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I tend to agree. But then you get unchintended consequences of mods(?) having to move tangental recruit hawt talk from the main boreds. Which then starts looking like @DerekReallyIsKimUW_Doog_Bot said:I think a $10 paywall for the recruiting boared is a decent compromise bc wtf is $10 in a year? There's a lot of shit that gets said in context on the site that isn't going to be presented in context to recruits or the public.
Racebannon being associated with Antifa is a prime example.
Maybe we shouldn't give a shit at all what the world thinks but it does suck to think of this place having a negative impact on recruiting. Idk, my mind isn't made up.
Also, whole lotta clueless fucking people that say stupid shit on a regular basis that we don't really want a spotlight put on.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
No doubt the numbers are not equal. I have thoughts on that of course but not hereGreenRiverGatorz said:
Disagree on the equivalency point, I think the chins to fuck off ratios seen in the tug clearly point to it being a right wing place. For my money Bob and Hondo are equally ridiculous (to say nothing of Sledog), yet only the latter has truly emerged as a bonafide punching bag for literally everyone.RaceBannon said:
You understand why every site ends up with one though don't you?GreenRiverGatorz said:
I agree that the Tug's probably not the problem, but it's also not adding any value. There's really no point to having a subsection of this site that is devoted to far right politics, especially when so many of the resident idiots there don't even post in the football forums.RaceBannon said:I don't think the tug is the issue, its when the tug comes to this board
There was a lot of stuff that made people uncomfortable when the Savell shit broke and the whole OKG drama and Pete is a racist
At the tug you know what you're getting. I don't think people liked it here
Speaking for me I didn't freak out at that whole thing because its good to clear the air
I can respect honest opinions of guys like @NorwegianHusky and @LaMichael_Corleone and agree with some and disagree with others.
This board should have more mutual respect but it has to be done by the posters not by a heavy hand IMO
People are generally uncomfortable talking about race and even more so in our super heated country today. They need to toughen up
In the course of everyday conversation something political will come up and the other side will be outraged its on a football board or answer back and then everyone trying to avoid political bullshit on a football board is seeing it and they get pissed off.
You only delete right wing stuff
You only delete left wing stuff
Ok lets start a politics board and you guys keep it there
Edit to say the tug has both extremes well represented. You calling it an extreme right wing site proves my point about politics on non political boards
But good point on the Tug being the storm water drain for oppressed political speech in the football forums. But I still think that outlet should be elsewhere, especially when you have people like Sledog unironically referring to gay folks as fags on a daily basis. That's not a good look for the site, and I don't think removing that element necessarily undermines the mission of this being a place that celebrates debauchery and candidness.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTWUW_Doog_Bot said:
I think a $10 paywall for the recruiting boared is a decent compromise bc wtf is $10 in a year? There's a lot of shit that gets said in context on the site that isn't going to be presented in context to recruits or the public.
Racebannon being associated with Antifa is a prime example.
Maybe we shouldn't give a shit at all what the world thinks but it does suck to think of this place having a negative impact on recruiting. Idk, my mind isn't made up.
Also, whole lotta clueless fucking people that say stupid shit on a regular basis that we don't really want a spotlight put on.
Frankly, even $1 would likely do the trick. It's amazing how much people act differently when anonymity is taken away. -
Which is why I send my donations to Derek in cash, no return address.Sources said:UW_Doog_Bot said:I think a $10 paywall for the recruiting boared is a decent compromise bc wtf is $10 in a year? There's a lot of shit that gets said in context on the site that isn't going to be presented in context to recruits or the public.
Racebannon being associated with Antifa is a prime example.
Maybe we shouldn't give a shit at all what the world thinks but it does suck to think of this place having a negative impact on recruiting. Idk, my mind isn't made up.
Also, whole lotta clueless fucking people that say stupid shit on a regular basis that we don't really want a spotlight put on.
Frankly, even $1 would likely do the trick. It's amazing how much people act differently when anonymity is taken away. -
Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW@RaceBannon I don't feel like going mainstream, and I'm one of the bigger recruiting noids, and tend to pilfer legit information and bring it here.
I never venture into the tug, because it's not my scene and I don't want to debate. I just want to follow husky football, follow husky recruiting, and doog the fuck out.
I also want to post gifs, make fun of people, and call people on their shit. I also like seeing nudes in the WAM and having a "what happens in chat stays in chat" location.
Look at it this way:
I've been a member of Realdawg in the past and never posted on the message board once. I've been a member of Dawgman for years and have only posted a dozen times or so.
