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Open borders
Healthcare for illegals
Reparations
Return to force busing.
The American flag is a racist symbol of hate
Pro-Abortion right up until and even after the moment of birth.
Raising taxes
Race based mortgages
the elimination of the private health insurance industry.
Did I miss anything? But remember now, according to O'Keefed, it's the GOP that's moved to the fringes
Healthcare for illegals
Reparations
Return to force busing.
The American flag is a racist symbol of hate
Pro-Abortion right up until and even after the moment of birth.
Raising taxes
Race based mortgages
the elimination of the private health insurance industry.
Did I miss anything? But remember now, according to O'Keefed, it's the GOP that's moved to the fringes
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That time of the month?
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And El Monte actually tongued your ass for that pathetic clown nosed response. Spread them wide O'Keefed, El Monte is just getting started.HHusky said:That time of the month?
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I always laugh when you call someone a liar. This time I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Which mainstream candidate has those positions posted on their website?SFGbob said:Open borders
Healthcare for illegals
Reparations
Return to force busing.
The American flag is a racist symbol of hate
Pro-Abortion right up until and even after the moment of birth.
Raising taxes
Race based mortgages
the elimination of the private health insurance industry.
Did I miss anything? But remember now, according to O'Keefed, it's the GOP that's moved to the fringes -
GayBob is really frustrated and angry right now.
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Oh man you missed a whole bunch:SFGbob said:Open borders
Healthcare for illegals
Reparations
Return to force busing.
The American flag is a racist symbol of hate
Pro-Abortion right up until and even after the moment of birth.
Raising taxes
Race based mortgages
the elimination of the private health insurance industry.
Did I miss anything? But remember now, according to O'Keefed, it's the GOP that's moved to the fringes
Free college education
Complete relief of all existing college loan debt
Free healthcare for illegals
Preferential lending only to minorities
Breaking up big tech firms
New regulations on lending institutions
Enlarging the Supreme Court
Universal Child Care
Guaranteed Income
Affordable Housing
Trillions on global warming
I am sure I missed more than 7 more trillion in promised give aways but the 10 trillion I listed is a pretty impressive list huh? -
Save for a small handful, everyone on stage raised their hand at the second dem debate when asked if they supported providing healthcare for illegal immigrants. Multiple high profile candidates have expressed support for reparations despite this previously being a total non-issue outside of the fringe left. Raising taxes on the wealthy is an almost consensus democratic position. The candidates who support Medicare for all, namely Sanders and Warren, have stated that they will eliminate the private healthcare industry.2001400ex said:
I always laugh when you call someone a liar. This time I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Which mainstream candidate has those positions posted on their website?SFGbob said:Open borders
Healthcare for illegals
Reparations
Return to force busing.
The American flag is a racist symbol of hate
Pro-Abortion right up until and even after the moment of birth.
Raising taxes
Race based mortgages
the elimination of the private health insurance industry.
Did I miss anything? But remember now, according to O'Keefed, it's the GOP that's moved to the fringes
Obviously Bob threw in a few of his trademarked kooky conservative shit bombs, but he's not wrong that the democratic field has moved sharply left. And it's increasingly starting to look like a losing strategy. -
Every single one of those positions have been advocated but at least one, and in many cases the majority of all the Rats currently running for President.
The only liar here as always Hondo is you. -
No one is coming fer yer gunz trumptard.
Name one lawmaker who has introduced legislation or has on their website they want to take yer gunz.
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When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
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I'm hearing only a fringe of conservative nuts like those on HH know who AOC even is.
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Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you -
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I'm hearing only a fringe of conservative nuts like those on HH know who AOC even is.
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If I'm calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings while also advocating that no one who is in this country illegally should be deported simply for not having papers what the fuck do you call it? The only "lie" is denying that position is nothing more than a call for open borders.GDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
If I'm not going arrest anyone for entering the country illegally and I'm not going to deport anyone here illegally unless they commit some other criminal offense what do you call it asswhole? -
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders? -
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.
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So what's the "protection" of the border if everyone who crosses is allowed to stay until they receive a civil hearing that most will not turn up for? And as nearly every Rat on stage said someone here illegally who has committed no other offense than being in this country without papers shouldn't be subject to deportation?dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.
There is no protection and there are a number of Rats calling for just that. -
SFGbob ate aids out of a hookers ass and is feeling ALIVE RIGHT NOW.
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Who will protect the border? Who will deport when ICE is abolished? We have large stretches where no one is protecting the border nowdhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.
The deal on the table is to close the holes and deal with who is already here.
Why are democrats so opposed to that? -
Yeah, that's probably the response I'd give if I couldn't refute a fucking word the other person said.Gwad said:SFGbob ate aids out of a hookers ass and is feeling ALIVE RIGHT NOW.
Go ahead Kunt, tell us how what Julian Castro is advocating isn't Open Borders. Cue the Kunt act. -
It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations. -
What do you want to bet that there isn't even a fucking liberal here who knows what Castro has called for nor do they know that nearly every Rat candidate running for President said that they would not deport someone in this country simply for not having their papers.
They all run their fucking mouths when not a one of them even knows what the fuck they are talking about. The Hondoization of the board leftists in complete. -
If all the Border Patrol is going to do is issue a citation to everyone they catch crossing the border with a promise that they'll then show up for a civil hearing, they don't even need to get past the BP in order to get into the country. That's what Castro is calling for.GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations. -
Maybe Castro's calling for that (he's also a fringe candidate with no chance), but that's definitely not my understanding of the position of the other democrats. Most of them want to make illegal entry a misdemeanor as opposed to a felony, but I don't see anything to suggest that that also means stripping CBP of their deportation power at the border.SFGbob said:
If all the Border Patrol is going to do is issue a citation to everyone they catch crossing the border with a promise that they'll then show up for a civil hearing, they don't even need to get past the BP in order to get into the country. That's what Castro is calling for.GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations. -
Is Castro a Rat? Is he running for President? Beto O'Rourke and T-bone's main man have both called for essentially the same thing. Removing the criminal penalty from crossing border opens up the flood gates and encourages even more illegal crossing and if you remove that penalty while promising not to deport anyone simply for not having papers you've just open the borders.
I never said every single Rats is in support of every single position I listed, in fact I clearly stated the opposite. -
You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations. -
So they’re here illegally. Got it.2001400ex said:
You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations. -
And what's your point? Are you saying you agree with the candidates that they should only be guilty of committing a misdemeanor?2001400ex said:
You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations. -
So fucking what? That makes them easier to track. The ones who didn't do that are all evwn worse, or they would have gotten a visa and overstayed.2001400ex said:
You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations. -
Somebody should enforce the law then.MikeDamone said:
So they’re here illegally. Got it.2001400ex said:
You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.dhdawg said:
because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.SFGbob said:
Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.RaceBannon said:
Open borders isn't a lie its a goalGDS said:When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...
Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in
The liars, in other words, are folks like you
Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.
LOL.
