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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,660 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    It's not that I indicte them. I'd be lying, though, if I don't have an initial bias, just for a split section. I think if we're honest, most of us do. It doesn't color my actions. I certainly don't take Sleepy Joe's view he's better a choice for blacks than Trump. This is a message bored conversation.
    I like having you here. No homo.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,660 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    He also called for violence against whites.
    When it was warranted and on the south in the 60's it was. The north too

    Times were different back then.

    Black Panthers and Black Muslims with guns protected the community. Malcom said live in peace unless they put their hands on you. I have no problem with that
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,660 Founders Club
    edited June 2020
    MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO

    A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.

    OK
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO

    A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.

    OK

    Oppressed Ivy League Lawyer


  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,008

    Tried to make friends with some black kids in 5th/6th grade years during integrated busing in the city and got nothing but shit talking and a couple punches for being a white boy who was better than most of the kids at basketball. Tried again years later by walking in to Larry's Night Club in Pioneer Square (the place where Ken Hamlin took a street sign to the head) and was surprised I made it out alive. I wonder if black people who don't have white friends are also racist pieces of shit?

    Yes, this comment is a little too literal, but you took a talking point that is ridiculous to use as a qualifier for someone to prove they're not racist and then used it in the inverse to make an equally ridiculous statement. There aren't many black people in Kitsap County.
    Tequilla? That you?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,660 Founders Club
    edited June 2020

    I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.

    Just a point of clarification.
    He also went to Mecca and saw Muslims of all races which started him away from the Black Muslims to a different world view. Called out Elijah for being a pedophile and it cost him his life
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,369

    I like having you here. No homo.

  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,369

    I just finished a book on Malcolm X. Early on you are correct in his stance on violence against whitey but toward the end of his life he seemed to be advocating that violence only in cases of self defense.

    Just a point of clarification.
    I saw that and stand corrected.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,369

    MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO

    A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.

    OK

    MLK gets all the pub. The speeches were nice, the message inspiring. It hasn't changed shit. I don't know that I'm good with giving blacks a free pass on killing whitey. Most of these incidents have started with the black man committing the crime. If a black man pulls a gun and an officer justifiably shoots and kills him, is it alright for cities to burn or targeting innocent cops? With the current climate, that what the Malcom X plan brings IMO
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,008
    Baseman said:


    He does. Because if I had penned even a fraction of your original post, I would have been hunted down for it for months.

    #favorites #whydoesracehateme #hurtsmyfeelings #iRubiDawgthewrongway
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Baseman said:


    @insinceredawg would give a million Chins for this type of validation from someone ... anyone ... please, guise?
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,369

    MLK made us feel good. Malcom X scared us. Today its just ridiculous IMO

    A young person of color on an Ivy League campus talking about the struggle.

    OK

    After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Baseman said:

    MLK gets all the pub. The speeches were nice, the message inspiring. It hasn't changed shit. I don't know that I'm good with giving blacks a free pass on killing whitey. Most of these incidents have started with the black man committing the crime. If a black man pulls a gun and an officer justifiably shoots and kills him, is it alright for cities to burn or targeting innocent cops? With the current climate, that what the Malcom X plan brings IMO
    You have to be pretty ignorant to say that things haven't dramatically changed for the better for black Americans since 1968 and King's death.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Baseman said:

    After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
    Ah yes, and the way you don't "turn a blind eye" is to handout Molotov cocktails
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,008
    edited June 2020
    Baseman said:

    After reading the first, paragraph I was ready to chin. The Ivy league AA is winning. Do we know how they got there? Speaking out is more for the brothers and sisters which I respect. Turning a blind eye, makes the Ivy league AA a selfish hypocrite.
    Sadly, if people are being honest, most people assume they got there with help. If you were white, people would assume you hammered the SATs. If you're not, people assume you did "good enough" on the SATs and had a helping hand.

    This is an argument against AA. When friends from college learned I got into some elite law schools, many of them said, "Oh, Georgetown must love you." Not, "you must have hammered the LSAT", which I did.

    It's a subtle thing, but it's there. This and related experiences are why I changed my mind about "helping hand" programs years ago. It's a stigma that we place on the target population that somehow always keeps them in the category of the other people.

    Even now: my kids are white and our last name is not stereotypical Hispanic (i.e., not "Sanchez"). Kid got into Brown, and many social reactions were, "Wow. And she's white."
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,618

    Sadly, if people are being honest, most people assume they got there with help. If you were white, people would assume you hammered the SATs. If you're not, people assume you did "good enough" on the SATs and had a helping hand.

    This is an argument against AA. When friends from college learned I got into some elite law schools, many of them said, "Oh, Georgetown must love you." Not, "you must have hammered the LSAT", which I did.

    It's a subtle thing, but it's there. This and related experiences are why I changed my mind about "helping hand" programs years ago. It's a stigma that we place on the target population that keeps them somehow always keeps them in the category of the other people.

    Even now: my kids are white and our last name is not stereotypical Hispanic (i.e., not "Sanchez"). Kid got into Brown, and many social reactions were, "Wow. And she's white."
    Your swarthiness is no more
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,815 Swaye's Wigwam
    Baseman said:


    You are definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other representations of "the left" in here.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,008
    edited June 2020

    You are definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the other representations of "the left" in here.
    Gonna challenge that a little bit. How so? Fuck, b4 today I had no idea what Baseman's politics were, and basically still don't other than on this issue.

    Sure, Hondo and the other bots are stupid and annoying. That;s trolling. But Baseman's post, some of which I actually agree with him on, is a view, or series of views, that is normally TORN TO SHREDS in the Tug.

    The only guy I've seen go after him hard are Damone and Bob.

    Sorry, not sorry. This thread would normally go 20 pages long with colorful variations of "Fuck you" based on its content.

    I'm fucking jealous and not going to take it anymore.

    I myself dream of a day when a post is judged not by the identity of its poster, but by the content of its post.
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