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The Military Situation In The Ukraine

pawz
pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,417 Founders Club
edited April 2022 in Tug Tavern
https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




A sober view.

FYFMFE


tldr






@HoustonHusky @LoneStarDawg @UW_Doog_Bot @RatherBeBrewing @GrundleStiltzkin @RoadTrip
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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    That was a very revealing read. I'm a bit confused about a couple of things. 1. The Ukrainians have been shelling the southeastern region for almost 8 years which is a violation of the Minsk agreements and there has been zero reporting from the west on this? The militias engaged in this "genocide" are considered to be Nazis and yet there has been no condemnation or reporting? 2. The term Nazi is being used primarily because there is a decades old score to settle which goes back to WW2? Apparently Russian troops were led by Jewish officers and there are still regional scores to be settled against Russian Jews? Can someone provide some context for me here?

    Also, the very end of the article opened my eyes to a conflict which has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands, leaving millions of innocents to suffer in the (mostly unreported) greatest humanitarin crisis of our times in Yemen. Can someone provide a brief explanation of the war between Saudi Arabia and Yeman? The author in this article concludes by pointing out we? In the west are not being sanctioned (as are the Russian population for Putin's actions against Ukraine) for our leaders responsibility for the attrocities happening in Yeman or for that matter in any number of conflicts we've been engaged in for years in the middle east.

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028
    RoadTrip said:

    That was a very revealing read. I'm a bit confused about a couple of things. 1. The Ukrainians have been shelling the southeastern region for almost 8 years which is a violation of the Minsk agreements and there has been zero reporting from the west on this? The militias engaged in this "genocide" are considered to be Nazis and yet there has been no condemnation or reporting? 2. The term Nazi is being used primarily because there is a decades old score to settle which goes back to WW2? Apparently Russian troops were led by Jewish officers and there are still regional scores to be settled against Russian Jews? Can someone provide some context for me here?

    Also, the very end of the article opened my eyes to a conflict which has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands, leaving millions of innocents to suffer in the (mostly unreported) greatest humanitarin crisis of our times in Yemen. Can someone provide a brief explanation of the war between Saudi Arabia and Yeman? The author in this article concludes by pointing out we? In the west are not being sanctioned (as are the Russian population for Putin's actions against Ukraine) for our leaders responsibility for the attrocities happening in Yeman or for that matter in any number of conflicts we've been engaged in for years in the middle east.

    Tldr the Saudis and nominally the US back the "government" against the Houtis who have the proxy backing of Iran bc it's essentially all a proxy war between tribes that hate one another.

    And both sides have committed lots of atrocities most likely.


  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,198 Founders Club
    If you listen to Adam Curry, he makes a somewhat rational argument how Putin could be in on this with the Biden admin, in all the lies and how this thing is being protracted.

    I'm not saying I believe that. I'm saying that I largely don't know what to believe.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028
    pawz said:

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


    Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

    This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




    A sober view.

    FYFMFE


    tldr






    @HoustonHusky @LoneStarDawg @UW_Doog_Bot @RatherBeBrewing @GrundleStiltzkin @RoadTrip

    Sorry not sorry reads like Kremlin primer.

    Glosses over essentially that little "invasion" of Crimea.

    Glosses over the little green men in Donbas since 2014? Ish. "Only 50 foreign fighters" sure.gif

    Putin is demilitarizing the Ukraine! Ok, so your invading a sovereign country to defeat its military. Pretty classic communist rebranding there.

    Maybe I didn't get to the good part but he took a long time getting there and at some point I've had my fill of rehashed Kremlin talking points.

    @RatherBeBrewing will probably be more willing and motivated to post a tequila style takedown.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965
    edited April 2022

    If you listen to Adam Curry, he makes a somewhat rational argument how Putin could be in on this with the Biden admin, in all the lies and how this thing is being protracted.

    I'm not saying I believe that. I'm saying that I largely don't know what to believe.

