the systemic racism? Doubtful.Baseman said:
I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.WestlinnDuck said:I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.
Haven’t seen your response to should black leaders start calling out their own people for bad behavior that isn’t furthering the cause. Should they be doing that more?
Each side isn't responsible for shutting down and rejecting the personal responsibility message -
Violence against whites when justifiedBaseman said:
He also called for violence against whites.RaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
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Fair enough. I'll go for that.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Violence against whites when justifiedBaseman said:
He also called for violence against whites.RaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
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I like having you here. No homo.Baseman said:
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.RaceBannon said:
Do you indict the entire black race?Baseman said:
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.RaceBannon said:
It's an indictment of the entire white raceBaseman said:
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?MikeDamone said:
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”Baseman said:
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.MikeDamone said:I have a black friend.
Portland's finest killed a white dude 3 days ago.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Its textbook racism -
When it was warranted and on the south in the 60's it was. The north tooBaseman said:
He also called for violence against whites.RaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
Times were different back then.
Black Panthers and Black Muslims with guns protected the community. Malcom said live in peace unless they put their hands on you. I have no problem with that -
MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
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I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Violence against whites when justifiedBaseman said:
He also called for violence against whites.RaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
Just a point of clarification. -
Oppressed Ivy League LawyerRaceBannon said:MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
OK
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Tequilla? That you?BleachedAnusDawg said:
Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Thoughts
1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.
2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation
3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.
No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.
4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?
Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd
5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.
Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County. -
He also went to Mecca and saw Muslims of all races which started him away from the Black Muslims to a different world view. Called out Elijah for being a pedophile and it cost him his lifeBendintheriver said:
I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Violence against whites when justifiedBaseman said:
He also called for violence against whites.RaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
Just a point of clarification. -
RaceBannon said:
I like having you here. No homo.Baseman said:
It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.RaceBannon said:
Do you indict the entire black race?Baseman said:
It is. We can say it's not fair, judging all whites for her actions. Maybe you wouldn't do that, but too many whites do. Blacks burning shit and looting isn't right, either.RaceBannon said:
It's an indictment of the entire white raceBaseman said:
What's your opinion of the white female executive with her dog in the park that called the cops and said a black man was threatening her life? you've seen the video?MikeDamone said:
“ Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy”Baseman said:
It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.MikeDamone said:I have a black friend.
Portland's finest killed a white dude 3 days ago.
You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.
Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.
Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.
Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.
Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.
I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
You’re part of the problem if you think the problem is rich white women.
Again, I would hope we all raise the level but I can't change you. I'm bothered I haven't done more. I'd fight for our country but why haven't I stood up for black Americans? That troubles me. Not your problem, it's on me.
Its textbook racism
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I saw that and stand corrected.Bendintheriver said:
I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Violence against whites when justifiedBaseman said:
He also called for violence against whites.RaceBannon said:Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism
For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them
I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.
I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.
I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years
Talk is cheap.
Just a point of clarification.
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MLK gets all the pub. The speeches were nice, the message inspiring. It hasn't changed shit. I don't know that I'm good with giving blacks a free pass on killing whitey. Most of these incidents have started with the black man committing the crime. If a black man pulls a gun and an officer justifiably shoots and kills him, is it alright for cities to burn or targeting innocent cops? With the current climate, that what the Malcom X plan brings IMORaceBannon said:MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO
A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.
OK
