Serious Question for the Trump Bros
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Yeah, I could see it playing out that way. People have short memories.NorthwestFresh said:
Mattis’ article will be forgotten by tomorrow. If Biden hits Trump with it during a debate, Trump will say Mad Dog wanted more war in the Middle East, Trump didn’t want to send more troops there to die in an endless war, so Mad Dog “resigned.”creepycoug said:
I hear that, but I also think that yours is a subtle point to the average voter. A guy named "Mad Dog" and a military guy? Americans love that kind of character, and Trump let him retire quietly. Trump didn't give him a clever nickname, like Mopey Mattis or some shit, or rake him over the coals. It was "thank you for your service," and the country doesn't view him as some career DC insider. He's a Mad Dog Mattis.NorthwestFresh said:Mattis resigned/was fired because he disagreed with Drumpf’s decision to not go to war in Syria and to bring troops home from Afghanistan. What makes me laugh is The Left now backing Warmonger Mattis who wanted to kill more brown people in the Middle East. Mattis is a military-industrial complex puppet and they aren’t happy they haven’t got more war. Suddenly the Tug Corona Bros agree with Mattis, who wanted to kill more brown people but the racist Drumpf said no.
Does that answer your question?
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/20/623246756/defense-secretary-mattis-to-retire-in-february-trump-says
Defense Secretary Mattis Resigns Amid Syria And Afghanistan Tension
December 20, 20185:31 PM ET
Whatever the Corona Bros believe or don't believe won't matter, because you know they'll vote for Satan himself before supporting Trump.
IDK ... having Mattis come out with this right now seems like it could sting. FWIW, I also think it's REAL shitty timing because the country doesn't need anyone else fanning the flames.
Then Trump points out how Biden allowed Obama to start conflicts with those Muslims in the region and kill thousands there by drones.
It’s a loser for The Left to back Mad Dog. -
Only if he’s on the ballot.creepycoug said:
Whatever the Corona Bros believe or don't believe won't matter, because you know they'll vote for Satan himself before supporting Trump.NorthwestFresh said:Mattis resigned/was fired because he disagreed with Drumpf’s decision to not go to war in Syria and to bring troops home from Afghanistan. What makes me laugh is The Left now backing Warmonger Mattis who wanted to kill more brown people in the Middle East. Mattis is a military-industrial complex puppet and they aren’t happy they haven’t got more war. Suddenly the Tug Corona Bros agree with Mattis, who wanted to kill more brown people but the racist Drumpf said no.
Does that answer your question?
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/20/623246756/defense-secretary-mattis-to-retire-in-february-trump-says
Defense Secretary Mattis Resigns Amid Syria And Afghanistan Tension
December 20, 20185:31 PM ET
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Nobody will care about Mad Dog by tomorrow and he quit or was fired because he wanted more war and Trump said no and went against that advice. Not the hill to die on for Democrats. A real media would report this to their lemmings, but we have propagandists instead pushing agenda under the false label of “Journalism.”creepycoug said:
Yeah, I could see it playing out that way. People have short memories.NorthwestFresh said:
Mattis’ article will be forgotten by tomorrow. If Biden hits Trump with it during a debate, Trump will say Mad Dog wanted more war in the Middle East, Trump didn’t want to send more troops there to die in an endless war, so Mad Dog “resigned.”creepycoug said:
I hear that, but I also think that yours is a subtle point to the average voter. A guy named "Mad Dog" and a military guy? Americans love that kind of character, and Trump let him retire quietly. Trump didn't give him a clever nickname, like Mopey Mattis or some shit, or rake him over the coals. It was "thank you for your service," and the country doesn't view him as some career DC insider. He's a Mad Dog Mattis.NorthwestFresh said:Mattis resigned/was fired because he disagreed with Drumpf’s decision to not go to war in Syria and to bring troops home from Afghanistan. What makes me laugh is The Left now backing Warmonger Mattis who wanted to kill more brown people in the Middle East. Mattis is a military-industrial complex puppet and they aren’t happy they haven’t got more war. Suddenly the Tug Corona Bros agree with Mattis, who wanted to kill more brown people but the racist Drumpf said no.
Does that answer your question?
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/20/623246756/defense-secretary-mattis-to-retire-in-february-trump-says
Defense Secretary Mattis Resigns Amid Syria And Afghanistan Tension
December 20, 20185:31 PM ET
Whatever the Corona Bros believe or don't believe won't matter, because you know they'll vote for Satan himself before supporting Trump.
IDK ... having Mattis come out with this right now seems like it could sting. FWIW, I also think it's REAL shitty timing because the country doesn't need anyone else fanning the flames.