Here is my first poast here at HH:
I'm like a fucking unicorn because I hardly ever post. So when I do post something I put at least a little thought into it and expect some kind of acknowledgement. Those buttplugs didn't even have the decency to tell me to fuck off or leave before they deleted my shit.
Looked around for a UW site that wouldn't delete my posts without reasons and saw this place. Not only are you fuckers funny but you even post my shit for me. Shoutout to @insinceredawg for stalking my work.
I'm more of a voyeur than an exhibitionist, but this place seems like you'll at least tickle my balls a little when I do. And that's something anyone can enjoy.
Legitimately, I thought I would poast here as often as I did at Doogman, which was basically never. Realdawg I never made a single poast.
I've been a member of HH since February of 2018 and have 3,400 poasts. I found my Mecca. I found my people.
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I recall seeing your first during my lurking days. Like some kind of retard Doog I yelled out "STAY!" to an empty room.DoogCourics said:@RaceBannon I don't feel like going mainstream, and I'm one of the bigger recruiting noids, and tend to pilfer legit information and bring it here.
I never venture into the tug, because it's not my scene and I don't want to debate. I just want to follow husky football, follow husky recruiting, and doog the fuck out.
I also want to post gifs, make fun of people, and call people on their shit. I also like seeing nudes in the WAM and having a "what happens in chat stays in chat" location.
Look at it this way:
I've been a member of Realdawg in the past and never posted on the message board once. I've been a member of Dawgman for years and have only posted a dozen times or so.
Here is my first poast here at HH:
I'm like a fucking unicorn because I hardly ever post. So when I do post something I put at least a little thought into it and expect some kind of acknowledgement. Those buttplugs didn't even have the decency to tell me to fuck off or leave before they deleted my shit.
Looked around for a UW site that wouldn't delete my posts without reasons and saw this place. Not only are you fuckers funny but you even post my shit for me. Shoutout to @insinceredawg for stalking my work.
I'm more of a voyeur than an exhibitionist, but this place seems like you'll at least tickle my balls a little when I do. And that's something anyone can enjoy.
Legitimately, I thought I would poast here as often as I did at Doogman, which was basically never. Realdawg I never made a single poast.
I've been a member of HH since February of 2018 and have 3,400 poasts. I found my Mecca. I found my people.
If I wanted this place to be legitimate, I wouldn't be here. -
Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
Great postDoogCourics said:@RaceBannon I don't feel like going mainstream, and I'm one of the bigger recruiting noids, and tend to pilfer legit information and bring it here.
I never venture into the tug, because it's not my scene and I don't want to debate. I just want to follow husky football, follow husky recruiting, and doog the fuck out.
I also want to post gifs, make fun of people, and call people on their shit. I also like seeing nudes in the WAM and having a "what happens in chat stays in chat" location.
Look at it this way:
I've been a member of Realdawg in the past and never posted on the message board once. I've been a member of Dawgman for years and have only posted a dozen times or so.
Here is my first poast here at HH:
I'm like a fucking unicorn because I hardly ever post. So when I do post something I put at least a little thought into it and expect some kind of acknowledgement. Those buttplugs didn't even have the decency to tell me to fuck off or leave before they deleted my shit.
Looked around for a UW site that wouldn't delete my posts without reasons and saw this place. Not only are you fuckers funny but you even post my shit for me. Shoutout to @insinceredawg for stalking my work.
I'm more of a voyeur than an exhibitionist, but this place seems like you'll at least tickle my balls a little when I do. And that's something anyone can enjoy.
Legitimately, I thought I would poast here as often as I did at Doogman, which was basically never. Realdawg I never made a single poast.
I've been a member of HH since February of 2018 and have 3,400 poasts. I found my Mecca. I found my people.
If I wanted this place to be legitimate, I wouldn't be here. -
Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
Did Chest do that? I'm under the impression he was never banned and can come back at any time but he chooses not to.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Addendum: That is assuming no one takes a big steamy shit on Derek like Chester did on the way out the door.GrundleStiltzkin said:And for the record, I wish nothing but the best for BDTWv2 cuz I'm Nebraska classy like that. But I think that's more in the dawhman space. You can't try for the mainstream and have the hijinx we do at the same tim, just can't.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW@HeretoBeatmyChest
Dude there are some quooks that have joint HH to poast in the tug exclusivelyRapeculturedawg said:Went into the tug for the first time in years, see several handles ive never seen before, left the tug..
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
Never mind, you already answered my question.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Did Chest do that? I'm under the impression he was never banned and can come back at any time but he chooses not to.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Addendum: That is assuming no one takes a big steamy shit on Derek like Chester did on the way out the door.GrundleStiltzkin said:And for the record, I wish nothing but the best for BDTWv2 cuz I'm Nebraska classy like that. But I think that's more in the dawhman space. You can't try for the mainstream and have the hijinx we do at the same tim, just can't.
