Those needles littering the streets? Yeah, the city handed them out - religious left strikes again

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.

It's not a disease on all accounts. It's a narrow minded cop out. Different substances effect different people different ways. To consider that and then believe that ALL who have become addicted to a substance, behaviour or what have you, is lazy, dense and disingenuous.

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.

So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.

Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.

So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.

Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.

Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.

TurdBomber said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.

So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.

Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.

Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.

The opiate addict is identifiable to doctors who treat addiction. While most of us have either no particular reaction to opiates or are even sickened by them, the addict remembers his first, intensely pleasurable use and chases that high. The fact they are energized by opiates already makes them unusual. I really don’t care if it’s genetic or not, although the evidence points to that.

HHusky said:

TurdBomber said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.

So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.

Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.

Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.

The opiate addict is identifiable to doctors who treat addiction. While most of us have either no particular reaction to opiates or are even sickened by them, the addict remembers his first, intensely pleasurable use and chases that high. The fact they are energized by opiates already makes them unusual. I really don’t care if it’s genetic or not, although the evidence points to that.

Do you recognize the circularity of your argument where the exception becomes the rule? Some evidence points to that for some people. Your proverbial “one-hit, that’s it” physically addicted addict is extremely rare.

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.

HIV is pretty expensive to treat. There are studies on this, you know, for those of us who like to argue from evidence.

HHusky said:

TurdBomber said:

HHusky said:

TurdBomber said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.

So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.

Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.

Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.

The opiate addict is identifiable to doctors who treat addiction. While most of us have either no particular reaction to opiates or are even sickened by them, the addict remembers his first, intensely pleasurable use and chases that high. The fact they are energized by opiates already makes them unusual. I really don’t care if it’s genetic or not, although the evidence points to that.

Do you recognize the circularity of your argument where the exception becomes the rule? Some evidence points to that for some people. Your proverbial “one-hit, that’s it” physically addicted addict is extremely rare.

Not what I said, of course. The first hit does usually identify the person with the predisposition though. I've got an addiction medicine specialist in the family.

You'll have to ask Rush how he became a junkie. He's been pretty quiet about it.

Classic. Presume I'm Right-Wing because I disagree with you. Sad little lefty.

I'll bet that "addiction specialist" in your family is a real sharp-shooter, too.

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.

HIV is pretty expensive to treat. There are studies on this, you know, for those of us who like to argue from evidence.

Another problem created by the religious left. If you've contracted AIDs on account of the fact that you're a fucking junkie you're on your own. But thanks to the religious left, we now all get the joy of paying for this deadbeat's health care.


We used to have a belief about the deserving and undeserving poor back before the existence of the Welfare state.

blob’s quality of life isn’t affected by stepping over corpses. Retirement in India?

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Clearly we need to bring back smoking in public places

Its a disease to be addicted to tobacco. Why are we discriminating against smokers?

If you lit up a cigarette in a public bar or restaurant here in SF you'd have a number of people in that bar or restaurant yelling at you to put it out and if you insisted on smoking you'd be cited for your behavior. Go out onto the sidewalk drop your pants and take a shit or shoot up and no one will say anything in fact that city will provide you with the needle.

There are public safe spaces for smokers too. No one is proposing that junkies inject in your favorite restaurant.

Just outside the front door. And you better let them use the rest room too

The "safe space" for people to shit and shoot up here in SF appears to be most any public sidewalk.

You see them out there when you’re having a smoke?