And for the record, I wish nothing but the best for BDTWv2 cuz I'm Nebraska classy like that. But I think that's more in the dawhman space. You can't try for the mainstream and have the hijinx we do at the same tim, just can't.
Addendum: That is assuming no one takes a big steamy shit on Derek like Chester did on the way out the door.
Did Chest do that? I'm under the impression he was never banned and can come back at any time but he chooses not to.
I'll defer to mod-memory on that. I do recall Derek saying Chester was welcome back anytim and he isn't banned.
I think a $10 paywall for the recruiting boared is a decent compromise bc wtf is $10 in a year? There's a lot of shit that gets said in context on the site that isn't going to be presented in context to recruits or the public.
Racebannon being associated with Antifa is a prime example.
Maybe we shouldn't give a shit at all what the world thinks but it does suck to think of this place having a negative impact on recruiting. Idk, my mind isn't made up.
Also, whole lotta clueless fucking people that say stupid shit on a regular basis that we don't really want a spotlight put on.
Frankly, even $1 would likely do the trick. It's amazing how much people act differently when anonymity is taken away.
Maybe also a parent casually checking out the boards would do a u-turn at the request of registering a payment, and any potentially offensive content is slightly less accessible.
I think a $10 paywall for the recruiting boared is a decent compromise bc wtf is $10 in a year? There's a lot of shit that gets said in context on the site that isn't going to be presented in context to recruits or the public.
Racebannon being associated with Antifa is a prime example.
Maybe we shouldn't give a shit at all what the world thinks but it does suck to think of this place having a negative impact on recruiting. Idk, my mind isn't made up.
Also, whole lotta clueless fucking people that say stupid shit on a regular basis that we don't really want a spotlight put on.
@RaceBannon I don't feel like going mainstream, and I'm one of the bigger recruiting noids, and tend to pilfer legit information and bring it here.
I never venture into the tug, because it's not my scene and I don't want to debate. I just want to follow husky football, follow husky recruiting, and doog the fuck out.
I also want to post gifs, make fun of people, and call people on their shit. I also like seeing nudes in the WAM and having a "what happens in chat stays in chat" location.
Look at it this way:
I've been a member of Realdawg in the past and never posted on the message board once. I've been a member of Dawgman for years and have only posted a dozen times or so.
Here is my first poast here at HH:
I'm like a fucking unicorn because I hardly ever post. So when I do post something I put at least a little thought into it and expect some kind of acknowledgement. Those buttplugs didn't even have the decency to tell me to fuck off or leave before they deleted my shit.
Looked around for a UW site that wouldn't delete my posts without reasons and saw this place. Not only are you fuckers funny but you even post my shit for me. Shoutout to @insinceredawg for stalking my work.
I'm more of a voyeur than an exhibitionist, but this place seems like you'll at least tickle my balls a little when I do. And that's something anyone can enjoy.
Legitimately, I thought I would poast here as often as I did at Doogman, which was basically never. Realdawg I never made a single poast.
I've been a member of HH since February of 2018 and have 3,400 poasts. I found my Mecca. I found my people.
If I wanted this place to be legitimate, I wouldn't be here.
Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
I'm not a fan of paywalling anything. I'd pay it if it happened, but I think it would take away some of the greatness of HH for a few reasons.
One of the main things that stands out about HH for me is how it destroys the doogman and realdoog notion that real info and analysis has to rely on "insider access" and "expertise" that costs money to generate and share. The amount of information flowing through this place thanks to a handful of ambitious folks stalking social media, creeping around at practices etc and pasting excerpts from articles proves what a scam those other sites are running. I'd hate to see that aspect, which to me is part of the foundation of hardcore husky, fade into generic paysite oblivion
Others have pointed out some of the common consequences of a site with mixed pay and free boards. One example is how information spills from the pay boards inappropriately generating aids threads on the free boards and upping the need for moderation. I'm not subscriber to slippery slope paranoia as a rule, but I would caution people about what sort of model you want to follow here. That model, with pay boards containing all the good info while the freebies turn to aids because little quality info is allowed to be shared there, seems too similar to those other sites to me.