    Would not shock me, after all, he will have more flexibility after the election... and he did get 3 million from the mayor of moscow
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    pawz said:

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


    Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

    This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




    A sober view.

    FYFMFE


    tldr






    @HoustonHusky @LoneStarDawg @UW_Doog_Bot @RatherBeBrewing @GrundleStiltzkin @RoadTrip

    Sorry not sorry reads like Kremlin primer.

    Glosses over essentially that little "invasion" of Crimea.

    Glosses over the little green men in Donbas since 2014? Ish. "Only 50 foreign fighters" sure.gif

    Putin is demilitarizing the Ukraine! Ok, so your invading a sovereign country to defeat its military. Pretty classic communist rebranding there.

    Maybe I didn't get to the good part but he took a long time getting there and at some point I've had my fill of rehashed Kremlin talking points.

    @RatherBeBrewing will probably be more willing and motivated to post a tequila style takedown.
    I don't think the point of the article is to support Putin or Russia in any way. However, to deny there are financial and corrupt motivations within factions of the United States (significant ones within in our own government) and those within Europe (NATO) is to be naive.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,661
    The only reason Ukraine is a thing is as a deflection from Bidens shit
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter
    Out of the billion plus being sent to the Ukraine how much gets kicked back to SloJoe and the Dim cronies? Hunter would know.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965

    The only reason Ukraine is a thing is as a deflection from Bidens shit

    No the only reason Ukraine is a thing is Biden is weak AF... and Putin took advantage.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    An Indian take on the current situation…interesting (and depressing) read. We are not being led by our best and brightest.

    https://www.indianpunchline.com/us-narrative-wont-survive-defeat-in-donbass/
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    An Indian take on the current situation…interesting (and depressing) read. We are not being led by our best and brightest.

    https://www.indianpunchline.com/us-narrative-wont-survive-defeat-in-donbass/

    That was a good quick read and probably deserves its own thread. This war is most certainly being primarily pushed and supported by the United States. The industrial war complex is part of the swamp. 911 was used to rally angry Americans to support 2 decades of war and trillions of dollars into the cabal. Now Biden is forced to comply with Obama's demands to financially support his Zelensky puppet and this proxy war. Europe and Nato want nothing to do with this now because they are beholden to Russian and middle-east oil.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    An Indian take on the current situation…interesting (and depressing) read. We are not being led by our best and brightest.

    https://www.indianpunchline.com/us-narrative-wont-survive-defeat-in-donbass/

    That was a good quick read and probably deserves its own thread. This war is most certainly being primarily pushed and supported by the United States. The industrial war complex is part of the swamp. 911 was used to rally angry Americans to support 2 decades of war and trillions of dollars into the cabal. Now Biden is forced to comply with Obama's demands to financially support his Zelensky puppet and this proxy war. Europe and Nato want nothing to do with this now because they are beholden to Russian and middle-east oil.
    Protecting the deep states money laundering country where Hunter Bidens Rosemont Seneca owns and funds the biolabs is important to the "big guy" who gets 10% off the top and 50% of everything Hunter makes. Child trafficking for sniffers and more is popular as well.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005

    An Indian take on the current situation…interesting (and depressing) read. We are not being led by our best and brightest.

    https://www.indianpunchline.com/us-narrative-wont-survive-defeat-in-donbass/

    We're being fed the Cho Bai Den slog.

    His handlers don't want the cesspool of Ukrainian corruption to see the light of day in the US MSM. They like having dementia puppet boy in the White House.

    Mitt and John Kerry don't either.


  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028
    RoadTrip said:

    pawz said:

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


    Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

    This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




    A sober view.

    FYFMFE


    tldr






    @HoustonHusky @LoneStarDawg @UW_Doog_Bot @RatherBeBrewing @GrundleStiltzkin @RoadTrip

    Sorry not sorry reads like Kremlin primer.

    Glosses over essentially that little "invasion" of Crimea.

