I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
LIPO.
Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
That's where I was going generally in the first post. For the first time I can remember, and honest to goodness conservative with real credentials who is figure that plays strong with the base has come out against his former employer. I was wondering, and still wonder, whether it would chip the base.
But then again, as Race points out, the Democrats have rolled out a real retard as a candidate. Hillary, before, was more electable than this clown.
Fuck Mathis. He’s not a “conservative”...he’s been an undeclared Democrat for years. And fuck him for trying to get us into war in Syria and for being part of the appeasement of Iran. If he had his way we would be knee-deep in Syria right now.
You think we would have nailed Solomani (sp?) if he was still in the administration? Props for ISIS, but TBH any halfway competent military person not hindered by Obama’s policies could have gotten rid of them in short order. It’s not like there was some brilliant strategy involved.
Well, we could have said the same thing when his time under Obama was cut short over disagreements on his Iran policy. I think Mattis is a soldier and does what he thinks is best for the U.S. I would think, in the Tug, that would make him a conservative, with or without the special ID card.
Q: Are you a Democrat? Mattis: “You know, we’re all built on our formative experiences. When I was 18, I joined the Marine Corps, and in the U.S. military we are proudly apolitical. By that, I mean that in our duties, we were brought up to obey the elected commander in chief, whoever that is. And we’ve seen, over those — since I was in the military longer than some of you have been alive, I have seen Republicans and Democrats come and go. Where am I today? I’m a member of the president’s administration. And you have seen that President Trump’s military policies, security policies, reaping significant bipartisan support. So my role, when you see 83 percent — think about this — for ― and I realize you all write about tension between this person and that, this administration and that party, and this sort of thing.”
“But when you think 83 percent of the U.S. Congress voting the same way on an issue put forward by the Republican president, you can see that my portfolio is bipartisan by its very basis, and that is the protection of the United States. That’s what President Trump has told me to do, and I eagerly carry that out, alongside probably the most selfless young men and women — not all young; some old men and women, too — civilian and military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines working together. So that’s where I stand. That defines me."
You have two choices in this election same as last
Trump voters are no different than any other voter.
If you think Biden is the answer and he gets elected I wont spend 4 years attacking you and calling you vile names
Can't say the same about Biden
Payback is a bitch
I knew BO was the most corrupt President in the history of the country. The facts have shown the light on that. Only a rat liar denies it.
However I never called a dem voter or in the case of BO, a Rep voter, a racist. I never set things on fire, beat innocent Americans half to death, killed people, shot people, pulled people out of their cars and beat them, kicked anyone out of an establishment because they had a BO hat or T-Shirt on, travelled around the world telling foreigners how bad our President was, lie and then try to impeach BO, twice.
That is uniquely democrat behavior.
Actually, you do that daily for stretches at a time.
As for the rest of your representations, I'll just have to take your word for it; because you seem like the zealous type to me.
I have never called anyone a racist for voting for BO. I believe liberal policies are racist to their core. That's a big difference. But don't let me take away from your lie that made you get all tingly. Keep pleasuring yourself if you must.
Get your facts straight junior.
I don't care. You are not someone I care to convince or impress.
I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
LIPO.
Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
That's where I was going generally in the first post. For the first time I can remember, and honest to goodness conservative with real credentials who is figure that plays strong with the base has come out against his former employer. I was wondering, and still wonder, whether it would chip the base.
But then again, as Race points out, the Democrats have rolled out a real retard as a candidate. Hillary, before, was more electable than this clown.
Fuck Mathis. He’s not a “conservative”...he’s been an undeclared Democrat for years. And fuck him for trying to get us into war in Syria and for being part of the appeasement of Iran. If he had his way we would be knee-deep in Syria right now.
You think we would have nailed Solomani (sp?) if he was still in the administration? Props for ISIS, but TBH any halfway competent military person not hindered by Obama’s policies could have gotten rid of them in short order. It’s not like there was some brilliant strategy involved.
Well, we could have said the same thing when his time under Obama was cut short over disagreements on his Iran policy. I think Mattis is a soldier and does what he thinks is best for the U.S. I would think, in the Tug, that would make him a conservative, with or without the special ID card.
