Justin Flowe - 4* 2020 LB - Upland (HS), CA - (Offered 1/29/18)

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

bananasnblondes said:

Oregon and UW will almost certainly have the top 2 classes in the Pac, interestingly it appears UW will finish with a superior offensive class while Oregon has the superior defensive class.

I'll be interested to see how having Lake as HC effects our defensive recruiting going forward

Difference is the elite talent Oregon is getting. If Oregon lands Flowe, Sewell and Ringo/Manning, that's three five star recruits who are difference makers as soon as they step on campus. As much as I love Smalls, he isn't that type of player, he needs a lot of coaching. If Washington wants to take the next step, they need to get that type of talent and right now they aren't getting it.

Sewell is more elite than Savell?

😂😂😂😂

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

bananasnblondes said:

Oregon and UW will almost certainly have the top 2 classes in the Pac, interestingly it appears UW will finish with a superior offensive class while Oregon has the superior defensive class.

I'll be interested to see how having Lake as HC effects our defensive recruiting going forward

Difference is the elite talent Oregon is getting. If Oregon lands Flowe, Sewell and Ringo/Manning, that's three five star recruits who are difference makers as soon as they step on campus. As much as I love Smalls, he isn't that type of player, he needs a lot of coaching. If Washington wants to take the next step, they need to get that type of talent and right now they aren't getting it.

Sewell is more elite than Savell?

😂😂😂😂

Heck yeah he is, anyone who would take Smalls over Sewell doesn't know football or is clearly biased. The tape doesn't lie and it's not even close right between them. The hope is Coach K can take the physical traits Smalls has and coach him up but Sewell is a guy who will start day one.

Because you played football. Ight bruh 😂😂😂😂

Sewell is not better than Savell. Savell plays a way more important position. He just has been in a good enough structure to he as dominant as he will be here.

Guess we will revisit this debate in a year and see how they both did. By the the Heisman trophy ceremony was today, did Eason win? Because according to you, Eason was a lock, especially after his performance against Eastern Washington.

KrunkJuice said:

sonics1993 said:

bananasnblondes said:

Oregon and UW will almost certainly have the top 2 classes in the Pac, interestingly it appears UW will finish with a superior offensive class while Oregon has the superior defensive class.

I'll be interested to see how having Lake as HC effects our defensive recruiting going forward

Difference is the elite talent Oregon is getting. If Oregon lands Flowe, Sewell and Ringo/Manning, that's three five star recruits who are difference makers as soon as they step on campus. As much as I love Smalls, he isn't that type of player, he needs a lot of coaching. If Washington wants to take the next step, they need to get that type of talent and right now they aren't getting it.

sonics1993 said:

bananasnblondes said:

Oregon and UW will almost certainly have the top 2 classes in the Pac, interestingly it appears UW will finish with a superior offensive class while Oregon has the superior defensive class.

I'll be interested to see how having Lake as HC effects our defensive recruiting going forward

Difference is the elite talent Oregon is getting. If Oregon lands Flowe, Sewell and Ringo/Manning, that's three five star recruits who are difference makers as soon as they step on campus. As much as I love Smalls, he isn't that type of player, he needs a lot of coaching. If Washington wants to take the next step, they need to get that type of talent and right now they aren't getting it.

Do you really think Ringo is a instant impact guy day 1? I think he is just as raw as Smalls but Flowe and Sewell would be instant impact from the start. I think Elias Ricks is light years ahead of Ringo in terms of development at this stage.

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

bananasnblondes said:

Oregon and UW will almost certainly have the top 2 classes in the Pac, interestingly it appears UW will finish with a superior offensive class while Oregon has the superior defensive class.

I'll be interested to see how having Lake as HC effects our defensive recruiting going forward

Difference is the elite talent Oregon is getting. If Oregon lands Flowe, Sewell and Ringo/Manning, that's three five star recruits who are difference makers as soon as they step on campus. As much as I love Smalls, he isn't that type of player, he needs a lot of coaching. If Washington wants to take the next step, they need to get that type of talent and right now they aren't getting it.

Sewell is more elite than Savell?

😂😂😂😂

Heck yeah he is, anyone who would take Smalls over Sewell doesn't know football or is clearly biased. The tape doesn't lie and it's not even close right between them. The hope is Coach K can take the physical traits Smalls has and coach him up but Sewell is a guy who will start day one.

Because you played football. Ight bruh 😂😂😂😂

Sewell is not better than Savell. Savell plays a way more important position. He just has been in a good enough structure to he as dominant as he will be here.

Guess we will revisit this debate in a year and see how they both did. By the the Heisman trophy ceremony was today, did Eason win? Because according to you, Eason was a lock, especially after his performance against Eastern Washington.

