Remember the trade war
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Look it up, lazy-ass spinster.HHusky said:
I’m thrilled that it’s “a great deal for the country”. Could you share the details please? Everyone else seems to be in the dark about them.Bendintheriver said:
HH and his leadership elites are poo pooing the deal. Trump just did an amazing thing. HH and his leaders all wanted to stand pat where we were when we were 500 Billion in deficit and the Chinese were stealing trillions more in IP. 8 years of BO and they did nothing. Then they bitched like whiny little wimps when Trump made his move. Now the fucking hypocrites are bitching about the deal which is clearly a great deal for the country.HHusky said:The Administration declares victory. Very convincing.
Schumer and the low lifes he dictates over are out in force trying to deny the incredible thing Trump has done for the American people. It makes you wonder why they were happy letting the country lose. -
Why pay for what gullible US Democrats will let you steal for free?UW_Doog_Bot said:Good news for the short term markets but it's a stalling tactic by the CCP I have no doubt, just like everything they've ever agreed to in regards to the WTO etc. At least it seems like Trump understands enforcement is necessary or they'll just continue to lie.
I'm sure they are hoping Trump is gone in 2020 and Biden can give them the green light.
Also this, "Beijing also rejected a call to include a pledge not to hack US companies, arguing such a promise was not part of a trade deal." which effectively means that they'll continue tech transfer as a large portion of their GDP.
Best case scenario, this floats the economy past the world headwinds of 2020, helps Trump get re-elected, and he can double down on decoupling in the second term.
It really comes down to the fact that the economy and political system the CCP has built can't stand an actual free market. -
First, every American president since LBJ has adopted the neocon view that kowtowing to the chicoms would bring them economic success and then the realization that they needed to be a democratic republic and join the Federation and eat smores and sing Kumbaya around the international campfire. 50 years later we have Xi who still wants to steal our lunch and fancies himself as Mao II. Trump actually sees the reality. Leftards and the NeverTrumpers want to root for the away team. After phase I we still have large tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars of chicom trade. A large part of this has been eaten by the chicoms. A large part has been passed on to American businesses and consumers. Trump has also put the fear of God into businesses which are transitioning manufacturing out of China. The Chicoms have a far worse debt issue than we do and a population used to a fast growth economy. Their real estate bubble makes ours look like microscopic.
When the chicoms and Russians are rooting for a Biden win so they can continue to phu*ck us, then I don't need to be lectured about Trump being a Russian tool. Keep fracking and keep the tariffs on the chicoms.
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Lol, you're such a pretender. Tell me about current supply chains, or projected(not ccp) gdp data in China, or how domestic consumption differs. You know, since your very knowledgeable about economics.HHusky said:
The results are very unclear. The long term effects are unknown. And it amounts to little more than a truce at this point.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Regardless, just look at how the narrative has changed. No one but Trump was talking about this prior to 2016. Now it's a bipartisan issue and the only one still kowtowing is Biden.HHusky said:
Sounds like the war is still on.UW_Doog_Bot said:Good news for the short term markets but it's a stalling tactic by the CCP I have no doubt, just like everything they've ever agreed to in regards to the WTO etc. At least it seems like Trump understands enforcement is necessary or they'll just continue to lie.
I'm sure they are hoping Trump is gone in 2020 and Biden can give them the green light.
Also this, "Beijing also rejected a call to include a pledge not to hack US companies, arguing such a promise was not part of a trade deal." which effectively means that they'll continue tech transfer as a large portion of their GDP.
Best case scenario, this floats the economy past the world headwinds of 2020, helps Trump get re-elected, and he can double down on decoupling in the second term.
It really comes down to the fact that the economy and political system the CCP has built can't stand an actual free market.
It's also defied a lot of experts who said it would be a disaster for the US. There's no doubt that a lot of the perception and power has shifted to the US side of the table. It's the only reason that explains why the CCP would gift Trump a victory like this at all, they themselves are desperate.
Edit: CD might have had tds but at least he knew wtf economics was. -
CD was a pretender.
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Did a great job vacuuming the carpets at the local Edward Jones office, tho.WestlinnDuck said:CD was a pretender.
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Yet hes somehow less of a fag than bearswiinWestlinnDuck said:CD was a pretender.
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I read the China and USMCA deals means 2 trillion in trade. Damn that Trump!
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I gotta say here man, you are coming off like the guy who is going to see it his way no matter what is put under his nose. I hate that in people. It reminds me of arguing with Sledog on the Trayvon matter - obstinance for the sake of obstinance. Buckling down on China was always a good move, no matter who makes it.HHusky said:
One of us declared victory. Now you’re saying two thirds of the war remains.RaceBannon said:
What does part one of three mean to you?HHusky said:
Sounds like the war is still on.UW_Doog_Bot said:Good news for the short term markets but it's a stalling tactic by the CCP I have no doubt, just like everything they've ever agreed to in regards to the WTO etc. At least it seems like Trump understands enforcement is necessary or they'll just continue to lie.
I'm sure they are hoping Trump is gone in 2020 and Biden can give them the green light.
Also this, "Beijing also rejected a call to include a pledge not to hack US companies, arguing such a promise was not part of a trade deal." which effectively means that they'll continue tech transfer as a large portion of their GDP.
Best case scenario, this floats the economy past the world headwinds of 2020, helps Trump get re-elected, and he can double down on decoupling in the second term.
It really comes down to the fact that the economy and political system the CCP has built can't stand an actual free market.
You can ask a friend if you need to
I guess I was right again. #TiredOfAllTheWinning
I'm not a protectionist by any means or measure, but China has never been free trade. I have no issue with their economy growing even it means manufacturing jobs moving from here to there, as long as it's market driven. That's organic growth, that's real and they deserve it if they can get it.
But fuck ... even in the commodity business you have to go through a gauntlet of pick pockets at the port dock in China before you get anywhere near your markets, and even then you are faced with more obstacles. That we sell anything there at all is a minor miracle.
Free market theory works when everybody is playing free market. Not sometimes and when they feel like it. China bad.
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I can understand why the TDS team is upset. How does this help Iran?
