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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,583 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2019
    Evetone of them for gun control. Boottyeggegg will nuke you if you don't hand them over.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Gaybob sure is lathered up again.

    So mad.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...

    Open borders isn't a lie its a goal

    Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in

    The liars, in other words, are folks like you
    Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.

    Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
    because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.

    In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.

    It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.
    You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?
    And what's your point? Are you saying you agree with the candidates that they should only be guilty of committing a misdemeanor?
    My point is you went on a rant about the point of entry and border laws. When that's not even the real issue. Before you can fix the problem, you have to know what the actual issues are.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,176 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2019
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...

    Open borders isn't a lie its a goal

    Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in

    The liars, in other words, are folks like you
    Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.

    Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
    because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.

    In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.

    It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.
    You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?
    What a fucking idiot. You rival Owl on the old Educk site. The overwhelming majority are here illegally you flipping ignoramus. They didn't enter the country "legally" . The reason you idiots don't want to count illegals in the census is because there are a majority of illegal immigrants and it would illuminate how many illegals are voting in your states and limit your representation.

    This idiot hondo is tiring. I find it hard to believe there are fellow Americans that are this stupid.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...

    Open borders isn't a lie its a goal

    Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in

    The liars, in other words, are folks like you
    Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.

    Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
    because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.

    In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.

    It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.
    You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?
    And what's your point? Are you saying you agree with the candidates that they should only be guilty of committing a misdemeanor?
    My point is you went on a rant about the point of entry and border laws. When that's not even the real issue. Before you can fix the problem, you have to know what the actual issues are.
    So you're for strict enforcement of visa laws. Deport them when they overstay. You could've just led in with that.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,583 Standard Supporter

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...

    Open borders isn't a lie its a goal

    Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in

    The liars, in other words, are folks like you
    Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.

    Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
    because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.

    In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.

    It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.
    You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?
    What a fucking idiot. You rival Owl on the old Educk site. The overwhelming majority are here illegally you flipping ignoramus. They didn't enter the country "legally" . The reason you idiots don't want to count illegals in the census is because there are a majority of illegal immigrants and it would illuminate how many illegals are voting in your states and limit your representation.

    This idiot hondo is tiring. I find it hard to believe there are fellow Americans that are this stupid.
    Stupid yes. Evil? Fuck yes the left is evil.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    To be fair, Trump is also open borders. The immigration invasion is happening under his watch, and still no wall. He's either in on the racket, or is incompetent in regard to the powers he can exercise as president. He will have nothing to say about immigration. ZERO.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...

    Open borders isn't a lie its a goal

    Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in

    The liars, in other words, are folks like you
    Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.

    Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
    because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.

    In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.

    It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.
    You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?
    What a fucking idiot. You rival Owl on the old Educk site. The overwhelming majority are here illegally you flipping ignoramus. They didn't enter the country "legally" . The reason you idiots don't want to count illegals in the census is because there are a majority of illegal immigrants and it would illuminate how many illegals are voting in your states and limit your representation.

    This idiot hondo is tiring. I find it hard to believe there are fellow Americans that are this stupid.
    New site but same ole liar. The majority of recent undocumented immigrants come from visa overstays not people illegal crossing the border.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    When the first line of a poast like Blob's is a lie it kinda kills any point you were trying to make...

    Open borders isn't a lie its a goal

    Of course most of them are too gutless to say it so they just call to dismantle enforcement and any stopping of illegals coming in

    The liars, in other words, are folks like you
    Some of them are calling for the the complete decriminalization of illegal border crossings. They are proposing that we make it strictly a civil offense and allow anyone who is apprehended to stay here until they receive a civil hearing. At the last debate all but Joe Biden said that no one should be deported from this country unless they've committed a serious offense and simply not having papers wasn't justification enough for deportation.

    Now you tell me how that's any different from open borders?
    because in the case of open borders there isn't anyone actually protecting the border.

    In this case there would still be border protection. And there would still be deportations.

    It's a fair distinction, but it's still a policy of "if you can get past us you're free to do what you please". That's not very different from open borders and only incentivizes further immigration. I'd be a lot more supportive of this "decriminalization" if Dems would couple it with a commitment to more stringently enforce border laws and stop illegal immigration at the point of entry. And yes that would probably include a wall.
    You do realize a large portion of immigrants who live here illegally, actually entered the country legally and over stay their Visa, right?
    What a fucking idiot. You rival Owl on the old Educk site. The overwhelming majority are here illegally you flipping ignoramus. They didn't enter the country "legally" . The reason you idiots don't want to count illegals in the census is because there are a majority of illegal immigrants and it would illuminate how many illegals are voting in your states and limit your representation.

    This idiot hondo is tiring. I find it hard to believe there are fellow Americans that are this stupid.
    New site but same ole liar. The majority of recent undocumented immigrants come from visa overstays not people illegal crossing the border.
    Great point but it does nothing to refute a fucking word I said nor does it support your fucking bullshit that I lied.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,583 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2019
    More than 144,000 overstays last month?