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I'll defer to mod-memory on that. I do recall Derek saying Chester was welcome back anytim and he isn't banned.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Did Chest do that? I'm under the impression he was never banned and can come back at any time but he chooses not to.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Addendum: That is assuming no one takes a big steamy shit on Derek like Chester did on the way out the door.GrundleStiltzkin said:And for the record, I wish nothing but the best for BDTWv2 cuz I'm Nebraska classy like that. But I think that's more in the dawhman space. You can't try for the mainstream and have the hijinx we do at the same tim, just can't.
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Maybe also a parent casually checking out the boards would do a u-turn at the request of registering a payment, and any potentially offensive content is slightly less accessible.Sources said:UW_Doog_Bot said:I think a $10 paywall for the recruiting boared is a decent compromise bc wtf is $10 in a year? There's a lot of shit that gets said in context on the site that isn't going to be presented in context to recruits or the public.
Racebannon being associated with Antifa is a prime example.
Maybe we shouldn't give a shit at all what the world thinks but it does suck to think of this place having a negative impact on recruiting. Idk, my mind isn't made up.
Also, whole lotta clueless fucking people that say stupid shit on a regular basis that we don't really want a spotlight put on.
Frankly, even $1 would likely do the trick. It's amazing how much people act differently when anonymity is taken away. -
Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
HurtfulUW_Doog_Bot said:I think a $10 paywall for the recruiting boared is a decent compromise bc wtf is $10 in a year? There's a lot of shit that gets said in context on the site that isn't going to be presented in context to recruits or the public.
Racebannon being associated with Antifa is a prime example.
Maybe we shouldn't give a shit at all what the world thinks but it does suck to think of this place having a negative impact on recruiting. Idk, my mind isn't made up.
Also, whole lotta clueless fucking people that say stupid shit on a regular basis that we don't really want a spotlight put on. -
Let's go legit and tell Race and his Antifa buddies to go start another racist cesspool of humanity and crush BDTWChest took his biggest shots at Derek (and the rest of us) on Twitter, IIRC.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
Praise AllahDoogCourics said:@RaceBannon I don't feel like going mainstream, and I'm one of the bigger recruiting noids, and tend to pilfer legit information and bring it here.
I never venture into the tug, because it's not my scene and I don't want to debate. I just want to follow husky football, follow husky recruiting, and doog the fuck out.
I also want to post gifs, make fun of people, and call people on their shit. I also like seeing nudes in the WAM and having a "what happens in chat stays in chat" location.
Look at it this way:
I've been a member of Realdawg in the past and never posted on the message board once. I've been a member of Dawgman for years and have only posted a dozen times or so.
Here is my first poast here at HH:
I'm like a fucking unicorn because I hardly ever post. So when I do post something I put at least a little thought into it and expect some kind of acknowledgement. Those buttplugs didn't even have the decency to tell me to fuck off or leave before they deleted my shit.
Looked around for a UW site that wouldn't delete my posts without reasons and saw this place. Not only are you fuckers funny but you even post my shit for me. Shoutout to @insinceredawg for stalking my work.
I'm more of a voyeur than an exhibitionist, but this place seems like you'll at least tickle my balls a little when I do. And that's something anyone can enjoy.
Legitimately, I thought I would poast here as often as I did at Doogman, which was basically never. Realdawg I never made a single poast.
I've been a member of HH since February of 2018 and have 3,400 poasts. I found my Mecca. I found my people.
If I wanted this place to be legitimate, I wouldn't be here. -
Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTWI'm not a fan of paywalling anything. I'd pay it if it happened, but I think it would take away some of the greatness of HH for a few reasons.
One of the main things that stands out about HH for me is how it destroys the doogman and realdoog notion that real info and analysis has to rely on "insider access" and "expertise" that costs money to generate and share. The amount of information flowing through this place thanks to a handful of ambitious folks stalking social media, creeping around at practices etc and pasting excerpts from articles proves what a scam those other sites are running. I'd hate to see that aspect, which to me is part of the foundation of hardcore husky, fade into generic paysite oblivion
Others have pointed out some of the common consequences of a site with mixed pay and free boards. One example is how information spills from the pay boards inappropriately generating aids threads on the free boards and upping the need for moderation. I'm not subscriber to slippery slope paranoia as a rule, but I would caution people about what sort of model you want to follow here. That model, with pay boards containing all the good info while the freebies turn to aids because little quality info is allowed to be shared there, seems too similar to those other sites to me. -
I care about forum drama even less than I care about any of you fucks' political opinions. I'm literally just here to stock teen bois.
