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Black Lives Matter

BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367
Simple fact.

I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.
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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2020
    If we finally took down the statues then everything would be ok

    That said, as I traveled to the south I found the confederate monuments wired. But again. Work big to small.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    Thoughts

    1. Black Lives Matter. Saying otherwise is ignorant, BLM isnt saying ONLY black lives matter. Some people need to learn the difference.

    2. That is an interesting point you bring up about the Confederate statues. It's usually an issue I dont care about being a PNW native far removed, but I see where youre coming from. Statues are typically reserved for those on the right side of history. Not all Confederates owned slaves or were fighting for for slavery, but still not a great look to lobby for their creation

    3. Stop with the "my forefathers did something bad" sob story. This is fucking embarassing. The past should be learned from, not a sepctre that looms over everything. History is full of butchery, slavery, rape, and misery. Every culture had those horrible things. You say your ancestors chained and enslaved...who sold the slaves to them? It was other Africans selling those conquered in war.

    No culture has an innocent past so stop with the grovelling.

    4. The cities with the worst looting (like Minneapolis) have been run by the self proclaimed allies of black people for 50 years. Are things better in those cities now than they were 50 years ago?

    Maybe, just maybe, politicians are charlatans and the whole system needs a revamp, and not just because of the murder of George Floyd

    5. The "I have black friends" talking point is fucking cringe. Almost everyone does that isnt a racist piece of shit.

    I have nothing to grovel for and the black friends mantra is cringe worthy.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,411 Founders Club
    Stats are out there. I'm sure they've been rehashed here a few times. They don't show a racist, oppresive country where you'll get shot or choked if you go outside. Anyone can pick out incidents.

    Useful idiots riot, burn, loot, and buy into the narrative. It's all about emtion and feelings, not facts.

    It's about government control, sure, but it's also divide and conquer, same as it ever was. Some dude from high school I barely knew laid into me on Fagbook because I pointed out the hypocrisy of these protests being endorsed while the rednecks who protested got shamed and were called murderers by cuck boys, Karens, and kunts on social media. Now they've done an about face. Interesting.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,868 Swaye's Wigwam
    No one is for cops killing black people. No one in reality is against black people succeeding. It’s all profiling, profiling isn’t racism. Black people are treated differently because of the quick probabilities that people do in their heads, based on real risk math or at least perceived real math. If it’s perceived, that will reverse itself over time as it’s earned, go earn it by exceeding expectations. No one is going to give it to you, though many that don’t actually have black societies best interests at heart will claim to be able to do so. No legislation or protesting or decrees or leadership will change that instant calculation in the short term. It sucks for many, but it’s reality and the only answer to any of this.

    Is that racist?
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,068
    edited June 2020
    50 percent of violent crime

    Therefore if there are two black dudes I'm 100 percent going to be a victim of violent crime

    I don't like those odds. Case closed.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    I have a black friend.

    Portland's finest killed a white dude 3 days ago.

    You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.

    Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.

    Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.

    It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.

    Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.

    Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.

    I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    50 percent of violent crime

    Therefore if there are two black dudes I'm 100 percent going to be a victim of violent crime

    I don't like those odds. Case closed.

    Wrong. Here you go. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

    https://eji.org/news/sentencing-commission-finds-black-men-receive-longer-sentences/
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367
    edited June 2020
    Bob_C said:

    No one is for cops killing black people. No one in reality is against black people succeeding. It’s all profiling, profiling isn’t racism. Black people are treated differently because of the quick probabilities that people do in their heads, based on real risk math or at least perceived real math. If it’s perceived, that will reverse itself over time as it’s earned, go earn it by exceeding expectations. No one is going to give it to you, though many that don’t actually have black societies best interests at heart will claim to be able to do so. No legislation or protesting or decrees or leadership will change that instant calculation in the short term. It sucks for many, but it’s reality and the only answer to any of this.

    Is that racist?

    Yes it is. Perceived real math?