Then Trump points out how Biden allowed Obama to start conflicts with those Muslims in the region and kill thousands there by drones.
It’s a loser for The Left to back Mad Dog. -
Trump is definitely vulnerable.creepycoug said:is maintaining loyalty Trump's achilles heel? Mad Dog kept a low profile after his departure. Now he's popping off even without a Rose Bowl.
But does it matter? For the first tim, I'm actually starting to wonder if Trump is vulnerable, even against a complete fucking retard like Biden.
I didn't think the virus would do it. That felt foisted upon us all; and even though I couldn't settle on a view about whether Trump was doing a good job leading us through it (because sometimes I thought he was and other times not), I really didn't think the Hong Kong Flu was going to do him in. Something like a pandemic is intractable and the entire world was dealing with it in a global shit show.
But this thing now is entirely domestic and we?, the country, own it, for better or for worse. Now you have MD talking shit about Trump being divisive. It's early June. We're all going to blink and it's BOOM, we're in late August and everyone's attention will be on that big shift into life in the Fall.
I'm guessing this will all die down, and America's ridiculously short attention span will help Trump in that it'll be behind us by then. If the economy is back en fuego at that poont, I think he beats the Bidentard despite the stumbling. If not, then his foibles could catch up to him. Ironically, I don't think it'll be his best policies that will help him at that point because his best policies are somewhat of an abstraction for the average American. I also think running a heavy handed police force to manage this crisis will be forgiven, too, because the truth is, when the shit hits the fan, the average dip shit wants someone to handle it. The things we toss around here about statists is also an abstraction to the average American. I don't think they'll care. And for Trump to lose, he has to lose part of his base. -
I try not to pay attention to this shit until the end of days (just before election).
Post to piss lefties off.
I think Trump wants to lose - vulnerable? tired of all of it is more likely. I don't know many that could take the shit he has for the last 3 years.
I am more concerned that the press just doesn't give a shit about what has happened the last 4 years - their hate for Trumpster is so strong.
Too old to worry about this and what will happen in the next 20 years. Won't affect me unless I am forced to put up 15 illegals on my property. -
I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.NorthwestFresh said: -
LIPO.creepycoug said:
I think Trump missed out on a great opportunity for another nickname. I really think I have something in Mopey Maddis.NorthwestFresh said:
Marines I know are going to be really torn on this. They love Mattis, and most if not all are Trump voters. -
Yes and no.SFGbob said:
Trump is definitely vulnerable.creepycoug said:is maintaining loyalty Trump's achilles heel? Mad Dog kept a low profile after his departure. Now he's popping off even without a Rose Bowl.
But does it matter? For the first tim, I'm actually starting to wonder if Trump is vulnerable, even against a complete fucking retard like Biden.
I didn't think the virus would do it. That felt foisted upon us all; and even though I couldn't settle on a view about whether Trump was doing a good job leading us through it (because sometimes I thought he was and other times not), I really didn't think the Hong Kong Flu was going to do him in. Something like a pandemic is intractable and the entire world was dealing with it in a global shit show.
But this thing now is entirely domestic and we?, the country, own it, for better or for worse. Now you have MD talking shit about Trump being divisive. It's early June. We're all going to blink and it's BOOM, we're in late August and everyone's attention will be on that big shift into life in the Fall.
I'm guessing this will all die down, and America's ridiculously short attention span will help Trump in that it'll be behind us by then. If the economy is back en fuego at that poont, I think he beats the Bidentard despite the stumbling. If not, then his foibles could catch up to him. Ironically, I don't think it'll be his best policies that will help him at that point because his best policies are somewhat of an abstraction for the average American. I also think running a heavy handed police force to manage this crisis will be forgiven, too, because the truth is, when the shit hits the fan, the average dip shit wants someone to handle it. The things we toss around here about statists is also an abstraction to the average American. I don't think they'll care. And for Trump to lose, he has to lose part of his base.
He didn't win with independent voters before.
He won by carrying the weird poor populous part of the GOP and by stealing the white working class from the Dems. I don't see anything that has changed his appeal to those voters vid, riots, or otherwise.
Look no further than this bored to see how he's won over plenty of traditional GOP that stayed home last time.
I don't see a huge swing in independent voters happening either. Biden isn't the guy that's going to excite or win over that voter base.
Biden will carry the same people the Dems always do minus the white working class. That's not a winning formula. -
Of course Trump is vulnerable. Any GOP president is. Bush 1 by any measure should have won a second term rather easily. He lost.