All I tweeted was #SkinnyForHeisman? Lol relax.

We aren’t rating them based on who is the better HS player. Sewell is just too big to play ILB. Flowe is good. But Sewell> Savell is the most silly thing I have ever heard.

Then you must have not been there when Smalls got panicked by a freshman lineman in high school in back to back reps, that shit was embarrassing. Like I said before Smalls has great physcial traits but like I don't expect him to contribute until year 2 at the earliest.

CallMeBigErn said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

bananasnblondes said:

Oregon and UW will almost certainly have the top 2 classes in the Pac, interestingly it appears UW will finish with a superior offensive class while Oregon has the superior defensive class.

I'll be interested to see how having Lake as HC effects our defensive recruiting going forward

Difference is the elite talent Oregon is getting. If Oregon lands Flowe, Sewell and Ringo/Manning, that's three five star recruits who are difference makers as soon as they step on campus. As much as I love Smalls, he isn't that type of player, he needs a lot of coaching. If Washington wants to take the next step, they need to get that type of talent and right now they aren't getting it.

Sewell is more elite than Savell?

😂😂😂😂

Heck yeah he is, anyone who would take Smalls over Sewell doesn't know football or is clearly biased. The tape doesn't lie and it's not even close right between them. The hope is Coach K can take the physical traits Smalls has and coach him up but Sewell is a guy who will start day one.

Because you played football. Ight bruh 😂😂😂😂

Sewell is not better than Savell. Savell plays a way more important position. He just has been in a good enough structure to he as dominant as he will be here.

"He just has been in a good enough structure to he as dominant as he will be here."

backthepack said:

Sav’ell was hurt his junior year, he still has some baby fat, and a baby face and hasn’t neared his peak physically even when compared to the JTT who is a year or two younger. Sav’ell hasn’t consistently trained at FSP/an elite training program like Hunter, Salvon, Kyler, and other great athletes we’ve had from FSP. The UDUB coaches will force him to be in a strict regimen, his Garfield years didnt help much. But this is the projection business.

OLB/Edge players take a while because of how difficult OL are to beat in college vs what their used to OL’s being in HS. He is 6’3.5 240, runs a 4.6, has elite small space quickness and feet that are quicker than any OLB’s in the country that allow him to be a matchup nightmare both when rushing the passer, dropping in coverage, or shedding blocks in the run game. He can literally be a complete player who makes so much money doing the most important thing you can do in football outside of throwing the football, rushing the guy who throws the football.

He can also eliminate his side of the field on short routes when dropping into pass. Think of the amazing play in coverage Tevis Bartlett had against Utah in the PAC-12 title. Sav’ell’s feet are godly compared to Tevis’ that were too slow to let him play ILB. In a different era Sav’ell could easily be a better ILB than both Flowe and Sewell. They are just much more physically developed than he is and have been in better structured team environments and have had better coaches etc.

Did your tutor write this?

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

Sav’ell was hurt his junior year, he still has some baby fat, and a baby face and hasn’t neared his peak physically even when compared to the JTT who is a year or two younger. Sav’ell hasn’t consistently trained at FSP/an elite training program like Hunter, Salvon, Kyler, and other great athletes we’ve had from FSP. The UDUB coaches will force him to be in a strict regimen, his Garfield years didnt help much. But this is the projection business.

OLB/Edge players take a while because of how difficult OL are to beat in college vs what their used to OL’s being in HS. He is 6’3.5 240, runs a 4.6, has elite small space quickness and feet that are quicker than any OLB’s in the country that allow him to be a matchup nightmare both when rushing the passer, dropping in coverage, or shedding blocks in the run game. He can literally be a complete player who makes so much money doing the most important thing you can do in football outside of throwing the football, rushing the guy who throws the football.

He can also eliminate his side of the field on short routes when dropping into pass. Think of the amazing play in coverage Tevis Bartlett had against Utah in the PAC-12 title. Sav’ell’s feet are godly compared to Tevis’ that were too slow to let him play ILB. In a different era Sav’ell could easily be a better ILB than both Flowe and Sewell. They are just much more physically developed than he is and have been in better structured team environments and have had better coaches etc.

Sorry, all I read was a bunch of excuses on why he's not a better player. He quit FSP training this spring, stopped competing and mocked players who did and basically didn't take his craft seriously while Sewell trained like crazy and competed in everything he could. And if we are talking about quickness and footspeed, Sewell blows Smalls out of the water which is what makes him so special. There is a reason why schools like Georgia, Ohio State and Alabama were going after Sewell while schools like Tennessee, Florida State and Washington State were pursuing Smalls.

backthepack said:

dnc said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

Sav’ell was hurt his junior year, he still has some baby fat, and a baby face and hasn’t neared his peak physically even when compared to the JTT who is a year or two younger. Sav’ell hasn’t consistently trained at FSP/an elite training program like Hunter, Salvon, Kyler, and other great athletes we’ve had from FSP. The UDUB coaches will force him to be in a strict regimen, his Garfield years didnt help much. But this is the projection business.

