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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.

    Bush 1 was a NWO shill who said “no new taxes” and raised them. Then Hot Guy Clinton made panties wet with suburban housewives in the 90210 era with Melrose Place starting and Bush 1 was toast.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.

    Bush 1 was a NWO shill who said “no new taxes” and raised them. Then Hot Guy Clinton made panties wet with suburban housewives in the 90210 era with Melrose Place starting and Bush 1 was toast.
    He also had a 90% approval rating at one point and drove Iraq out of Kuwait

    He should have won

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    I'll be in Vegas this October. As of now I still intend to put money on Trump
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    BayDawgBayDawg Member Posts: 1,623
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    Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.

    The left had their chance to beat Trump and proceeded to field the worst primary of candidates in the history of politics.

    They needed an Obama. They got a washed up socialist who talks a big game and delivers nothing, and a racist has-been that had 8 years as VP to do something, and didn't.
    This. Its astounding how poor the democrat candidates have been the last 5 years. Say what you want about Obama, he would paste Trump by 15 clicks.
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    HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
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    If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,583
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    If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.

    Sounds like you hate Republics and are a fan of mob rule.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,895
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    LebamDawg said:

    I try not to pay attention to this shit until the end of days (just before election).

    Post to piss lefties off.

    I think Trump wants to lose - vulnerable? tired of all of it is more likely. I don't know many that could take the shit he has for the last 3 years.

    I am more concerned that the press just doesn't give a shit about what has happened the last 4 years - their hate for Trumpster is so strong.

    Too old to worry about this and what will happen in the next 20 years. Won't affect me unless I am forced to put up 15 illegals on my property.

    You must have a good backhoe!
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,602
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    I like trump because he shits on libs and illegals
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.

    Sounds like you hate Republics and are a fan of mob rule.
    Yes, and?
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,583
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    If people haven't learned Trump is a bumbling childish idiot in the last 4 years they're not going to figure it out in the next 4 months. Trump only has to win Florida and one or two of the other 5 or 6 swing states and he wins. The vast majority of votes under our awesome electoral college system don't matter anymore.

    Sounds like you hate Republics and are a fan of mob rule.
    Yes, and?
    It's all fun and games til the mob is hungry and looks at you
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.
    LIPO.

    Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters.
    That's where I was going generally in the first post. For the first time I can remember, and honest to goodness conservative with real credentials who is figure that plays strong with the base has come out against his former employer. I was wondering, and still wonder, whether it would chip the base.

    But then again, as Race points out, the Democrats have rolled out a real retard as a candidate. Hillary, before, was more electable than this clown.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    SFGbob said:

    is maintaining loyalty Trump's achilles heel? Mad Dog kept a low profile after his departure. Now he's popping off even without a Rose Bowl.

    But does it matter? For the first tim, I'm actually starting to wonder if Trump is vulnerable, even against a complete fucking retard like Biden.

    I didn't think the virus would do it. That felt foisted upon us all; and even though I couldn't settle on a view about whether Trump was doing a good job leading us through it (because sometimes I thought he was and other times not), I really didn't think the Hong Kong Flu was going to do him in. Something like a pandemic is intractable and the entire world was dealing with it in a global shit show.

    But this thing now is entirely domestic and we?, the country, own it, for better or for worse. Now you have MD talking shit about Trump being divisive. It's early June. We're all going to blink and it's BOOM, we're in late August and everyone's attention will be on that big shift into life in the Fall.

    I'm guessing this will all die down, and America's ridiculously short attention span will help Trump in that it'll be behind us by then. If the economy is back en fuego at that poont, I think he beats the Bidentard despite the stumbling. If not, then his foibles could catch up to him. Ironically, I don't think it'll be his best policies that will help him at that point because his best policies are somewhat of an abstraction for the average American. I also think running a heavy handed police force to manage this crisis will be forgiven, too, because the truth is, when the shit hits the fan, the average dip shit wants someone to handle it. The things we toss around here about statists is also an abstraction to the average American. I don't think they'll care. And for Trump to lose, he has to lose part of his base.

    Trump is definitely vulnerable.
    Yes and no.

    He didn't win with independent voters before.

    He won by carrying the weird poor populous part of the GOP and by stealing the white working class from the Dems. I don't see anything that has changed his appeal to those voters vid, riots, or otherwise.

    Look no further than this bored to see how he's won over plenty of traditional GOP that stayed home last time.

    I don't see a huge swing in independent voters happening either. Biden isn't the guy that's going to excite or win over that voter base.

    Biden will carry the same people the Dems always do minus the white working class. That's not a winning formula.

    This right here. That's the secret ingredient in Trump's taco sauce.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    I hear Obama addressed the nation today

    But I didn't hear it. I'm not doing hypotheticals and I'll give you him beating Trump if you want but Obama was no better and probably worse

    Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.

    Bush 1 was a NWO shill who said “no new taxes” and raised them. Then Hot Guy Clinton made panties wet with suburban housewives in the 90210 era with Melrose Place starting and Bush 1 was toast.
    He also had a 90% approval rating at one point and drove Iraq out of Kuwait

    He should have won

    without a fucking war. it was "hold my beer" for the US military and the elite Republican guard was shedding their unis and saying "no mas" 5 minutes in.

    he caved on taxes, but Bush I was the last of a dying breed. he actually had the creds to be there. a real superstar on the merits; but far from the best politician.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,583
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    Smooth talk doesn't pay the rent. Obama had 8 years and........

    What do you mean and...? He drone striked thousands, fucked up healthcare even more, encouraged the exodus of American manufacturing, won a Nobel peace prize, and did a mean job reading off a teleprompter....
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