I'm not a fan of paywalling anything. I'd pay it if it happened, but I think it would take away some of the greatness of HH for a few reasons.
One of the main things that stands out about HH for me is how it destroys the doogman and realdoog notion that real info and analysis has to rely on "insider access" and "expertise" that costs money to generate and share. The amount of information flowing through this place thanks to a handful of ambitious folks stalking social media, creeping around at practices etc and pasting excerpts from articles proves what a scam those other sites are running. I'd hate to see that aspect, which to me is part of the foundation of hardcore husky, fade into generic paysite oblivion
Others have pointed out some of the common consequences of a site with mixed pay and free boards. One example is how information spills from the pay boards inappropriately generating aids threads on the free boards and upping the need for moderation. I'm not subscriber to slippery slope paranoia as a rule, but I would caution people about what sort of model you want to follow here. That model, with pay boards containing all the good info while the freebies turn to aids because little quality info is allowed to be shared there, seems too similar to those other sites to me.
I figure anyone that donates gets an auto membership to the recruit board.
I'm not a fan of paywalling anything. I'd pay it if it happened, but I think it would take away some of the greatness of HH for a few reasons.
One of the main things that stands out about HH for me is how it destroys the doogman and realdoog notion that real info and analysis has to rely on "insider access" and "expertise" that costs money to generate and share. The amount of information flowing through this place thanks to a handful of ambitious folks stalking social media, creeping around at practices etc and pasting excerpts from articles proves what a scam those other sites are running. I'd hate to see that aspect, which to me is part of the foundation of hardcore husky, fade into generic paysite oblivion
Others have pointed out some of the common consequences of a site with mixed pay and free boards. One example is how information spills from the pay boards inappropriately generating aids threads on the free boards and upping the need for moderation. I'm not subscriber to slippery slope paranoia as a rule, but I would caution people about what sort of model you want to follow here. That model, with pay boards containing all the good info while the freebies turn to aids because little quality info is allowed to be shared there, seems too similar to those other sites to me.
I figure anyone that donates Wam level funds gets an auto membership to the recruit board.
Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
100% agree with Race that the Tug is a necessary evil to prevent political talk on the mainstream boards. However, there’s hasn’t been a good enough effort to keep Tug talk in the Tug... and that’s a huge problem imo. Needs to be policed better. Same goes for Wam talk
Fuck off. We are who we are and we will crush BDTW
So I don't want to crush BDTW. I know or have met a couple of those guys and I also don't think we're competing for the same market share. I think they will produce some really good content and hopefully lots of charts because we all love charts. I'm a little bummed a couple of them have left here entirely, mainly @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @AIRWOLF. I know Coker left after the failed launch of BDTW at the beginning of the year and I don't know when Airwolf left.
From interacting on Twitter with quite a few of the folks who've left: Coker, Airwolf, Chest, I get the impression that some of the borderline or even overt racist remarks drove them away. Quite a few of them lean to the left and we all know Stalin is a right-wing dictator so there might be some of that.
Regarding HH overall, I like it being the Wild West. When Stalin started this place, I apparently was one of the first people he talked to about it (I'm kind of a big deal I guess) and I remember him saying something along the lines of no censorship and he's kept pretty true to that. I liked the idea so much that I helped fund it to get it started and also because I have an intense hatred of Kim, F3 and Eklund (I hate Eklund the least). Someone in the Wam noticed I didn't have a Wam donation badge. Stalin grandfathered me in because of my early donations. Going back to me liking this place so much, I said fuck it and made a Wam level donation this week and will do so moving forward (mostly out of love for our Noble Red Savage).
