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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter

    Thoughts

    1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.

    2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation

    3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.

    No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.

    4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?

    Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd

    5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.

    Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?

    Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
    There arent many black people in WA state, period

    That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
    You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?

    It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,679

    Thoughts

    1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.

    2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation

    3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.

    No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.

    4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?

    Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd

    5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.

    Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?

    Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
    There arent many black people in WA state, period

    That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
    You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?

    It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.

    This is a weird comment.

    Im talking statistics in which case about 3 of every 100 residents are black in WA.

    As opposed to 20-35 out of 100 in the south
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter

    Thoughts

    1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.

    2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation

    3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.

    No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.

    4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?

    Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd

    5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.

    Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?

    Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
    There arent many black people in WA state, period

    That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
    You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?

    It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.

    This is a weird comment.

    Im talking statistics in which case about 3 of every 100 residents are black in WA.

    As opposed to 20-35 out of 100 in the south
    I was referencing the Pokeman 'catch a black friend'.

    With benefits.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter

    Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism

    For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them

    I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.

    I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.

    I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years

    Talk is cheap.

    Correct.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,679

    Thoughts

    1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.

    2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation

    3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.

    No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.

    4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?

    Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd

    5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.

    Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?

    Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
    There arent many black people in WA state, period

    That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
    You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?

    It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.

    This is a weird comment.

    Im talking statistics in which case about 3 of every 100 residents are black in WA.

    As opposed to 20-35 out of 100 in the south
    I was referencing the Pokeman 'catch a black friend'.

    With benefits.
    Ahhh haha gotcha. You're not wrong.

    "I aint got no type..bad bitches is the only thing that I like"
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Very happy this thread is in the Tug, and not the Truck Stop.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,679

    Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism

    For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them

    I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.

    I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.

    I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years

    Talk is cheap.

    Malcolm X was a fucking badass who is spinning in his fucking grave

    Only critique I have is his Islamist stuff was misguided.

    He saw that handouts do nothing but create reliance on the hand
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter

    Thoughts

    1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.

    2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation

    3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a spectre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.

    No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.

    4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?

    Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd

    5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.

    Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?

    Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
    There arent many black people in WA state, period

    That statement was hyperbolic. Obviously friends arent a game of Pokemon where you try to catch one from each eace.
    You don't have any background with high school girls, do you?

    It actually is kind of a badge of honor to take the BBC.

    This is a weird comment.

    Im talking statistics in which case about 3 of every 100 residents are black in WA.

    As opposed to 20-35 out of 100 in the south
    I was referencing the Pokeman 'catch a black friend'.

    With benefits.
    Ahhh haha gotcha. You're not wrong.

    "I aint got no type..bad bitches is the only thing that I like"
    The worst beatdown I've ever witnessed was back in high school where the sisters laid the wood, kicking, scratching, eye-gouging, slamming the heads on the ground of white girl who took their BBC....

    Even the bruthas kind of turned a blind eye and kept walking.

    Then I finger rolled on them.



  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379
    SFGbob said:

    Baseman said:

    Bob_C said:

    Baseman said:

    I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.

    I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.
    I’ll be nicer too, though I’ve never been mean either. Will that help with the systemic racism? Doubtful.

    Haven’t seen your response to should black leaders start calling out their own people for bad behavior that isn’t furthering the cause. Should they be doing that more?
    Yeah, they should and I think many black leaders have. But the media doesn't tell those stories.
    Obama used to do a little of that when he first started running for President. He got hammered by Jesse Jackson and the other racial hustlers and it was one of the key reasons why early on we were being treated to articles written by black people on whether Obama was really black or black enough. After Jesse attacked him for "blaming the victim" that part of Obama's message was shelved.
    I prefaced as "Many black leaders", not all. I don't think it's a partisan issue. Both sides point fingers at the other. Each side is culpable.