OLB/Edge players take a while because of how difficult OL are to beat in college vs what their used to OL’s being in HS. He is 6’3.5 240, runs a 4.6, has elite small space quickness and feet that are quicker than any OLB’s in the country that allow him to be a matchup nightmare both when rushing the passer, dropping in coverage, or shedding blocks in the run game. He can literally be a complete player who makes so much money doing the most important thing you can do in football outside of throwing the football, rushing the guy who throws the football.

He can also eliminate his side of the field on short routes when dropping into pass. Think of the amazing play in coverage Tevis Bartlett had against Utah in the PAC-12 title. Sav’ell’s feet are godly compared to Tevis’ that were too slow to let him play ILB. In a different era Sav’ell could easily be a better ILB than both Flowe and Sewell. They are just much more physically developed than he is and have been in better structured team environments and have had better coaches etc.

Sorry, all I read was a bunch of excuses on why he's not a better player. He quit FSP training this spring, stopped competing and mocked players who did and basically didn't take his craft seriously while Sewell trained like crazy and competed in everything he could. And if we are talking about quickness and footspeed, Sewell blows Smalls out of the water which is what makes him so special. There is a reason why schools like Georgia, Ohio State and Alabama were going after Sewell while schools like Tennessee, Florida State and Washington State were pursuing Smalls.

Excuses? Fine. He’s going to have structure. Again come back to me in 4 years when Sav’ell gets drafted higher than Noah. Again we aren’t ranking this off of who is the better HS prospect.


Also think it’s funny that you act like you played football. Haha. But go on!

Absolutely NOGAF if he played football or not.

Duh but he brought it up. That’s why it’s fine. “If you played football.”

Condescending prick gunna condescending prick I guess

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

Sav’ell was hurt his junior year, he still has some baby fat, and a baby face and hasn’t neared his peak physically even when compared to the JTT who is a year or two younger. Sav’ell hasn’t consistently trained at FSP/an elite training program like Hunter, Salvon, Kyler, and other great athletes we’ve had from FSP. The UDUB coaches will force him to be in a strict regimen, his Garfield years didnt help much. But this is the projection business.

OLB/Edge players take a while because of how difficult OL are to beat in college vs what their used to OL’s being in HS. He is 6’3.5 240, runs a 4.6, has elite small space quickness and feet that are quicker than any OLB’s in the country that allow him to be a matchup nightmare both when rushing the passer, dropping in coverage, or shedding blocks in the run game. He can literally be a complete player who makes so much money doing the most important thing you can do in football outside of throwing the football, rushing the guy who throws the football.

He can also eliminate his side of the field on short routes when dropping into pass. Think of the amazing play in coverage Tevis Bartlett had against Utah in the PAC-12 title. Sav’ell’s feet are godly compared to Tevis’ that were too slow to let him play ILB. In a different era Sav’ell could easily be a better ILB than both Flowe and Sewell. They are just much more physically developed than he is and have been in better structured team environments and have had better coaches etc.

Sorry, all I read was a bunch of excuses on why he's not a better player. He quit FSP training this spring, stopped competing and mocked players who did and basically didn't take his craft seriously while Sewell trained like crazy and competed in everything he could. And if we are talking about quickness and footspeed, Sewell blows Smalls out of the water which is what makes him so special. There is a reason why schools like Georgia, Ohio State and Alabama were going after Sewell while schools like Tennessee, Florida State and Washington State were pursuing Smalls.

dnc said:

dnc said:

backthepack said:

dnc said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

Sav’ell was hurt his junior year, he still has some baby fat, and a baby face and hasn’t neared his peak physically even when compared to the JTT who is a year or two younger. Sav’ell hasn’t consistently trained at FSP/an elite training program like Hunter, Salvon, Kyler, and other great athletes we’ve had from FSP. The UDUB coaches will force him to be in a strict regimen, his Garfield years didnt help much. But this is the projection business.

OLB/Edge players take a while because of how difficult OL are to beat in college vs what their used to OL’s being in HS. He is 6’3.5 240, runs a 4.6, has elite small space quickness and feet that are quicker than any OLB’s in the country that allow him to be a matchup nightmare both when rushing the passer, dropping in coverage, or shedding blocks in the run game. He can literally be a complete player who makes so much money doing the most important thing you can do in football outside of throwing the football, rushing the guy who throws the football.