While I like the Wild West aspect of this place, I also realize that people associate us with UW football and that parents of recruits really do read the message boreds. Because of that, we can't have dumb motherfuckers making racist remarks and dogging on players to the point that kids or their parents don't want them going to UW. When Smalls gave the interview to the recruiting guy saying he dropped UW, I was like whatever dude but damn, some mother fuckers out there lost their shit over a 17-year old and acted like a bunch of bitches calling him names or hoping that he sucks wherever he goes and that kinda shit is over the line to me.
Anyway, this might be my longest poast (hardy har har) ever but before I go. This gif sums up my feelings about the Tug. By the way, I stopped at the real Tug in June when I was in Seattle, it's slightly better than our? Tug.
100% agree with Race that the Tug is a necessary evil to prevent political talk on the mainstream boards. However, there’s hasn’t been a good enough effort to keep Tug talk in the Tug... and that’s a huge problem imo. Needs to be policed better. Same goes for Wam talk
As a mod, I'll tell you if you see something that looks like it belongs in the Tug, post in the thread to move it. I know I gloss over a lot of shit but when I see someone mention that a thread has FBA and needs to go to the Tug, I move it.
What about simply needing to register to view the recruiting boareds? I realize that's a low bar but I think we underestimate the number of pure lurkers.
So I don't want to crush BDTW. I know or have met a couple of those guys and I also don't think we're competing for the same market share. I think they will produce some really good content and hopefully lots of charts because we all love charts. I'm a little bummed a couple of them have left here entirely, mainly @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @AIRWOLF. I know Coker left after the failed launch of BDTW at the beginning of the year and I don't know when Airwolf left.
I dont either. I want them to succeed so I have two sites to visit on those days where I really dont want to work. I dont know any of those guys for real but I think I like them as people, even that fucking crazy one with the horrific taste in music. I also value their knowledge and opinions.
Do you want this site to be legit and eventually end up like doogman because once you start giving into the "this place is rancid" crowd you can never stop. We? could have nice things like teen boy experts who answer your questions. Or just keep rolling along until the world at large becomes as rancid as we? are?
What about simply needing to register to view the recruiting boareds? I realize that's a low bar but I think we underestimate the number of pure lurkers.
This makes the most sense to me. It keeps the free nature of the site while even the smallest hurdle will deter parents and other coaches unless they decide to make an account. I figure most won't.
Do you want this site to be legit and eventually end up like doogman because once you start giving into the "this place is rancid" crowd you can never stop. We? could have nice things like teen boy experts who answer your questions. Or just keep rolling along until the world at large becomes as rancid as we? are?
So I don't want to crush BDTW. I know or have met a couple of those guys and I also don't think we're competing for the same market share. I think they will produce some really good content and hopefully lots of charts because we all love charts. I'm a little bummed a couple of them have left here entirely, mainly @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @AIRWOLF. I know Coker left after the failed launch of BDTW at the beginning of the year and I don't know when Airwolf left.
From interacting on Twitter with quite a few of the folks who've left: Coker, Airwolf, Chest, I get the impression that some of the borderline or even overt racist remarks drove them away. Quite a few of them lean to the left and we all know Stalin is a right-wing dictator so there might be some of that.
Regarding HH overall, I like it being the Wild West. When Stalin started this place, I apparently was one of the first people he talked to about it (I'm kind of a big deal I guess) and I remember him saying something along the lines of no censorship and he's kept pretty true to that. I liked the idea so much that I helped fund it to get it started and also because I have an intense hatred of Kim, F3 and Eklund (I hate Eklund the least). Someone in the Wam noticed I didn't have a Wam donation badge. Stalin grandfathered me in because of my early donations. Going back to me liking this place so much, I said fuck it and made a Wam level donation this week and will do so moving forward (mostly out of love for our Noble Red Savage).
While I like the Wild West aspect of this place, I also realize that people associate us with UW football and that parents of recruits really do read the message boreds. Because of that, we can't have dumb motherfuckers making racist remarks and dogging on players to the point that kids or their parents don't want them going to UW. When Smalls gave the interview to the recruiting guy saying he dropped UW, I was like whatever dude but damn, some mother fuckers out there lost their shit over a 17-year old and acted like a bunch of bitches calling him names or hoping that he sucks wherever he goes and that kinda shit is over the line to me.