    Glosses over the little green men in Donbas since 2014? Ish. "Only 50 foreign fighters" sure.gif

    Putin is demilitarizing the Ukraine! Ok, so your invading a sovereign country to defeat its military. Pretty classic communist rebranding there.

    Maybe I didn't get to the good part but he took a long time getting there and at some point I've had my fill of rehashed Kremlin talking points.

    @RatherBeBrewing will probably be more willing and motivated to post a tequila style takedown.
    I don't think the point of the article is to support Putin or Russia in any way. However, to deny there are financial and corrupt motivations within factions of the United States (significant ones within in our own government) and those within Europe (NATO) is to be naive.
    It repeats a shit load of Kremlin propaganda so you'll forgive me for thinking so.

    Either way, it's not mutually exclusive that our leadership is corrupt and so is Russia's.

    They are more similar than dissimilar and neither is good.
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557

    pawz said:

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


    Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

    This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




    A sober view.

    FYFMFE


    tldr






    @HoustonHusky @LoneStarDawg @UW_Doog_Bot @RatherBeBrewing @GrundleStiltzkin @RoadTrip

    Sorry not sorry reads like Kremlin primer.

    Glosses over essentially that little "invasion" of Crimea.

    Glosses over the little green men in Donbas since 2014? Ish. "Only 50 foreign fighters" sure.gif

    Putin is demilitarizing the Ukraine! Ok, so your invading a sovereign country to defeat its military. Pretty classic communist rebranding there.

    Maybe I didn't get to the good part but he took a long time getting there and at some point I've had my fill of rehashed Kremlin talking points.

    @RatherBeBrewing will probably be more willing and motivated to post a tequila style takedown.
    Not even worth my usual explanation. Mssr Baud is just a simple expert for hire, and his client is Russia. In fact, any of you can hire him to lend his resume to whatever you would like him to justify or distort - it’s not very difficult to find how.

    There’s no nice way to say this, but if anyone believes this assclown they are either very dim or are just looking for a source that confirms what they want to believe. I’m dumb for having read it, and even dumber for bothering to write the shit below.

    Look at Baud’s articles and interviews. Special military operation this, special military operation that. That’s to avoid Russia’s new laws, where you can’t call their invasion a war. That should be a dead giveaway every time.

    Denazification, Russian speaker genocide, THE Ukraine, speaking about the tiny parcels of two oblasts as if they are legitimate republics. Trying to explain the ass kicking in Kyiv as the original plan, and all those dead Russian soldiers are by design to spare civilians, instead of air strikes like the Western strategy. Although Russia has used more cruise missiles in two months than the United States has used in TOTAL in all conflicts in the last 30 years, but few people will check. Jesus, the use of MLRS like the Smerch (successor to the still in heavy use Uragan and Grad) with cluster munitions by both Russia and Ukraine is worse than air strikes for civilians by far.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited April 2022

    pawz said:

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


    Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

    This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




    A sober view.

    FYFMFE


    tldr






    @HoustonHusky @LoneStarDawg @UW_Doog_Bot @RatherBeBrewing @GrundleStiltzkin @RoadTrip

    Sorry not sorry reads like Kremlin primer.

    Glosses over essentially that little "invasion" of Crimea.

    Glosses over the little green men in Donbas since 2014? Ish. "Only 50 foreign fighters" sure.gif

    Putin is demilitarizing the Ukraine! Ok, so your invading a sovereign country to defeat its military. Pretty classic communist rebranding there.

    Maybe I didn't get to the good part but he took a long time getting there and at some point I've had my fill of rehashed Kremlin talking points.

    @RatherBeBrewing will probably be more willing and motivated to post a tequila style takedown.
    Not even worth my usual explanation. Mssr Baud is just a simple expert for hire, and his client is Russia. In fact, any of you can hire him to lend his resume to whatever you would like him to justify or distort - it’s not very difficult to find how.

    There’s no nice way to say this, but if anyone believes this assclown they are either very dim or are just looking for a source that confirms what they want to believe. I’m dumb for having read it, and even dumber for bothering to write the shit below.

