Serious Question for the Trump Bros
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Mattis should STFU and get back to his book tour talking about transgenders as the most important military issue of our time.
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Yes, and?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sounds like you hate Republics and are a fan of mob rule.HustlinOwl said:If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.
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It's all fun and games til the mob is hungry and looks at youGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, and?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sounds like you hate Republics and are a fan of mob rule.HustlinOwl said:If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.
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I think people do know and have known trump is as you describe. That’s how bad the left candidates are.HustlinOwl said:If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.
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That's where I was going generally in the first post. For the first time I can remember, and honest to goodness conservative with real credentials who is figure that plays strong with the base has come out against his former employer. I was wondering, and still wonder, whether it would chip the base.GrundleStiltzkin said:
LIPO.creepycoug said:
I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.NorthwestFresh said:
Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
But then again, as Race points out, the Democrats have rolled out a real retard as a candidate. Hillary, before, was more electable than this clown. -
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Yes and no.SFGbob said:
Trump is definitely vulnerable.creepycoug said:is maintaining loyalty Trump's achilles heel? Mad Dog kept a low profile after his departure. Now he's popping off even without a Rose Bowl.
But does it matter? For the first tim, I'm actually starting to wonder if Trump is vulnerable, even against a complete fucking retard like Biden.
I didn't think the virus would do it. That felt foisted upon us all; and even though I couldn't settle on a view about whether Trump was doing a good job leading us through it (because sometimes I thought he was and other times not), I really didn't think the Hong Kong Flu was going to do him in. Something like a pandemic is intractable and the entire world was dealing with it in a global shit show.
But this thing now is entirely domestic and we?, the country, own it, for better or for worse. Now you have MD talking shit about Trump being divisive. It's early June. We're all going to blink and it's BOOM, we're in late August and everyone's attention will be on that big shift into life in the Fall.
I'm guessing this will all die down, and America's ridiculously short attention span will help Trump in that it'll be behind us by then. If the economy is back en fuego at that poont, I think he beats the Bidentard despite the stumbling. If not, then his foibles could catch up to him. Ironically, I don't think it'll be his best policies that will help him at that point because his best policies are somewhat of an abstraction for the average American. I also think running a heavy handed police force to manage this crisis will be forgiven, too, because the truth is, when the shit hits the fan, the average dip shit wants someone to handle it. The things we toss around here about statists is also an abstraction to the average American. I don't think they'll care. And for Trump to lose, he has to lose part of his base.
He didn't win with independent voters before.
He won by carrying the weird poor populous part of the GOP and by stealing the white working class from the Dems. I don't see anything that has changed his appeal to those voters vid, riots, or otherwise.
Look no further than this bored to see how he's won over plenty of traditional GOP that stayed home last time.
I don't see a huge swing in independent voters happening either. Biden isn't the guy that's going to excite or win over that voter base.
Biden will carry the same people the Dems always do minus the white working class. That's not a winning formula.
This right here. That's the secret ingredient in Trump's taco sauce. -
I hear Obama addressed the nation today
But I didn't hear it. I'm not doing hypotheticals and I'll give you him beating Trump if you want but Obama was no better and probably worse
Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........ -
without a fucking war. it was "hold my beer" for the US military and the elite Republican guard was shedding their unis and saying "no mas" 5 minutes in.RaceBannon said:
He also had a 90% approval rating at one point and drove Iraq out of KuwaitNorthwestFresh said:
Bush 1 was a NWO shill who said “no new taxes” and raised them. Then Hot Guy Clinton made panties wet with suburban housewives in the 90210 era with Melrose Place starting and Bush 1 was toast.RaceBannon said:Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.
He should have won
he caved on taxes, but Bush I was the last of a dying breed. he actually had the creds to be there. a real superstar on the merits; but far from the best politician. -
Watching a doc on W they covered Bush 1. He really didn't think voters would pick Clinton over him. Not out of arrogance, just like look at my resume.
Perot probably was the difference
For you kids Clinton avoided if not dodged the draft and Bush 1 was a war hero
That was the end of that argument.
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What do you mean and...? He drone striked thousands, fucked up healthcare even more, encouraged the exodus of American manufacturing, won a Nobel peace prize, and did a mean job reading off a teleprompter....RaceBannon said:
Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........