Anyway, this might be my longest poast (hardy har har) ever but before I go. This gif sums up my feelings about the Tug. By the way, I stopped at the real Tug in June when I was in Seattle, it's slightly better than our? Tug.
AGREE with all of this but most of the racial stuff on this bored has it's genesis with the TSIO's obsession with race.
I don't think the racial stuff drove most of them away, though it probably did with AIRWOLF.
What about simply needing to register to view the recruiting boareds? I realize that's a low bar but I think we underestimate the number of pure lurkers.
Now that's the kind of compromise I would expect from a smart motherfucker like @UW_Doog_Bot.
At the very least it would give mods a better idea of who's viewing the board and track the impact of some of our dipshittery, especially as it relates to families of recruits. Not that we would then police the boards more in response, but getting a better idea of the reach of HH could never be a bad thing.
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I was always a PosiChest but his exit left a lot to be desired.
One of the main things that stands out about HH for me is how it destroys the doogman and realdoog notion that real info and analysis has to rely on "insider access" and "expertise" that costs money to generate and share. The amount of information flowing through this place thanks to a handful of ambitious folks stalking social media, creeping around at practices etc and pasting excerpts from articles proves what a scam those other sites are running. I'd hate to see that aspect, which to me is part of the foundation of hardcore husky, fade into generic paysite oblivion
Others have pointed out some of the common consequences of a site with mixed pay and free boards. One example is how information spills from the pay boards inappropriately generating aids threads on the free boards and upping the need for moderation. I'm not subscriber to slippery slope paranoia as a rule, but I would caution people about what sort of model you want to follow here. That model, with pay boards containing all the good info while the freebies turn to aids because little quality info is allowed to be shared there, seems too similar to those other sites to me.
That being said, Antifa is objectively good. You fucks baited me into that one. Not reading the replies. I hope you all get hookworms.
We discuss this in detail in the Wam.
From interacting on Twitter with quite a few of the folks who've left: Coker, Airwolf, Chest, I get the impression that some of the borderline or even overt racist remarks drove them away. Quite a few of them lean to the left and we all know Stalin is a right-wing dictator so there might be some of that.
Regarding HH overall, I like it being the Wild West. When Stalin started this place, I apparently was one of the first people he talked to about it (I'm kind of a big deal I guess) and I remember him saying something along the lines of no censorship and he's kept pretty true to that. I liked the idea so much that I helped fund it to get it started and also because I have an intense hatred of Kim, F3 and Eklund (I hate Eklund the least). Someone in the Wam noticed I didn't have a Wam donation badge. Stalin grandfathered me in because of my early donations. Going back to me liking this place so much, I said fuck it and made a Wam level donation this week and will do so moving forward (mostly out of love for our Noble Red Savage).
While I like the Wild West aspect of this place, I also realize that people associate us with UW football and that parents of recruits really do read the message boreds. Because of that, we can't have dumb motherfuckers making racist remarks and dogging on players to the point that kids or their parents don't want them going to UW. When Smalls gave the interview to the recruiting guy saying he dropped UW, I was like whatever dude but damn, some mother fuckers out there lost their shit over a 17-year old and acted like a bunch of bitches calling him names or hoping that he sucks wherever he goes and that kinda shit is over the line to me.
Anyway, this might be my longest poast (hardy har har) ever but before I go. This gif sums up my feelings about the Tug. By the way, I stopped at the real Tug in June when I was in Seattle, it's slightly better than our? Tug.
I don't think the racial stuff drove most of them away, though it probably did with AIRWOLF.
At the very least it would give mods a better idea of who's viewing the board and track the impact of some of our dipshittery, especially as it relates to families of recruits. Not that we would then police the boards more in response, but getting a better idea of the reach of HH could never be a bad thing.