That being said, Antifa is objectively good. You fucks baited me into that one. Not reading the replies. I hope you all get hookworms. -
I figure anyone that donates gets an auto membership to the recruit board.chuck said:I'm not a fan of paywalling anything. I'd pay it if it happened, but I think it would take away some of the greatness of HH for a few reasons.
One of the main things that stands out about HH for me is how it destroys the doogman and realdoog notion that real info and analysis has to rely on "insider access" and "expertise" that costs money to generate and share. The amount of information flowing through this place thanks to a handful of ambitious folks stalking social media, creeping around at practices etc and pasting excerpts from articles proves what a scam those other sites are running. I'd hate to see that aspect, which to me is part of the foundation of hardcore husky, fade into generic paysite oblivion
Others have pointed out some of the common consequences of a site with mixed pay and free boards. One example is how information spills from the pay boards inappropriately generating aids threads on the free boards and upping the need for moderation. I'm not subscriber to slippery slope paranoia as a rule, but I would caution people about what sort of model you want to follow here. That model, with pay boards containing all the good info while the freebies turn to aids because little quality info is allowed to be shared there, seems too similar to those other sites to me.
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fixedUWhuskytskeet said:
I figure anyone that donates Wam level funds gets an auto membership to the recruit board.chuck said:I'm not a fan of paywalling anything. I'd pay it if it happened, but I think it would take away some of the greatness of HH for a few reasons.
One of the main things that stands out about HH for me is how it destroys the doogman and realdoog notion that real info and analysis has to rely on "insider access" and "expertise" that costs money to generate and share. The amount of information flowing through this place thanks to a handful of ambitious folks stalking social media, creeping around at practices etc and pasting excerpts from articles proves what a scam those other sites are running. I'd hate to see that aspect, which to me is part of the foundation of hardcore husky, fade into generic paysite oblivion
Others have pointed out some of the common consequences of a site with mixed pay and free boards. One example is how information spills from the pay boards inappropriately generating aids threads on the free boards and upping the need for moderation. I'm not subscriber to slippery slope paranoia as a rule, but I would caution people about what sort of model you want to follow here. That model, with pay boards containing all the good info while the freebies turn to aids because little quality info is allowed to be shared there, seems too similar to those other sites to me.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW100% agree with Race that the Tug is a necessary evil to prevent political talk on the mainstream boards. However, there’s hasn’t been a good enough effort to keep Tug talk in the Tug... and that’s a huge problem imo. Needs to be policed better. Same goes for Wam talk
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTWSo I don't want to crush BDTW. I know or have met a couple of those guys and I also don't think we're competing for the same market share. I think they will produce some really good content and hopefully lots of charts because we all love charts. I'm a little bummed a couple of them have left here entirely, mainly @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @AIRWOLF. I know Coker left after the failed launch of BDTW at the beginning of the year and I don't know when Airwolf left.
From interacting on Twitter with quite a few of the folks who've left: Coker, Airwolf, Chest, I get the impression that some of the borderline or even overt racist remarks drove them away. Quite a few of them lean to the left and we all know Stalin is a right-wing dictator so there might be some of that.
Regarding HH overall, I like it being the Wild West. When Stalin started this place, I apparently was one of the first people he talked to about it (I'm kind of a big deal I guess) and I remember him saying something along the lines of no censorship and he's kept pretty true to that. I liked the idea so much that I helped fund it to get it started and also because I have an intense hatred of Kim, F3 and Eklund (I hate Eklund the least). Someone in the Wam noticed I didn't have a Wam donation badge. Stalin grandfathered me in because of my early donations. Going back to me liking this place so much, I said fuck it and made a Wam level donation this week and will do so moving forward (mostly out of love for our Noble Red Savage).
While I like the Wild West aspect of this place, I also realize that people associate us with UW football and that parents of recruits really do read the message boreds. Because of that, we can't have dumb motherfuckers making racist remarks and dogging on players to the point that kids or their parents don't want them going to UW. When Smalls gave the interview to the recruiting guy saying he dropped UW, I was like whatever dude but damn, some mother fuckers out there lost their shit over a 17-year old and acted like a bunch of bitches calling him names or hoping that he sucks wherever he goes and that kinda shit is over the line to me.
