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creepycoug
creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
is maintaining loyalty Trump's achilles heel? Mad Dog kept a low profile after his departure. Now he's popping off even without a Rose Bowl.

But does it matter? For the first tim, I'm actually starting to wonder if Trump is vulnerable, even against a complete fucking retard like Biden.

I didn't think the virus would do it. That felt foisted upon us all; and even though I couldn't settle on a view about whether Trump was doing a good job leading us through it (because sometimes I thought he was and other times not), I really didn't think the Hong Kong Flu was going to do him in. Something like a pandemic is intractable and the entire world was dealing with it in a global shit show.

But this thing now is entirely domestic and we?, the country, own it, for better or for worse. Now you have MD talking shit about Trump being divisive. It's early June. We're all going to blink and it's BOOM, we're in late August and everyone's attention will be on that big shift into life in the Fall.

I'm guessing this will all die down, and America's ridiculously short attention span will help Trump in that it'll be behind us by then. If the economy is back en fuego at that poont, I think he beats the Bidentard despite the stumbling. If not, then his foibles could catch up to him. Ironically, I don't think it'll be his best policies that will help him at that point because his best policies are somewhat of an abstraction for the average American. I also think running a heavy handed police force to manage this crisis will be forgiven, too, because the truth is, when the shit hits the fan, the average dip shit wants someone to handle it. The things we toss around here about statists is also an abstraction to the average American. I don't think they'll care. And for Trump to lose, he has to lose part of his base.
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Mattis resigned/was fired because he disagreed with Drumpf’s decision to not go to war in Syria and to bring troops home from Afghanistan. What makes me laugh is The Left now backing Warmonger Mattis who wanted to kill more brown people in the Middle East. Mattis is a military-industrial complex puppet and they aren’t happy they haven’t got more war. Suddenly the Tug Corona Bros agree with Mattis, who wanted to kill more brown people but the racist Drumpf said no.

    Does that answer your question?

    https://www.npr.org/2018/12/20/623246756/defense-secretary-mattis-to-retire-in-february-trump-says

    Defense Secretary Mattis Resigns Amid Syria And Afghanistan Tension

    December 20, 20185:31 PM ET
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,815 Founders Club
    You have two choices in this election same as last

    Trump voters are no different than any other voter.

    If you think Biden is the answer and he gets elected I wont spend 4 years attacking you and calling you vile names

    Can't say the same about Biden

    Payback is a bitch
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Trump was elected because people are sick of the DC establishment. Career warmongers like Mattis and Biden aren’t going to make their case easily.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    You have two choices in this election same as last

    Trump voters are no different than any other voter.

    If you think Biden is the answer and he gets elected I wont spend 4 years attacking you and calling you vile names

    Can't say the same about Biden

    Payback is a bitch

    I knew BO was the most corrupt President in the history of the country. The facts have shown the light on that. Only a rat liar denies it.

    However I never called a dem voter or in the case of BO, a Rep voter, a racist. I never set things on fire, beat innocent Americans half to death, killed people, shot people, pulled people out of their cars and beat them, kicked anyone out of an establishment because they had a BO hat or T-Shirt on, travelled around the world telling foreigners how bad our President was, lie and then try to impeach BO, twice.

    That is uniquely democrat behavior.
    Actually, you do that daily for stretches at a time.

    As for the rest of your representations, I'll just have to take your word for it; because you seem like the zealous type to me.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    Mattis resigned/was fired because he disagreed with Drumpf’s decision to not go to war in Syria and to bring troops home from Afghanistan. What makes me laugh is The Left now backing Warmonger Mattis who wanted to kill more brown people in the Middle East. Mattis is a military-industrial complex puppet and they aren’t happy they haven’t got more war. Suddenly the Tug Corona Bros agree with Mattis, who wanted to kill more brown people but the racist Drumpf said no.