Q: Are you a Democrat? Mattis: “You know, we’re all built on our formative experiences. When I was 18, I joined the Marine Corps, and in the U.S. military we are proudly apolitical. By that, I mean that in our duties, we were brought up to obey the elected commander in chief, whoever that is. And we’ve seen, over those — since I was in the military longer than some of you have been alive, I have seen Republicans and Democrats come and go. Where am I today? I’m a member of the president’s administration. And you have seen that President Trump’s military policies, security policies, reaping significant bipartisan support. So my role, when you see 83 percent — think about this — for ― and I realize you all write about tension between this person and that, this administration and that party, and this sort of thing.”
“But when you think 83 percent of the U.S. Congress voting the same way on an issue put forward by the Republican president, you can see that my portfolio is bipartisan by its very basis, and that is the protection of the United States. That’s what President Trump has told me to do, and I eagerly carry that out, alongside probably the most selfless young men and women — not all young; some old men and women, too — civilian and military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines working together. So that’s where I stand. That defines me."
Seems like a flag burning dirty hippie to me.
I know nothing about Mattis' policy positions. Chances are, I wouldn't like them. As far as I can tell, Mattis possesses strong and competent leadership skills. The last three months has shown how little leadership competency most elected politicians have.
is maintaining loyalty Trump's achilles heel? Mad Dog kept a low profile after his departure. Now he's popping off even without a Rose Bowl.
But does it matter? For the first tim, I'm actually starting to wonder if Trump is vulnerable, even against a complete fucking retard like Biden.
I didn't think the virus would do it. That felt foisted upon us all; and even though I couldn't settle on a view about whether Trump was doing a good job leading us through it (because sometimes I thought he was and other times not), I really didn't think the Hong Kong Flu was going to do him in. Something like a pandemic is intractable and the entire world was dealing with it in a global shit show.
But this thing now is entirely domestic and we?, the country, own it, for better or for worse. Now you have MD talking shit about Trump being divisive. It's early June. We're all going to blink and it's BOOM, we're in late August and everyone's attention will be on that big shift into life in the Fall.
I'm guessing this will all die down, and America's ridiculously short attention span will help Trump in that it'll be behind us by then. If the economy is back en fuego at that poont, I think he beats the Bidentard despite the stumbling. If not, then his foibles could catch up to him. Ironically, I don't think it'll be his best policies that will help him at that point because his best policies are somewhat of an abstraction for the average American. I also think running a heavy handed police force to manage this crisis will be forgiven, too, because the truth is, when the shit hits the fan, the average dip shit wants someone to handle it. The things we toss around here about statists is also an abstraction to the average American. I don't think they'll care. And for Trump to lose, he has to lose part of his base.
For the first time I wondered if Trump could be vulnerable after Mad Dog's comment. I will still be shocked if he loses. But it is a massive thunderclap, MDs criticism
Mattis is competent. But he doesn't set policy and he an US military interventionist at heart. Trump is much more competent than barry, PIPS, Slo Jo and any other dem candidate. Trump fights and puts American interests first. Surprised that Mattis doesn't seem to appreciate that.
If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.
Biden will win the popular vote rather easily but the electoral vote basically comes down to 8 swing states - AZ, FL, MI, NC, NH, NV, PA, WI. Trump won all of them except NV and NH in 2016. If you back out the electoral votes from these swing states, Trump has 203 "guaranteed" electoral votes and 217 for the Dems.
AZ (11) - Trump 48.7, Clinton 45.1, 3rd Party 5.5 FL (29) - Trump 49, Clinton 47.8, 3rd party 2.9 MI (16) - Trump 47.5, Clinton 47.3, 3rd party 4.7 NC (15) - Trump 49.8, Clinton 46.2, 3rd party 3 NH (4) - Clinton 46.9, Trump 46.6, 3rd party 5 NV (6) - Clinton 47.5, Trump 46, 3rd party 3.3 PA (20) - Trump 48.2, Clinton 47.5, 3rd party 3.2 WI (10) - Trump 47.2, Clinton 46.5, 3rd party 4.6
The wildcard this year is the 3rd party vote (I combined Johnson and Stein's 2016 share). With Amash standing down, it looks unlikely a third party candidate will get a meaningful enough share of the vote to alter the results in these states like they did in 2016.