    Look at Baud’s articles and interviews. Special military operation this, special military operation that. That’s to avoid Russia’s new laws, where you can’t call their invasion a war. That should be a dead giveaway every time.

    Denazification, Russian speaker genocide, THE Ukraine, speaking about the tiny parcels of two oblasts as if they are legitimate republics. Trying to explain the ass kicking in Kyiv as the original plan, and all those dead Russian soldiers are by design to spare civilians, instead of air strikes like the Western strategy. Although Russia has used more cruise missiles in two months than the United States has used in TOTAL in all conflicts in the last 30 years, but few people will check. Jesus, the use of MLRS like the Smerch (successor to the still in heavy use Uragan and Grad) with cluster munitions by both Russia and Ukraine is worse than air strikes for civilians by far.
    I would argue anyone listening to an ex-wife describing her ex-husband right after a horribly nasty divorce is not getting the full picture...


  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Apparently that military aid we're sending is getting destroyed by Russian precision guided missiles as it's being staged. Shocking development!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005
    46XiJCAB said:

    Apparently that military aid we're sending is getting destroyed by Russian precision guided missiles as it's being staged. Shocking development!

    It's so much more polite when the military aid is simply left behind for the opponent to use for their own purposes.

    #afghanistan

    #fuckyoujoe
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    What's it called when your current SOD is a former Military Industrial Complex shill?
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    pawz said:

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


    Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

    This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




    A sober view.

    FYFMFE


    tldr






    @HoustonHusky @LoneStarDawg @UW_Doog_Bot @RatherBeBrewing @GrundleStiltzkin @RoadTrip

    Sorry not sorry reads like Kremlin primer.

    Glosses over essentially that little "invasion" of Crimea.

    Glosses over the little green men in Donbas since 2014? Ish. "Only 50 foreign fighters" sure.gif

    Putin is demilitarizing the Ukraine! Ok, so your invading a sovereign country to defeat its military. Pretty classic communist rebranding there.

    Maybe I didn't get to the good part but he took a long time getting there and at some point I've had my fill of rehashed Kremlin talking points.

    @RatherBeBrewing will probably be more willing and motivated to post a tequila style takedown.
    Not even worth my usual explanation. Mssr Baud is just a simple expert for hire, and his client is Russia. In fact, any of you can hire him to lend his resume to whatever you would like him to justify or distort - it’s not very difficult to find how.

    There’s no nice way to say this, but if anyone believes this assclown they are either very dim or are just looking for a source that confirms what they want to believe. I’m dumb for having read it, and even dumber for bothering to write the shit below.

    Look at Baud’s articles and interviews. Special military operation this, special military operation that. That’s to avoid Russia’s new laws, where you can’t call their invasion a war. That should be a dead giveaway every time.

    Denazification, Russian speaker genocide, THE Ukraine, speaking about the tiny parcels of two oblasts as if they are legitimate republics. Trying to explain the ass kicking in Kyiv as the original plan, and all those dead Russian soldiers are by design to spare civilians, instead of air strikes like the Western strategy. Although Russia has used more cruise missiles in two months than the United States has used in TOTAL in all conflicts in the last 30 years, but few people will check. Jesus, the use of MLRS like the Smerch (successor to the still in heavy use Uragan and Grad) with cluster munitions by both Russia and Ukraine is worse than air strikes for civilians by far.
    That seemed like your normal response. The points about the attacks on the cities other than the two in the most south-eastern region make a lot of sense. Are you familiar with this author Baud? I am not. You're dismissing his opinions as Putin mouth--piece works for hire. I'm not sure the sophomoric claim Russia began this invasion and war as a means to rid the Donbas region of Nazis was the premise of the article but it is a fair criticism I suppose. Who were these mercenaries for hire then who had been committing attrocities in that region for years? Where do you get the intel in regard to the quantities and types of munitions being used?
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557

    pawz said:

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


    Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

    This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




    A sober view.