    Does that answer your question?

    https://www.npr.org/2018/12/20/623246756/defense-secretary-mattis-to-retire-in-february-trump-says

    Defense Secretary Mattis Resigns Amid Syria And Afghanistan Tension

    December 20, 20185:31 PM ET

    I hear that, but I also think that yours is a subtle point to the average voter. A guy named "Mad Dog" and a military guy? Americans love that kind of character, and Trump let him retire quietly. Trump didn't give him a clever nickname, like Mopey Mattis or some shit, or rake him over the coals. It was "thank you for your service," and the country doesn't view him as some career DC insider. He's a Mad Dog Mattis.

    Whatever the Corona Bros believe or don't believe won't matter, because you know they'll vote for Satan himself before supporting Trump.

    IDK ... having Mattis come out with this right now seems like it could sting. FWIW, I also think it's REAL shitty timing because the country doesn't need anyone else fanning the flames.
    Mattis’ article will be forgotten by tomorrow. If Biden hits Trump with it during a debate, Trump will say Mad Dog wanted more war in the Middle East, Trump didn’t want to send more troops there to die in an endless war, so Mad Dog “resigned.”

    Then Trump points out how Biden allowed Obama to start conflicts with those Muslims in the region and kill thousands there by drones.

    It’s a loser for The Left to back Mad Dog.
    Yeah, I could see it playing out that way. People have short memories.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    Mattis resigned/was fired because he disagreed with Drumpf’s decision to not go to war in Syria and to bring troops home from Afghanistan. What makes me laugh is The Left now backing Warmonger Mattis who wanted to kill more brown people in the Middle East. Mattis is a military-industrial complex puppet and they aren’t happy they haven’t got more war. Suddenly the Tug Corona Bros agree with Mattis, who wanted to kill more brown people but the racist Drumpf said no.

    Does that answer your question?

    https://www.npr.org/2018/12/20/623246756/defense-secretary-mattis-to-retire-in-february-trump-says

    Defense Secretary Mattis Resigns Amid Syria And Afghanistan Tension

    December 20, 20185:31 PM ET

    Whatever the Corona Bros believe or don't believe won't matter, because you know they'll vote for Satan himself before supporting Trump.

    Only if he’s on the ballot.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited June 2020

    Mattis resigned/was fired because he disagreed with Drumpf’s decision to not go to war in Syria and to bring troops home from Afghanistan. What makes me laugh is The Left now backing Warmonger Mattis who wanted to kill more brown people in the Middle East. Mattis is a military-industrial complex puppet and they aren’t happy they haven’t got more war. Suddenly the Tug Corona Bros agree with Mattis, who wanted to kill more brown people but the racist Drumpf said no.

    Does that answer your question?

    https://www.npr.org/2018/12/20/623246756/defense-secretary-mattis-to-retire-in-february-trump-says

    Defense Secretary Mattis Resigns Amid Syria And Afghanistan Tension

    December 20, 20185:31 PM ET

    I hear that, but I also think that yours is a subtle point to the average voter. A guy named "Mad Dog" and a military guy? Americans love that kind of character, and Trump let him retire quietly. Trump didn't give him a clever nickname, like Mopey Mattis or some shit, or rake him over the coals. It was "thank you for your service," and the country doesn't view him as some career DC insider. He's a Mad Dog Mattis.

    Whatever the Corona Bros believe or don't believe won't matter, because you know they'll vote for Satan himself before supporting Trump.

    IDK ... having Mattis come out with this right now seems like it could sting. FWIW, I also think it's REAL shitty timing because the country doesn't need anyone else fanning the flames.
    Mattis’ article will be forgotten by tomorrow. If Biden hits Trump with it during a debate, Trump will say Mad Dog wanted more war in the Middle East, Trump didn’t want to send more troops there to die in an endless war, so Mad Dog “resigned.”

    Then Trump points out how Biden allowed Obama to start conflicts with those Muslims in the region and kill thousands there by drones.