Let's assume Trump wins Florida again but Biden takes his home state of PA. From there, Trump's easiest path would be to sweep the other Midwest states and hold NC. For Biden, he'll need to hold NH/NV and pick off one of MI/NC and AZ/WI.
I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
LIPO.
Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
That's where I was going generally in the first post. For the first time I can remember, and honest to goodness conservative with real credentials who is figure that plays strong with the base has come out against his former employer. I was wondering, and still wonder, whether it would chip the base.
But then again, as Race points out, the Democrats have rolled out a real retard as a candidate. Hillary, before, was more electable than this clown.
Fuck Mathis. He’s not a “conservative”...he’s been an undeclared Democrat for years. And fuck him for trying to get us into war in Syria and for being part of the appeasement of Iran. If he had his way we would be knee-deep in Syria right now.
You think we would have nailed Solomani (sp?) if he was still in the administration? Props for ISIS, but TBH any halfway competent military person not hindered by Obama’s policies could have gotten rid of them in short order. It’s not like there was some brilliant strategy involved.
Well, we could have said the same thing when his time under Obama was cut short over disagreements on his Iran policy. I think Mattis is a soldier and does what he thinks is best for the U.S. I would think, in the Tug, that would make him a conservative, with or without the special ID card.
Q: Are you a Democrat? Mattis: “You know, we’re all built on our formative experiences. When I was 18, I joined the Marine Corps, and in the U.S. military we are proudly apolitical. By that, I mean that in our duties, we were brought up to obey the elected commander in chief, whoever that is. And we’ve seen, over those — since I was in the military longer than some of you have been alive, I have seen Republicans and Democrats come and go. Where am I today? I’m a member of the president’s administration. And you have seen that President Trump’s military policies, security policies, reaping significant bipartisan support. So my role, when you see 83 percent — think about this — for ― and I realize you all write about tension between this person and that, this administration and that party, and this sort of thing.”
“But when you think 83 percent of the U.S. Congress voting the same way on an issue put forward by the Republican president, you can see that my portfolio is bipartisan by its very basis, and that is the protection of the United States. That’s what President Trump has told me to do, and I eagerly carry that out, alongside probably the most selfless young men and women — not all young; some old men and women, too — civilian and military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines working together. So that’s where I stand. That defines me."
Seems like a flag burning dirty hippie to me.
Like I said, fuck Mattis. He quit because he wanted us to go to war in Syria, ramp up operations in Afghanistan, and wanted Trump to stay in the Iran deal. Those aren’t bright policy choices...in fact they are amazing dumb ones.
Goes to the bigger point...being a good general is completely different skill set then being a policy guy. He’s excelled at the former...he’s been nothing but lacking on the later.
You have two choices in this election same as last
Trump voters are no different than any other voter.
If you think Biden is the answer and he gets elected I wont spend 4 years attacking you and calling you vile names
Can't say the same about Biden
Payback is a bitch
I knew BO was the most corrupt President in the history of the country. The facts have shown the light on that. Only a rat liar denies it.
However I never called a dem voter or in the case of BO, a Rep voter, a racist. I never set things on fire, beat innocent Americans half to death, killed people, shot people, pulled people out of their cars and beat them, kicked anyone out of an establishment because they had a BO hat or T-Shirt on, travelled around the world telling foreigners how bad our President was, lie and then try to impeach BO, twice.
That is uniquely democrat behavior.
Actually, you do that daily for stretches at a time.
As for the rest of your representations, I'll just have to take your word for it; because you seem like the zealous type to me.
I have never called anyone a racist for voting for BO. I believe liberal policies are racist to their core. That's a big difference. But don't let me take away from your lie that made you get all tingly. Keep pleasuring yourself if you must.
Get your facts straight junior.
I don't care. You are not someone I care to convince or impress.
I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
LIPO.
Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
That's where I was going generally in the first post. For the first time I can remember, and honest to goodness conservative with real credentials who is figure that plays strong with the base has come out against his former employer. I was wondering, and still wonder, whether it would chip the base.
But then again, as Race points out, the Democrats have rolled out a real retard as a candidate. Hillary, before, was more electable than this clown.
Fuck Mathis. He’s not a “conservative”...he’s been an undeclared Democrat for years. And fuck him for trying to get us into war in Syria and for being part of the appeasement of Iran. If he had his way we would be knee-deep in Syria right now.