    FYFMFE


    tldr






    @HoustonHusky @LoneStarDawg @UW_Doog_Bot @RatherBeBrewing @GrundleStiltzkin @RoadTrip

    Putin is demilitarizing the Ukraine! Ok, so your invading a sovereign country to defeat its military. Pretty classic communist rebranding there.
    I like that explanation of de-militarization, I’m going to liberate it from you.

    Burglary: De-cluttering Operation.
    Armed robbery: Technologically Assisted De-monetization.

    It’s a cliche, but Putin is really doing his best to provide us with an Orwellian world.

    Different book, but I just recently saw that the only foreword for a translation of Animal Farm that Orwell wrote was for one translated by a Ukrainian refugee in a German camp. Orwell requested no royalties so more refugees could read it. Of the 5,000 copies all but 1,500 were destroyed, mostly by American and British soldiers as the US didn’t want to offend the Soviet occupying force. It’s a shame, and once again shows the overestimation of the Red Army by the West; assuming they would be interested in a book, that they could read, and deduce that it was an allegory. General Eisenhower stopped repatriating Soviet refugees, much to Stalin’s anger, when he found out they were committing suicide to avoid it. The refugees, many of whom were originally taken to Germany as slave labor, were executed or sent to labor camps upon return - for treason.

    For an American movie-type ending: the refugee who translated the book eventually made it to the US, becoming a professor at Berkeley, Columbia, and the chair of Byzantine studies at Harvard.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjKajpMoUxM

    One, they don't write songs like this anymore. Two Putin is scared. He is locked down tighter than the dementia patient and his fake White House.


    pawz said:

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-an-update/


    Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

    This article appears through the gracious courtesy of Centre Français de Recherche sur le Renseignement, Paris. Translated from the French by N. Dass.




    A sober view.

    FYFMFE


    tldr






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    Putin is demilitarizing the Ukraine! Ok, so your invading a sovereign country to defeat its military. Pretty classic communist rebranding there.
    I like that explanation of de-militarization, I’m going to liberate it from you.

    Burglary: De-cluttering Operation.
    Armed robbery: Technologically Assisted De-monetization.

    It’s a cliche, but Putin is really doing his best to provide us with an Orwellian world.

    Different book, but I just recently saw that the only foreword for a translation of Animal Farm that Orwell wrote was for one translated by a Ukrainian refugee in a German camp. Orwell requested no royalties so more refugees could read it. Of the 5,000 copies all but 1,500 were destroyed, mostly by American and British soldiers as the US didn’t want to offend the Soviet occupying force. It’s a shame, and once again shows the overestimation of the Red Army by the West; assuming they would be interested in a book, that they could read, and deduce that it was an allegory. General Eisenhower stopped repatriating Soviet refugees, much to Stalin’s anger, when he found out they were committing suicide to avoid it. The refugees, many of whom were originally taken to Germany as slave labor, were executed or sent to labor camps upon return - for treason.

    For an American movie-type ending: the refugee who translated the book eventually made it to the US, becoming a professor at Berkeley, Columbia, and the chair of Byzantine studies at Harvard.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter
    So here is a headline from today's Oregonian. Shocking that after NATO countries are sending tens of billions of dollars of money and military supplies to the Ukraine, that the Russians turned off the oil and gas. What the hell is wrong with supposedly EU elites that they would describe this as "blackmail". Geezus. But it does show the uneven coverage from Western news sources.


  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    edited April 2022
    Fox News had some lady on this morning who just had a baby in the United States but she's from Ukraine and just moved back there if I got that part right. She was grateful for having the baby in rhe US because of the incredible health-care versus what people she knows received in Kiev and their babies were beorn prematurely and or didn't survive. Again, I think I got most of that right and Bill and Dana were just gushing over this lady and her requests for $40 billion dollars. Who is this woman demanding the United States give Ukraine $40 billion to defeat Russia? I just couldn't believe Bill and Dana just glossed over that demand.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter
    Trump always right.