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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,653 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.

    I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.
    It's not splitting hairs. Illegitimacy is the problem. It's a problem that no one on the left wants to deal with except for Planned Parenthood. How hard is it to get basically free birth control? White privilege is basically about the advantageous of a society of nuclear families.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,653 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.

    I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.
    It's not splitting hairs. Illegitimacy is the problem. It's a problem that no one on the left wants to deal with except for Planned Parenthood. How hard is it to get basically free birth control? White privilege is basically about the advantageous of a society of nuclear families.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,653 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.

    I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.
    It's not splitting hairs. Illegitimacy is the problem. It's a problem that no one on the left wants to deal with except for Planned Parenthood. How hard is it to get basically free birth control? White privilege is basically about the advantageous of a society of nuclear families.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,653 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.

    I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.
    It's not splitting hairs. Illegitimacy is the problem. It's a problem that no one on the left wants to deal with except for Planned Parenthood. How hard is it to get basically free birth control? White privilege is basically about the advantageous of a society of nuclear families.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    It's not splitting hairs. Illegitimacy is the problem. It's a problem that no one on the left wants to deal with except for Planned Parenthood. How hard is it to get basically free birth control? White privilege is basically about the advantageous of a society of nuclear families.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sounds like we’re not splitting hairs
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,034

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle POTD
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter
    BearsWiin said:

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle POTD
    Would you mind going back where you came from and sucking there instead of here? Thanks.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO

    A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.

    OK

    After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
    Sadly, if people are being honest, most people assume they got there with help. If you were white, people would assume you hammered the SATs. If you're not, people assume you did "good enough" on the SATs and had a helping hand.

    This is an argument against AA. When friends from college learned I got into some elite law schools, many of them said, "Oh, Georgetown must love you." Not, "you must have hammered the LSAT", which I did.

    It's a subtle thing, but it's there. This and related experiences are why I changed my mind about "helping hand" programs years ago. It's a stigma that we place on the target population that somehow always keeps them in the category of the other people.

    Even now: my kids are white and our last name is not stereotypical Hispanic (i.e., not "Sanchez"). Kid got into Brown, and many social reactions were, "Wow. And she's white."
    Education costs way to much. Yes, I have a dog in the fight. I make a lot of money but sending my kids through college today is fucking killing me. My kids got good grades but not good enough for any merit based scholarships. A 3.5 GPA and decent test scores doesn't guarantee you get accepted at UW today. I'm paying full retail because too many Chinese and Indians are paying retail. They also raise the average GPA, hence the lower acceptance rates. Laying down the law to your kids to work hard in school is one thing, putting them in the pressure cooker like Asian families do to their kids, I refuse to do.

    My education argument gives equal opportunity to all lower middle income families. Obviously the more you make, the less you get. Any subsidies have to be contingent on degrees that offer marketable skills. Using tax payer money for sociology and philosophy degrees are non-starters for me.
    Forget the guaranttee; it won't get you into UW if diversity is not on your application.

    And you are preaching to the choir. I am close to wrapping up two kids attending fancy schmancy liberal arts colleges in New England. The kind with > $1 billion endowments. Merit scholarships are limited and generally unheard of. Why, with all that money, you ask? Because they want the best and brightest, and they know if you applied and were good enough to get in, you're coming if your parents can pay. They also know that if you applied, good enough to get in and your parents can't pay that you're not coming because you can't pull it out of your ass. They save all that money "competing" for students with merit and give it to the kids who need it.

    So, if you make over $X, and I do, you're paying full freight baby - $60K + a year full freight. Ask @DuckHHunterisafag what I'm talking about. He's doing it too.

    In some ways, it's better ... there's more money for the kids for whom it's otherwise impossible to finance. But it hits upper middle class people very hard. I've basically got a couple of Ferraris I never got to drive.

    The trick to this philanthropy model is to be elite enough that the kids and their families will send them anyway, and why that is would occupy another thread. My kid got into UW Honors college and said no so that I could pay out of my ass somewhere else.

    This is also a more broadly complicated issue, because whether we admit it out loud or not, we, in the US, like the freedom to be different and chase the brass ring, whatever that means to us. So if I have to pay out of my ass in taxes to help make all the schools more level, I lose the freedom to send my kids to what I perceive to be a superior place. Is that the answer? Maybe, but there will be resistance.

    Btw, I agree with a lot of your post. The kids are home and we had a lot of discussion about this last night. There is something going on with our black community and, while things have ostensibly improved, there are issues that remain to be examined and understood.lockquote>

    To my baseman critique. If the answer is taxes, government programs, regulations, and laws.....that’s what caused a lot of the issue in the first place. Wars or poverty and drugs. They will certainly fuck any “help” that they try to heap on this as a solution.