You think we would have nailed Solomani (sp?) if he was still in the administration? Props for ISIS, but TBH any halfway competent military person not hindered by Obama’s policies could have gotten rid of them in short order. It’s not like there was some brilliant strategy involved.
Well, we could have said the same thing when his time under Obama was cut short over disagreements on his Iran policy. I think Mattis is a soldier and does what he thinks is best for the U.S. I would think, in the Tug, that would make him a conservative, with or without the special ID card.
Q: Are you a Democrat? Mattis: “You know, we’re all built on our formative experiences. When I was 18, I joined the Marine Corps, and in the U.S. military we are proudly apolitical. By that, I mean that in our duties, we were brought up to obey the elected commander in chief, whoever that is. And we’ve seen, over those — since I was in the military longer than some of you have been alive, I have seen Republicans and Democrats come and go. Where am I today? I’m a member of the president’s administration. And you have seen that President Trump’s military policies, security policies, reaping significant bipartisan support. So my role, when you see 83 percent — think about this — for ― and I realize you all write about tension between this person and that, this administration and that party, and this sort of thing.”
“But when you think 83 percent of the U.S. Congress voting the same way on an issue put forward by the Republican president, you can see that my portfolio is bipartisan by its very basis, and that is the protection of the United States. That’s what President Trump has told me to do, and I eagerly carry that out, alongside probably the most selfless young men and women — not all young; some old men and women, too — civilian and military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines working together. So that’s where I stand. That defines me."
Seems like a flag burning dirty hippie to me.
Like I said, fuck Mattis. He quit because he wanted us to go to war in Syria, ramp up operations in Afghanistan, and wanted Trump to stay in the Iran deal. Those aren’t bright policy choices...in fact they are amazing dumb ones.
Goes to the bigger point...being a good general is completely different skill set then being a policy guy. He’s excelled at the former...he’s been nothing but lacking on the later.
You're a policy person. Vast majority of people don't appreciate 1/16th of what you know and understand. Admittedly, the title of my thread was whether Trump has a loyalty problem ... and your response about Mattis' incompetence sorta goes to that in the "who cares if a person let go for incompetence remains loyal," kind of way.
But the other part of my post is whether it would hurt him. And I don't think the average voter who supports Trump thinks of a guy nick named "Mad Dog", who is quintessentially US military, is going to think he's a liberal in disguise and therefore write him off as such.
But I've come to the conclusion that it probably won't matter. I still find it interesting that he thinks Trump is divisive and I don't write him off as easily as you seem to based on his policy preferences. He may stand for shitty policy; but he's not some jilted lover or loon and people listen to guys like Mattis. The US has always been, and still is, in love with its military. It's instant cred. to be a soldier. Basically what Stalin wrote.
I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
LIPO.
Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
That's where I was going generally in the first post. For the first time I can remember, and honest to goodness conservative with real credentials who is figure that plays strong with the base has come out against his former employer. I was wondering, and still wonder, whether it would chip the base.
But then again, as Race points out, the Democrats have rolled out a real retard as a candidate. Hillary, before, was more electable than this clown.
Fuck Mathis. He’s not a “conservative”...he’s been an undeclared Democrat for years. And fuck him for trying to get us into war in Syria and for being part of the appeasement of Iran. If he had his way we would be knee-deep in Syria right now.
You think we would have nailed Solomani (sp?) if he was still in the administration? Props for ISIS, but TBH any halfway competent military person not hindered by Obama’s policies could have gotten rid of them in short order. It’s not like there was some brilliant strategy involved.
Well, we could have said the same thing when his time under Obama was cut short over disagreements on his Iran policy. I think Mattis is a soldier and does what he thinks is best for the U.S. I would think, in the Tug, that would make him a conservative, with or without the special ID card.
Q: Are you a Democrat? Mattis: “You know, we’re all built on our formative experiences. When I was 18, I joined the Marine Corps, and in the U.S. military we are proudly apolitical. By that, I mean that in our duties, we were brought up to obey the elected commander in chief, whoever that is. And we’ve seen, over those — since I was in the military longer than some of you have been alive, I have seen Republicans and Democrats come and go. Where am I today? I’m a member of the president’s administration. And you have seen that President Trump’s military policies, security policies, reaping significant bipartisan support. So my role, when you see 83 percent — think about this — for ― and I realize you all write about tension between this person and that, this administration and that party, and this sort of thing.”
