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How is Trump going to handle the immigration issue come election time?

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,996 Founders Club

    Its almost like the Democrats strategy is to obstruct Trump on the border to try to win the election

    At a high human price to the props they invited to the concentration camps

    Damn right. House Dems have refused funding for border services that would solve the humanitarian crisis yesterday. That's because voters don't actually pays attention to congressional dealings, they're all focused on Trump's treatment of children. He was a fucking idiot for falling into that trap in the first place and his name is branded all over the mess. If he loses 2020 he can thank his initial border blunders and mismanagement as the chief reason.
    He's not going to lose

    He's the one guy trying to fix it

    Maybe, maybe not. LIPO obviously. But he's losing the optics game right now.
    Disagree again

    People aren't as stupid as the left thinks or hopes

    Facts trump emotional appeals that are fake

    It wasn't a crisis when all these folks were coming to the border

    Now it is


    Trump just changed the asylum system back. They have to apply in Mexico

    The Democrats front runner built the concentration camps

    Good luck
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,379

    Its almost like the Democrats strategy is to obstruct Trump on the border to try to win the election

    At a high human price to the props they invited to the concentration camps

    Damn right. House Dems have refused funding for border services that would solve the humanitarian crisis yesterday. That's because voters don't actually pays attention to congressional dealings, they're all focused on Trump's treatment of children. He was a fucking idiot for falling into that trap in the first place and his name is branded all over the mess. If he loses 2020 he can thank his initial border blunders and mismanagement as the chief reason.
    He's not going to lose

    He's the one guy trying to fix it

    Maybe, maybe not. LIPO obviously. But he's losing the optics game right now.
    Disagree again

    People aren't as stupid as the left thinks or hopes

    Facts trump emotional appeals that are fake

    It wasn't a crisis when all these folks were coming to the border

    Now it is


    Trump just changed the asylum system back. They have to apply in Mexico

    The Democrats front runner built the concentration camps

    Good luck
    Mostly they are. Plato was right.

    And those people generally start with the conclusion they wanted in the first place and work their way back from there.

    Don't shoot the messenger. It is what it is.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204
    The people aren't as dumb as you think they are and you're not a smart as you think you are Coug. It all balances out.
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    Gonna have to agree with Creep on this one. There are some truly stupid people who vote (on both sides).
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    Its almost like the Democrats strategy is to obstruct Trump on the border to try to win the election

    At a high human price to the props they invited to the concentration camps

    Damn right. House Dems have refused funding for border services that would solve the humanitarian crisis yesterday. That's because voters don't actually pays attention to congressional dealings, they're all focused on Trump's treatment of children. He was a fucking idiot for falling into that trap in the first place and his name is branded all over the mess. If he loses 2020 he can thank his initial border blunders and mismanagement as the chief reason.
    He's not going to lose

    He's the one guy trying to fix it

    Maybe, maybe not. LIPO obviously. But he's losing the optics game right now.
    Disagree again

    People aren't as stupid as the left thinks or hopes

    Facts trump emotional appeals that are fake

    It wasn't a crisis when all these folks were coming to the border

    Now it is


    Trump just changed the asylum system back. They have to apply in Mexico

    The Democrats front runner built the concentration camps

    Good luck
    People really are that stupid. Most of the country isn't listening to you or Ben Shapiro. The media is singularly obsessed with the mistreatment of children, while the inaction from democrats is back page news. Trump made it a point to ruthlessly attack the media ever since he was a candidate and now it's biting him in the ass. He's misplayed this from the beginning.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited July 2019

    SFGbob said:

    Doubt it...you have the other side wanting to decriminalizing all illegal immigration and offering to give all illegal immigrants free health care. Hell, you had a chunk of them cross the boarder and campaign with the illegals.

    Trump will win that argument easy...

    Yep. The DNC has shown themselves once again to not be very skilled at the winning an election part. For the moderator to tee' up the "raise your hand" question on immigration and health care was campaign suicide.
    CNN has now obliged, there will be no more questions like that asked during the debate. The MSM is now going to help the Rats hide their positions on issues.