Anyway, this might be my longest poast (hardy har har) ever but before I go. This gif sums up my feelings about the Tug. By the way, I stopped at the real Tug in June when I was in Seattle, it's slightly better than our? Tug.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
As a mod, I'll tell you if you see something that looks like it belongs in the Tug, post in the thread to move it. I know I gloss over a lot of shit but when I see someone mention that a thread has FBA and needs to go to the Tug, I move it.NEsnake12 said:100% agree with Race that the Tug is a necessary evil to prevent political talk on the mainstream boards. However, there’s hasn’t been a good enough effort to keep Tug talk in the Tug... and that’s a huge problem imo. Needs to be policed better. Same goes for Wam talk
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What about simply needing to register to view the recruiting boareds? I realize that's a low bar but I think we underestimate the number of pure lurkers.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
I dont either. I want them to succeed so I have two sites to visit on those days where I really dont want to work. I dont know any of those guys for real but I think I like them as people, even that fucking crazy one with the horrific taste in music. I also value their knowledge and opinions.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:So I don't want to crush BDTW. I know or have met a couple of those guys and I also don't think we're competing for the same market share. I think they will produce some really good content and hopefully lots of charts because we all love charts. I'm a little bummed a couple of them have left here entirely, mainly @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @AIRWOLF. I know Coker left after the failed launch of BDTW at the beginning of the year and I don't know when Airwolf left.
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What is BTDW?RaceBannon said:Do you want this site to be legit and eventually end up like doogman because once you start giving into the "this place is rancid" crowd you can never stop. We? could have nice things like teen boy experts who answer your questions. Or just keep rolling along until the world at large becomes as rancid as we? are?
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
This makes the most sense to me. It keeps the free nature of the site while even the smallest hurdle will deter parents and other coaches unless they decide to make an account. I figure most won't.UW_Doog_Bot said:What about simply needing to register to view the recruiting boareds? I realize that's a low bar but I think we underestimate the number of pure lurkers.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
A bondage websiteBennyBeaver said:
What is BTDW?RaceBannon said:Do you want this site to be legit and eventually end up like doogman because once you start giving into the "this place is rancid" crowd you can never stop. We? could have nice things like teen boy experts who answer your questions. Or just keep rolling along until the world at large becomes as rancid as we? are?
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Let's go legit and tell Race and his Antifa buddies to go start another racist cesspool of humanity and crush BDTW
AGREE with all of this but most of the racial stuff on this bored has it's genesis with the TSIO's obsession with race.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:So I don't want to crush BDTW. I know or have met a couple of those guys and I also don't think we're competing for the same market share. I think they will produce some really good content and hopefully lots of charts because we all love charts. I'm a little bummed a couple of them have left here entirely, mainly @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @AIRWOLF. I know Coker left after the failed launch of BDTW at the beginning of the year and I don't know when Airwolf left.
From interacting on Twitter with quite a few of the folks who've left: Coker, Airwolf, Chest, I get the impression that some of the borderline or even overt racist remarks drove them away. Quite a few of them lean to the left and we all know Stalin is a right-wing dictator so there might be some of that.
Regarding HH overall, I like it being the Wild West. When Stalin started this place, I apparently was one of the first people he talked to about it (I'm kind of a big deal I guess) and I remember him saying something along the lines of no censorship and he's kept pretty true to that. I liked the idea so much that I helped fund it to get it started and also because I have an intense hatred of Kim, F3 and Eklund (I hate Eklund the least). Someone in the Wam noticed I didn't have a Wam donation badge. Stalin grandfathered me in because of my early donations. Going back to me liking this place so much, I said fuck it and made a Wam level donation this week and will do so moving forward (mostly out of love for our Noble Red Savage).
While I like the Wild West aspect of this place, I also realize that people associate us with UW football and that parents of recruits really do read the message boreds. Because of that, we can't have dumb motherfuckers making racist remarks and dogging on players to the point that kids or their parents don't want them going to UW. When Smalls gave the interview to the recruiting guy saying he dropped UW, I was like whatever dude but damn, some mother fuckers out there lost their shit over a 17-year old and acted like a bunch of bitches calling him names or hoping that he sucks wherever he goes and that kinda shit is over the line to me.
Anyway, this might be my longest poast (hardy har har) ever but before I go. This gif sums up my feelings about the Tug. By the way, I stopped at the real Tug in June when I was in Seattle, it's slightly better than our? Tug.
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Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
Now that's the kind of compromise I would expect from a smart motherfucker like @UW_Doog_Bot.UW_Doog_Bot said:What about simply needing to register to view the recruiting boareds? I realize that's a low bar but I think we underestimate the number of pure lurkers.
At the very least it would give mods a better idea of who's viewing the board and track the impact of some of our dipshittery, especially as it relates to families of recruits. Not that we would then police the boards more in response, but getting a better idea of the reach of HH could never be a bad thing.