Morris is hitting the portal so as of now we're going into spring ball with Sam and Stratton. We need to bring at least 1 portal QB anyways so why not bring a guy who is familiar with DeBoer's system? A lot of ppl here complained about Browning getting the job handed to him in 2015 but now we don't want Sam to have to compete? I want Haener back and I want Sam to beat him out straight up.
Yep.
I'm disappointed this is even a debate. Hmmm should we add a breakout star QB who plays in the literal exact offense we're installing hmmmm. Win the fucking games. Give Sam the opportunity to beat him out. Haener got a raw deal here too btw, I don't blame him for transferring. I still think that was a huge reason why Pete walked.
Can you explain to me who it was that forced Pete to play Eason and then quit?
It's not like we are contending next year, so why not start building with Sam? And worst case, what if Sam leaves?
Haener would have 1 year, he wouldn’t be coming over with 3 years of eligibility left. I doubt Huard leaves because of that and if he does well fuck him then.
Not contending? So we should just throw the season away and not try to get a better draft pick? I’m confused.
If Jake Haener can't win the Mountain West, how in the world do you expect him to win the Pac-12?
There is such a thing as a supporting cast in team sports...
It's not like we are contending next year, so why not start building with Sam? And worst case, what if Sam leaves?
Haener would have 1 year, he wouldn’t be coming over with 3 years of eligibility left. I doubt Huard leaves because of that and if he does well fuck him then.
Not contending? So we should just throw the season away and not try to get a better draft pick? I’m confused.
If Jake Haener can't win the Mountain West, how in the world do you expect him to win the Pac-12? The whole point of hiring him was that he can develop talent. Well then develop, Sam, that's why you were brought here.
Pac 12 was .500 vs Mountain West this year. 16-24 since 2016 and 13-12 against them in bowl games. Let’s not pretend like the Pac 12 is a juggernaut conference in comparison.
I'm not saying that at all, but I'm being realistic about where Washington stands in terms of talent. I don't think we are talented as we seem and that this needs to be torn down and rebuilt back up with a culture change which takes time.
Can do both at the same time … the beauty of the portal
Also the last 2 classes while below standards combined basically equate to one class in size … the COVID eligibility rules are going to make things interesting for the next few years
Most good transfer portal players go to the top programs. For every Bookie, Washington will get three Matins and Giles Jackson's.
Maybe but there are people that have transferred out like McKinney who sucked here but started most of the year for the likely conference champ and contributed. I thought he sucked too but Utah found a way to make him productive. We have been so shitty with our schemes and coaching and personnel decisions nobody knows what to expect next year.
And if a wr transfers out of the program right now you are a dumbass. Just wanted to add that.
It's not like we are contending next year, so why not start building with Sam? And worst case, what if Sam leaves?
Haener would have 1 year, he wouldn’t be coming over with 3 years of eligibility left. I doubt Huard leaves because of that and if he does well fuck him then.
Not contending? So we should just throw the season away and not try to get a better draft pick? I’m confused.
If Jake Haener can't win the Mountain West, how in the world do you expect him to win the Pac-12? The whole point of hiring him was that he can develop talent. Well then develop, Sam, that's why you were brought here.
Pac 12 was .500 vs Mountain West this year. 16-24 since 2016 and 13-12 against them in bowl games. Let’s not pretend like the Pac 12 is a juggernaut conference in comparison.
I'm not saying that at all, but I'm being realistic about where Washington stands in terms of talent. I don't think we are talented as we seem and that this needs to be torn down and rebuilt back up with a culture change which takes time.
Can do both at the same time … the beauty of the portal
Also the last 2 classes while below standards combined basically equate to one class in size … the COVID eligibility rules are going to make things interesting for the next few years
Most good transfer portal players go to the top programs. For every Bookie, Washington will get three Matins and Giles Jackson's.
It’s hard to fathom how you can talk such a big game about recruiting and the program needing to do what is necessary to win yet you care about Sam Huard and his feelings.
It's not like we are contending next year, so why not start building with Sam? And worst case, what if Sam leaves?
Haener would have 1 year, he wouldn’t be coming over with 3 years of eligibility left. I doubt Huard leaves because of that and if he does well fuck him then.