“But when you think 83 percent of the U.S. Congress voting the same way on an issue put forward by the Republican president, you can see that my portfolio is bipartisan by its very basis, and that is the protection of the United States. That’s what President Trump has told me to do, and I eagerly carry that out, alongside probably the most selfless young men and women — not all young; some old men and women, too — civilian and military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines working together. So that’s where I stand. That defines me."
Seems like a flag burning dirty hippie to me.
Like I said, fuck Mattis. He quit because he wanted us to go to war in Syria, ramp up operations in Afghanistan, and wanted Trump to stay in the Iran deal. Those aren’t bright policy choices...in fact they are amazing dumb ones.
Goes to the bigger point...being a good general is completely different skill set then being a policy guy. He’s excelled at the former...he’s been nothing but lacking on the later.
This. How many examples of this have we discussed in the Tug.
Trump's a boorish troll in chief(which can be hilarious in combination with the outrage addicted media and Left) but he does have a real nose for a lot of policy.
Mattis is competent. But he doesn't set policy and he an US military interventionist at heart. Trump is much more competent than barry, PIPS, Slo Jo and any other dem candidate. Trump fights and puts American interests first. Surprised that Mattis doesn't seem to appreciate that.
Me too. It may be that what most people in the Tug seem to agree upon - that Trump, as a person, is an asshole with whom most of us would not enjoy spending tim - is what people walk away with when they leave his team. IDK
Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........
What do you mean and...? He drone striked thousands, fucked up healthcare even more, encouraged the exodus of American manufacturing, won a Nobel peace prize, and did a mean job reading off a teleprompter....
IIRC - he stuttered and stammered every tim he talked. Maybe he was trying to make it look like he was thinking and talking at the same tim.
Also - Mattis will be forgotten by the end of the protests - it is very scary that people like @insecuredawg are praising Mattis
Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........
What do you mean and...? He drone striked thousands, fucked up healthcare even more, encouraged the exodus of American manufacturing, won a Nobel peace prize, and did a mean job reading off a teleprompter....
IIRC - he stuttered and stammered every tim he talked. Maybe he was trying to make it look like he was thinking and talking at the same tim.
Also - Mattis will be forgotten by the end of the protests - it is very scary that people like @insecuredawg are praising Mattis
You can say a lot about Obama, but being a shitty speaker isn't one of them.
I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
LIPO.
Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
That's where I was going generally in the first post. For the first time I can remember, and honest to goodness conservative with real credentials who is figure that plays strong with the base has come out against his former employer. I was wondering, and still wonder, whether it would chip the base.
But then again, as Race points out, the Democrats have rolled out a real retard as a candidate. Hillary, before, was more electable than this clown.
Fuck Mathis. He’s not a “conservative”...he’s been an undeclared Democrat for years. And fuck him for trying to get us into war in Syria and for being part of the appeasement of Iran. If he had his way we would be knee-deep in Syria right now.
You think we would have nailed Solomani (sp?) if he was still in the administration? Props for ISIS, but TBH any halfway competent military person not hindered by Obama’s policies could have gotten rid of them in short order. It’s not like there was some brilliant strategy involved.
Well, we could have said the same thing when his time under Obama was cut short over disagreements on his Iran policy. I think Mattis is a soldier and does what he thinks is best for the U.S. I would think, in the Tug, that would make him a conservative, with or without the special ID card.
Q: Are you a Democrat? Mattis: “You know, we’re all built on our formative experiences. When I was 18, I joined the Marine Corps, and in the U.S. military we are proudly apolitical. By that, I mean that in our duties, we were brought up to obey the elected commander in chief, whoever that is. And we’ve seen, over those — since I was in the military longer than some of you have been alive, I have seen Republicans and Democrats come and go. Where am I today? I’m a member of the president’s administration. And you have seen that President Trump’s military policies, security policies, reaping significant bipartisan support. So my role, when you see 83 percent — think about this — for ― and I realize you all write about tension between this person and that, this administration and that party, and this sort of thing.”