    It's not about giving blacks something other than their rightful equal place at the starting line.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    If we finally took down the statues then everything would be ok

    That said, as I traveled to the south I found the confederate monuments wired. But again. Work big to small.

    Nope but it's a small step, one of many needed. By itself, only a faux feel good bandaid.
  • OneNippleOneNipple Member Posts: 181
    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    How about a casino in every inner city? Gives me a choice where to donate and drink.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    You’all better not be disrespectful to our flag now
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,068
    The problem is that it's cool to be a gangbanger and nerdy to do well at things.


    How do you fix that
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,486 Founders Club

    End the war on drugs. demilitarize the police.

    Without Bias the 30 for 30 shows that the 86 overdose of Len Bias was the catalyst for the first round of bad drug laws that mandated prison for low level offenders

    And then more was added on
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    End the war on drugs. demilitarize the police.

    + civil asset forfeiture
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    Stats are out there. I'm sure they've been rehashed here a few times. They don't show a racist, oppresive country where you'll get shot or choked if you go outside. Anyone can pick out incidents.

    Useful idiots riot, burn, loot, and buy into the narrative. It's all about emtion and feelings, not facts.

    It's about government control, sure, but it's also divide and conquer, same as it ever was. Some dude from high school I barely knew laid into me on Fagbook because I pointed out the hypocrisy of these protests being endorsed while the rednecks who protested got shamed and were called murderers by cuck boys, Karens, and kunts on social media. Now they've done an about face. Interesting.

    Maybe we could elect a black president! That should help!
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,168 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    I have a black friend.

    Portland's finest killed a white dude 3 days ago.

    You should take a shit on a cop car and flip off some black cops. Maybe post a black square somewhere.

    Or cut the bullshit and start fighting the real issue. Government overreach, power, and the bulldozing of the individual.

    Leftist control of the education system. The racism industrial complex, the war on poverty, the mocking of the family structure and fathers, personal responsibility being ridiculed, all major cities being controlled by leftists for years and years. Keep doing that. It's working so well.

    It's not a leftist issue. It's not a republican issue. It's an us issue. Lefty Joe Biden is every bit the racist, maybe more so than the guys on the right. The lefty hypocrisy is as real as the right. Trump is a racist. He did the right thing denouncing the Minesota Cops but then he slipped right back into his old ways.

    Governments don't decide to pull blacks over for driving through white neighborhoods, spoiled white rich entitled bitch calling the cops because a black guy asked her to obey the law and put her dog on a leash is only one of many. Firing that lying bitch is a start. This racist shit is everywhere. Shitting on cop cars is a byproduct of the imbalance. It's fucking gross and disrespectful. That bitch is as much of the problem. In the last 20 years our country suddenly got religion for lesbians and gays. Why have the majority moved so fast protecting them, propagandizing them and leaving our black bro's and sisters behind.

    Black soldiers fought and died for our freedom. World War 2. Korea. Nam An old black guy I knew lied about his age to enlist during WW2. Said he was 18 when he was only 16. Landed at Normandy on D-day +1, went inland and faught the Nazis in the hedgerows. He came home and was called a nigger. He was from Alabama and couldn't take a piss in the whiteman's bathroom. He never said shit to me about it because he was old school and sucked it up. He didn't shit on cars. He didn't throw molotov cocktails at cops. He put his life on the line for the freedom we enjoye. He proudly served our country. Makes me sick thinking of what he and others blacks went though. The overwhelming majority of them have taken the whiteman's shit and wore it without fighting back. Today there are still golf clubs that exclude rich black folks and jews from joining their clubs.

    I'm late to the party but I'm here. Pointing fingers only shifts the blame.
    "Trump is a racist."

    Ha ha ha....from the guy who two days ago said this wasn't about racism.

    "Leave".
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,752 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    End the war on drugs. demilitarize the police.

    Without Bias the 30 for 30 shows that the 86 overdose of Len Bias was the catalyst for the first round of bad drug laws that mandated prison for low level offenders

    And then more was added on
    Lenny Bias > Jordan > Lebron

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