    It’s a loser for The Left to back Mad Dog.
    Yeah, I could see it playing out that way. People have short memories.
    Nobody will care about Mad Dog by tomorrow and he quit or was fired because he wanted more war and Trump said no and went against that advice. Not the hill to die on for Democrats. A real media would report this to their lemmings, but we have propagandists instead pushing agenda under the false label of “Journalism.”
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    is maintaining loyalty Trump's achilles heel? Mad Dog kept a low profile after his departure. Now he's popping off even without a Rose Bowl.

    But does it matter? For the first tim, I'm actually starting to wonder if Trump is vulnerable, even against a complete fucking retard like Biden.

    I didn't think the virus would do it. That felt foisted upon us all; and even though I couldn't settle on a view about whether Trump was doing a good job leading us through it (because sometimes I thought he was and other times not), I really didn't think the Hong Kong Flu was going to do him in. Something like a pandemic is intractable and the entire world was dealing with it in a global shit show.

    But this thing now is entirely domestic and we?, the country, own it, for better or for worse. Now you have MD talking shit about Trump being divisive. It's early June. We're all going to blink and it's BOOM, we're in late August and everyone's attention will be on that big shift into life in the Fall.

    I'm guessing this will all die down, and America's ridiculously short attention span will help Trump in that it'll be behind us by then. If the economy is back en fuego at that poont, I think he beats the Bidentard despite the stumbling. If not, then his foibles could catch up to him. Ironically, I don't think it'll be his best policies that will help him at that point because his best policies are somewhat of an abstraction for the average American. I also think running a heavy handed police force to manage this crisis will be forgiven, too, because the truth is, when the shit hits the fan, the average dip shit wants someone to handle it. The things we toss around here about statists is also an abstraction to the average American. I don't think they'll care. And for Trump to lose, he has to lose part of his base.

    Trump is definitely vulnerable.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,785 Swaye's Wigwam
    I try not to pay attention to this shit until the end of days (just before election).

    Post to piss lefties off.

    I think Trump wants to lose - vulnerable? tired of all of it is more likely. I don't know many that could take the shit he has for the last 3 years.

    I am more concerned that the press just doesn't give a shit about what has happened the last 4 years - their hate for Trumpster is so strong.

    Too old to worry about this and what will happen in the next 20 years. Won't affect me unless I am forced to put up 15 illegals on my property.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
    LIPO.

    Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,815 Founders Club
    Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.

  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.

    Bush 1 was a NWO shill who said “no new taxes” and raised them. Then Hot Guy Clinton made panties wet with suburban housewives in the 90210 era with Melrose Place starting and Bush 1 was toast.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,815 Founders Club

    Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.

    Bush 1 was a NWO shill who said “no new taxes” and raised them. Then Hot Guy Clinton made panties wet with suburban housewives in the 90210 era with Melrose Place starting and Bush 1 was toast.
    He also had a 90% approval rating at one point and drove Iraq out of Kuwait

    He should have won

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,815 Founders Club
    I'll be in Vegas this October. As of now I still intend to put money on Trump
  • BayDawg
    BayDawg Member Posts: 1,623

    Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.

    The left had their chance to beat Trump and proceeded to field the worst primary of candidates in the history of politics.

    They needed an Obama. They got a washed up socialist who talks a big game and delivers nothing, and a racist has-been that had 8 years as VP to do something, and didn't.
    This. Its astounding how poor the democrat candidates have been the last 5 years. Say what you want about Obama, he would paste Trump by 15 clicks.
  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,192

    If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.

    Sounds like you hate Republics and are a fan of mob rule.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    LebamDawg said:

    I try not to pay attention to this shit until the end of days (just before election).

    Post to piss lefties off.

    I think Trump wants to lose - vulnerable? tired of all of it is more likely. I don't know many that could take the shit he has for the last 3 years.

    I am more concerned that the press just doesn't give a shit about what has happened the last 4 years - their hate for Trumpster is so strong.

    Too old to worry about this and what will happen in the next 20 years. Won't affect me unless I am forced to put up 15 illegals on my property.

    You must have a good backhoe!
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    I like trump because he shits on libs and illegals