“But when you think 83 percent of the U.S. Congress voting the same way on an issue put forward by the Republican president, you can see that my portfolio is bipartisan by its very basis, and that is the protection of the United States. That’s what President Trump has told me to do, and I eagerly carry that out, alongside probably the most selfless young men and women — not all young; some old men and women, too — civilian and military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines working together. So that’s where I stand. That defines me."
Seems like a flag burning dirty hippie to me.
Like I said, fuck Mattis. He quit because he wanted us to go to war in Syria, ramp up operations in Afghanistan, and wanted Trump to stay in the Iran deal. Those aren’t bright policy choices...in fact they are amazing dumb ones.
Goes to the bigger point...being a good general is completely different skill set then being a policy guy. He’s excelled at the former...he’s been nothing but lacking on the later.
You're a policy person. Vast majority of people don't appreciate 1/16th of what you know and understand. Admittedly, the title of my thread was whether Trump has a loyalty problem ... and your response about Mattis' incompetence sorta goes to that in the "who cares if a person let go for incompetence remains loyal," kind of way.
But the other part of my post is whether it would hurt him. And I don't think the average voter who supports Trump thinks of a guy nick named "Mad Dog", who is quintessentially US military, is going to think he's a liberal in disguise and therefore write him off as such.
But I've come to the conclusion that it probably won't matter. I still find it interesting that he thinks Trump is divisive and I don't write him off as easily as you seem to based on his policy preferences. He may stand for shitty policy; but he's not some jilted lover or loon and people listen to guys like Mattis. The US has always been, and still is, in love with its military. It's instant cred. to be a soldier. Basically what Stalin wrote.
Mattis is competent. But he doesn't set policy and he an US military interventionist at heart. Trump is much more competent than barry, PIPS, Slo Jo and any other dem candidate. Trump fights and puts American interests first. Surprised that Mattis doesn't seem to appreciate that.
Me too. It may be that what most people in the Tug seem to agree upon - that Trump, as a person, is an asshole with whom most of us would not enjoy spending tim - is what people walk away with when they leave his team. IDK
The thing is that none of that shit matters in current US politics. It's all tribalism and ideology.
Even Bannon said that Trump is an imperfect instrument and was also let go. That's from the motherfucker that got him elected.
Look no further than the Dems. Biden is fucking terrible but they're going to hold their collective noses and vote for him anyways.
Character, or lack there of, charm, resume, etc. are all a lot smaller than the current battle playing out in US politics.
As Dennis Miller noted, Trump's outer voice matches his inner voice. I'll take that and all of it's garbage over someone like BO who could charm and dazzle a room while using Russian disinformation to secretly spy on opponents campaigns.
Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........
What do you mean and...? He drone striked thousands, fucked up healthcare even more, encouraged the exodus of American manufacturing, won a Nobel peace prize, and did a mean job reading off a teleprompter....
IIRC - he stuttered and stammered every tim he talked. Maybe he was trying to make it look like he was thinking and talking at the same tim.
Also - Mattis will be forgotten by the end of the protests - it is very scary that people like @insecuredawg are praising Mattis
You can say a lot about Obama, but being a shitty speaker isn't one of them.
He was /is a good speaker but he does have a stammer/stutter to his delivery. NTTIAWWT
When Abe Lincoln was told to fire Grant he said, I need this man he fights.
Trump fights. Go ahead and waste time blasting his voters. It only tightens the bond the same way the birther issue united the Obama base. In other words what Bot said
Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........
What do you mean and...? He drone striked thousands, fucked up healthcare even more, encouraged the exodus of American manufacturing, won a Nobel peace prize, and did a mean job reading off a teleprompter....
IIRC - he stuttered and stammered every tim he talked. Maybe he was trying to make it look like he was thinking and talking at the same tim.
Also - Mattis will be forgotten by the end of the protests - it is very scary that people like @insecuredawg are praising Mattis
You can say a lot about Obama, but being a shitty speaker isn't one of them.
Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........
What do you mean and...? He drone striked thousands, fucked up healthcare even more, encouraged the exodus of American manufacturing, won a Nobel peace prize, and did a mean job reading off a teleprompter....
IIRC - he stuttered and stammered every tim he talked. Maybe he was trying to make it look like he was thinking and talking at the same tim.