    How about less regulation? Why does anyone need to jump through hoops of fire to start a business. Why does a woman (or man) need to pay the government thousands to do hair?
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited June 2020
    BearsWiin said:

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle POTD
    It stands for ArmaLite Rifle-15. What’s your point? How do you not know this, Housewife?
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    Baseman said:

    I just hear that their life is harder. Sure, if you are a child of a single parent your life is going to be harder. That's true if you are black or white. I'd start with telling anyone who wants a better life for them and their kids is not to have kids until they are married, stay married, get a job and make sure your kids get an education. For some reason, I'm not hearing that coming from anyone on the nightly news of the "mostly peaceful protests". If you bring up the black illegitimacy rate that is per se racist in 2020 just as it was when Moynihan wrote about it in 1965. When abolishing the police is touted as a solution the touters ain't serious. When a black male can boast to his peer group about the amount the number of illegitimate kids he has - what is your solution on fixing that? What do I have to do with the death of George Floyd? I'm not a Minnesota democrat. I don't support the police union. I support tuition vouchers allowing those who want to to be able to escape the hell hole of the inner city school system. Destroying a culture is a lot easier than fixing a culture. Especially, when that culture wants to put the blame on someone else.

    I agree, single parents, white or black, naturally have a rougher go. You're splitting hairs, though, focusing on illegitimate kids. I'm talking about the bigger picture as a whole. Again, what you chose to do --if anything is up -- to you.
    It's not splitting hairs. Illegitimacy is the problem. It's a problem that no one on the left wants to deal with except for Planned Parenthood. How hard is it to get basically free birth control? White privilege is basically about the advantageous of a society of nuclear families.
    PART of the problem, yes. I'm down for free birth control.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    Yeah, but still
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    Yeah, but still
    A market requires a buyer and seller.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,732 Swaye's Wigwam
    BearsWiin said:

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle POTD
    "I don't like the truth because it doesn't fit my narrative" POTD
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,732 Swaye's Wigwam

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    Yeah, but still
    A market requires a buyer and seller.
    Wait until Baseman and Bearswiin finds out about the modern slavery going on today in north africa or the middle east
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,533 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism

    For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them

    I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.

    I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.

    I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years

    Talk is cheap.

    He also called for violence against whites.
    Violence against whites when justified


    I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.

    Just a point of clarification.
    I saw that and stand corrected.
    There is a PLSS joke here somewhere.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    Yeah, but still
    A market requires a buyer and seller.
    Wait until Baseman and Bearswiin finds out about the modern slavery going on today in north africa or the middle east
    I'm not a citizen in either country, nor do I have any interest in becoming one. I'm talking about helping our own.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367
    Swaye said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Someday I may right a long self serving letter to America about how I am AGAINST racism

    For now I'll say that even a shitty dad like me made a huge difference in our son's life simply by being there and showing that if you go to work every day you can provide for your family. His mama beat the bad out of him and every time the report came home I cringed. He told me his friend were saying he was acting white. I asked to speak to them since I did coach the 8th grade basketball team and knew them

    I gave the America is not about black or white its about green speech that ranks second only to I have a dream. I said fellas the object is to make money and education helps that and if that is acting white then the Klan couldn't come up with a better plan to keep you down.

    I also think Malcom X is 100 times better than today's so called Black leaders. He would never beg or ask to be equal. He knew he was. He didn't pine for integration he wanted Black business and power. He didn't need Whitey's permission.

    I took a Black Studies class at UW in 1975 before most of you woke motherfuckers were born. We've been having a discussion about race for 50 years

    Talk is cheap.

    He also called for violence against whites.
    Violence against whites when justified


    I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.

    Just a point of clarification.
    I saw that and stand corrected.
    There is a PLSS joke here somewhere.
    My grandmother was in a wheelchair but that's a story for the Autzen thread
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,732 Swaye's Wigwam
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Simple fact.

    I've got lots of black friends. My black and Samoan teammates all had my back. more than the white guys. No one gives a shit. I am white and I am privileged.

    Tacoma's finest killed another black man today. It's bullshit and it's my obligation to go further than saying All Lives Matter. I'm not talking slave reparations but I'm acknowledging blacks have been fucked over for too long. Hitler and the Nazis are a big and fascinating part of history but you don't see statutes of Hitler, Goering, and Himmler in Berlin. No one who lobbied for keeping Confederate statues should be considered very fine people.

    I'd happily sign up to kill Jew exterminating Nazis. Dark Americans deserve better than the shit this country has dealt them from the day our forefathers chained the Africans up and shanghaied them to America. Our grandfathers enlisted in mass when the Japanese bombed our boys at Peal Harbor, why aren't we doing the same for our black brothers?

    I don't know what to do but I need to do more. We all should.

    Good post, except for this revisionist history. Our forefathers bought and sold them at auctions in the Caribbean or on the West Coast shores of Africa from slave traders who bought them from kings, princes, and rival tribes in Africa. That's right, but for the extremely rare capture of slaves from small villages, they were sold by rival tribes and their own kings, which may or may not be morally worse than white men capturing them like animals. But that ain't the way it went down in 99% of the cases.
    Yeah, but still
    A market requires a buyer and seller.
    Wait until Baseman and Bearswiin finds out about the modern slavery going on today in north africa or the middle east
    I'm not a citizen in either country, nor do I have any interest in becoming one. I'm talking about helping our own.
    I know, but your OP made a big deal about that stuff from hundreds of years ago, when the same thing is going on today but no one gives a shit because its not white people doing it

    Same with the Uighur cultural/actual genocide in China. No one gives a fuck, especially not the American left who is so fond of offshoring labor to a morally bankrupt authoritarian hellhole
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