He can also eliminate his side of the field on short routes when dropping into pass. Think of the amazing play in coverage Tevis Bartlett had against Utah in the PAC-12 title. Sav’ell’s feet are godly compared to Tevis’ that were too slow to let him play ILB. In a different era Sav’ell could easily be a better ILB than both Flowe and Sewell. They are just much more physically developed than he is and have been in better structured team environments and have had better coaches etc.

Sorry, all I read was a bunch of excuses on why he's not a better player. He quit FSP training this spring, stopped competing and mocked players who did and basically didn't take his craft seriously while Sewell trained like crazy and competed in everything he could. And if we are talking about quickness and footspeed, Sewell blows Smalls out of the water which is what makes him so special. There is a reason why schools like Georgia, Ohio State and Alabama were going after Sewell while schools like Tennessee, Florida State and Washington State were pursuing Smalls.

Excuses? Fine. He’s going to have structure. Again come back to me in 4 years when Sav’ell gets drafted higher than Noah. Again we aren’t ranking this off of who is the better HS prospect.


Also think it’s funny that you act like you played football. Haha. But go on!

Absolutely NOGAF if he played football or not.

Duh but he brought it up. That’s why it’s fine. “If you played football.”

Condescending prick gunna condescending prick I guess

I guess I missed that, I didn't see him post that at all.

I went back and reread the thread and i still don't see anywhere Sonics said anything about anyone playing football. A little help BTP?

backthepack said:

dnc said:

dnc said:

backthepack said:

dnc said:

backthepack said:

sonics1993 said:

backthepack said:

Sav’ell was hurt his junior year, he still has some baby fat, and a baby face and hasn’t neared his peak physically even when compared to the JTT who is a year or two younger. Sav’ell hasn’t consistently trained at FSP/an elite training program like Hunter, Salvon, Kyler, and other great athletes we’ve had from FSP. The UDUB coaches will force him to be in a strict regimen, his Garfield years didnt help much. But this is the projection business.

OLB/Edge players take a while because of how difficult OL are to beat in college vs what their used to OL’s being in HS. He is 6’3.5 240, runs a 4.6, has elite small space quickness and feet that are quicker than any OLB’s in the country that allow him to be a matchup nightmare both when rushing the passer, dropping in coverage, or shedding blocks in the run game. He can literally be a complete player who makes so much money doing the most important thing you can do in football outside of throwing the football, rushing the guy who throws the football.

He can also eliminate his side of the field on short routes when dropping into pass. Think of the amazing play in coverage Tevis Bartlett had against Utah in the PAC-12 title. Sav’ell’s feet are godly compared to Tevis’ that were too slow to let him play ILB. In a different era Sav’ell could easily be a better ILB than both Flowe and Sewell. They are just much more physically developed than he is and have been in better structured team environments and have had better coaches etc.

Sorry, all I read was a bunch of excuses on why he's not a better player. He quit FSP training this spring, stopped competing and mocked players who did and basically didn't take his craft seriously while Sewell trained like crazy and competed in everything he could. And if we are talking about quickness and footspeed, Sewell blows Smalls out of the water which is what makes him so special. There is a reason why schools like Georgia, Ohio State and Alabama were going after Sewell while schools like Tennessee, Florida State and Washington State were pursuing Smalls.

Excuses? Fine. He’s going to have structure. Again come back to me in 4 years when Sav’ell gets drafted higher than Noah. Again we aren’t ranking this off of who is the better HS prospect.


Also think it’s funny that you act like you played football. Haha. But go on!

Absolutely NOGAF if he played football or not.

Duh but he brought it up. That’s why it’s fine. “If you played football.”

Condescending prick gunna condescending prick I guess

I guess I missed that, I didn't see him post that at all.

I went back and reread the thread and i still don't see anywhere Sonics said anything about anyone playing football. A little help BTP?

“Doesn’t know football” same shit.

Funny that you have a Savell profile pic and think Sewell is better.

dnc said:

backthepack said:

Sav’ell was the #3 recruit in the country and stopped going to camps and on visits etc. He’s the better it’s not even close. Will be fun to see it play out lol.

Stopped going to camps because he had issues with them and FSP.

I like Savell a lot. I'm thrilled he's coming here. But he won't be an instant impact player, and it's not because you can't make an instant impact at edge (hi KT!).

Sewell is a monster. I'm not sure I'd trade Savell for Sewell but I'd trade Savell's 2020 season for Sewell's rather easily.

And I'd surely trade him for Flowe. Flowe's incredible.

Now's the part where you call me a doog for liking Oregon top D recruits better than Smalls.