    Btw, why do you blame the moderator? Shouldn't the candidates be blamed for how they answered?
    Yes. They're all to blame.

    The moderator who asked those questions - the guy who asked a few questions in Spanish - I assume was hand picked as part of some hackneyed attempt at appearing ethnic and inclusive. Ok, fair enough. At least there's some strategy. But then he asks a question that is going to alienate the political center. Stupid.

    They don't need to ask that question. What are the people sympathetic to that view going to do? Vote for Trump?

    If the guy was actually representative of the Cuban community and it was in fact an attempt to cull the dummies and ID who will support paying for such a program, then I applaud them for at least being honest and transparent in running the debate. In that case, the DNC should have sent these idiots a memo about what happens when D candidates align themselves with fringe social issues and forget their historic working class base.

    I said this in another post: it's too back Hickenlooper is such a shadow and unknown. He has a solid background as a governor, and he seems to be a political moderate and maybe even lean a little to the right of center on the economy, more than once make his position on socialism known. But he probably doesn't stand a chance.


    Creep.... It's not 1992 anymore. The non union working man hasn't voted Democrat since then. The Democrats found something that worked in 2008. ID politics. But even then it was tempered a little bit. Now.... It's a race to the extreme left, blaming the old white rich man all the way there.

    It's not gonna work. But they've backed themselves into a corner with their base they and have no other choice.

    And they will be shown on camera crying in disbelief, again on that cold November night in 2020.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204
    USMChawk said:

    Gonna have to agree with Creep on this one. There are some truly stupid people who vote (on both sides).

    I'm not arguing that there are no stupid voters. We have Hondo here to disabuse anyone of that notion. I just don't believe that the dumbass voter is the majority of all voters.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Its almost like the Democrats strategy is to obstruct Trump on the border to try to win the election

    At a high human price to the props they invited to the concentration camps

    Damn right. House Dems have refused funding for border services that would solve the humanitarian crisis yesterday. That's because voters don't actually pays attention to congressional dealings, they're all focused on Trump's treatment of children. He was a fucking idiot for falling into that trap in the first place and his name is branded all over the mess. If he loses 2020 he can thank his initial border blunders and mismanagement as the chief reason.
    He's not going to lose

    He's the one guy trying to fix it

    Maybe, maybe not. LIPO obviously. But he's losing the optics game right now.
    Not to those with a head on their shoulders.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,996 Founders Club

    Its almost like the Democrats strategy is to obstruct Trump on the border to try to win the election

    At a high human price to the props they invited to the concentration camps

    Damn right. House Dems have refused funding for border services that would solve the humanitarian crisis yesterday. That's because voters don't actually pays attention to congressional dealings, they're all focused on Trump's treatment of children. He was a fucking idiot for falling into that trap in the first place and his name is branded all over the mess. If he loses 2020 he can thank his initial border blunders and mismanagement as the chief reason.
    He's not going to lose

    He's the one guy trying to fix it

    Maybe, maybe not. LIPO obviously. But he's losing the optics game right now.
    Disagree again

    People aren't as stupid as the left thinks or hopes

    Facts trump emotional appeals that are fake

    It wasn't a crisis when all these folks were coming to the border

    Now it is


    Trump just changed the asylum system back. They have to apply in Mexico

    The Democrats front runner built the concentration camps

    Good luck
    People really are that stupid. Most of the country isn't listening to you or Ben Shapiro. The media is singularly obsessed with the mistreatment of children, while the inaction from democrats is back page news. Trump made it a point to ruthlessly attack the media ever since he was a candidate and now it's biting him in the ass. He's misplayed this from the beginning.
    I may have more readers than CNN has viewers these days
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,996 Founders Club
    And attacking the media got him elected and will get him re elected

    He's never taken the advice you want to give him to lay back and take it

    Smart