Also - Mattis will be forgotten by the end of the protests - it is very scary that people like @insecuredawg are praising Mattis
You can say a lot about Obama, but being a shitty speaker isn't one of them.
Too bad that was all the game he had.
Reading off a TelePrompTer was the only game he had. Off the cuff he was a stuttering disaster.
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Q: Are you a Democrat? Mattis: “You know, we’re all built on our formative experiences. When I was 18, I joined the Marine Corps, and in the U.S. military we are proudly apolitical. By that, I mean that in our duties, we were brought up to obey the elected commander in chief, whoever that is. And we’ve seen, over those — since I was in the military longer than some of you have been alive, I have seen Republicans and Democrats come and go. Where am I today? I’m a member of the president’s administration. And you have seen that President Trump’s military policies, security policies, reaping significant bipartisan support. So my role, when you see 83 percent — think about this — for ― and I realize you all write about tension between this person and that, this administration and that party, and this sort of thing.”
“But when you think 83 percent of the U.S. Congress voting the same way on an issue put forward by the Republican president, you can see that my portfolio is bipartisan by its very basis, and that is the protection of the United States. That’s what President Trump has told me to do, and I eagerly carry that out, alongside probably the most selfless young men and women — not all young; some old men and women, too — civilian and military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines working together. So that’s where I stand. That defines me."
Seems like a flag burning dirty hippie to me.
I'll just leave it at that.
AZ (11) - Trump 48.7, Clinton 45.1, 3rd Party 5.5
FL (29) - Trump 49, Clinton 47.8, 3rd party 2.9
MI (16) - Trump 47.5, Clinton 47.3, 3rd party 4.7
NC (15) - Trump 49.8, Clinton 46.2, 3rd party 3
NH (4) - Clinton 46.9, Trump 46.6, 3rd party 5
NV (6) - Clinton 47.5, Trump 46, 3rd party 3.3
PA (20) - Trump 48.2, Clinton 47.5, 3rd party 3.2
WI (10) - Trump 47.2, Clinton 46.5, 3rd party 4.6
The wildcard this year is the 3rd party vote (I combined Johnson and Stein's 2016 share). With Amash standing down, it looks unlikely a third party candidate will get a meaningful enough share of the vote to alter the results in these states like they did in 2016.
Let's assume Trump wins Florida again but Biden takes his home state of PA. From there, Trump's easiest path would be to sweep the other Midwest states and hold NC. For Biden, he'll need to hold NH/NV and pick off one of MI/NC and AZ/WI.
Of course it's way too early so LIFPO. EWIWBI.
Goes to the bigger point...being a good general is completely different skill set then being a policy guy. He’s excelled at the former...he’s been nothing but lacking on the later.
But the other part of my post is whether it would hurt him. And I don't think the average voter who supports Trump thinks of a guy nick named "Mad Dog", who is quintessentially US military, is going to think he's a liberal in disguise and therefore write him off as such.
But I've come to the conclusion that it probably won't matter. I still find it interesting that he thinks Trump is divisive and I don't write him off as easily as you seem to based on his policy preferences. He may stand for shitty policy; but he's not some jilted lover or loon and people listen to guys like Mattis. The US has always been, and still is, in love with its military. It's instant cred. to be a soldier. Basically what Stalin wrote.
Trump's a boorish troll in chief(which can be hilarious in combination with the outrage addicted media and Left) but he does have a real nose for a lot of policy.
Also - Mattis will be forgotten by the end of the protests - it is very scary that people like @insecuredawg are praising Mattis
Even Bannon said that Trump is an imperfect instrument and was also let go. That's from the motherfucker that got him elected.
Look no further than the Dems. Biden is fucking terrible but they're going to hold their collective noses and vote for him anyways.
Character, or lack there of, charm, resume, etc. are all a lot smaller than the current battle playing out in US politics.
As Dennis Miller noted, Trump's outer voice matches his inner voice. I'll take that and all of it's garbage over someone like BO who could charm and dazzle a room while using Russian disinformation to secretly spy on opponents campaigns.
Trump fights. Go ahead and waste time blasting his voters. It only tightens the bond the same way the birther issue united the Obama base. In other words what Bot said