Not contending? So we should just throw the season away and not try to get a better draft pick? I’m confused.
If Jake Haener can't win the Mountain West, how in the world do you expect him to win the Pac-12? The whole point of hiring him was that he can develop talent. Well then develop, Sam, that's why you were brought here.
Pac 12 was .500 vs Mountain West this year. 16-24 since 2016 and 13-12 against them in bowl games. Let’s not pretend like the Pac 12 is a juggernaut conference in comparison.
I'm not saying that at all, but I'm being realistic about where Washington stands in terms of talent. I don't think we are talented as we seem and that this needs to be torn down and rebuilt back up with a culture change which takes time.
As far as a culture change goes I want players to think they have to come in and compete, not just given the red carpet treatment coming out of high school because of their recruiting ranking. It’s 2021 and I get that the QB position is different especially with the portal and if Sam had played this year and looked pretty good I could see your argument a bit better. But he wasn’t able to beat out Morris who likes to regularly throw into triple coverage and looked TERRIBLE in his first start. Yes the team gave up and played a part but he didn’t do anything well that game, at all. He shouldn’t automatically be handed the starting job if competition is brought in.
And again it’s one season IF it happens and if Huard isn’t willing to sit and learn for one more season behind a QB who has had success in this current offense then that says a lot about him and his mentality.
Jake Haener couldn't beat out Jake Browning and Jacob Eason.
I actually do think he’s a better college QB than Eason. Again, Huard threw 4 picks and couldn’t beat out Dylan fucking Morris.
It's not like we are contending next year, so why not start building with Sam? And worst case, what if Sam leaves?
Why not? The defense shouldn't be any worse than what we saw and the offense should take a huge step forward, especially with a competent QB. Give Sam a year to get actual coaching and be ready to kill it as a junior.
It's not like we are contending next year, so why not start building with Sam? And worst case, what if Sam leaves?
Why not? The defense shouldn't be any worse than what we saw and the offense should take a huge step forward, especially with a competent QB. Give Sam a year to get actual coaching and be ready to kill it as a junior.
I think you can accept two things at the same time. Huard has not shown to be good and he also can be good under the new coaches.
Haener was literally here throwing picks 3 years ago then he went to the staff that we have now and he got better. I hope Haener comes back too but to rule out Sam or, to a much lesser extent, Dylan would be ignoring the root cause of the overall poor QB play, Donovan.
Morris is hitting the portal so as of now we're going into spring ball with Sam and Stratton. We need to bring at least 1 portal QB anyways so why not bring a guy who is familiar with DeBoer's system? A lot of ppl here complained about Browning getting the job handed to him in 2015 but now we don't want Sam to have to compete? I want Haener back and I want Sam to beat him out straight up.
Yep.
I'm disappointed this is even a debate. Hmmm should we add a breakout star QB who plays in the literal exact offense we're installing hmmmm. Win the fucking games. Give Sam the opportunity to beat him out. Haener got a raw deal here too btw, I don't blame him for transferring. I still think that was a huge reason why Pete walked.
Can you explain to me who it was that forced Pete to play Eason and then quit?
I'm intrigued by Haener coming back since he's comfortable and proven in this system. Hell he was even in the Heisman conversation for a bit this season. I do think we need to hit the portal regardless to build up depth & in case Sam still isn't ready. But like Sonics mentioned, you better be fucking careful that you don't risk the future for a 1 year rebuilding year. If ceiling is 7-8 wins, I'd rather take lumps with Sam same way we did with Browning as a Freshmen.
It's not like we are contending next year, so why not start building with Sam? And worst case, what if Sam leaves?
Why not? The defense shouldn't be any worse than what we saw and the offense should take a huge step forward, especially with a competent QB. Give Sam a year to get actual coaching and be ready to kill it as a junior.
It's not like we are contending next year, so why not start building with Sam? And worst case, what if Sam leaves?
Why not? The defense shouldn't be any worse than what we saw and the offense should take a huge step forward, especially with a competent QB. Give Sam a year to get actual coaching and be ready to kill it as a junior.
I'm all for taking Haener.
I’m hearing another 10 win Season, rather easily.
Anything less than 8 is a failure.
10 is optimistic but a possibility.
Rinse.Lather.Repeat then.
I understand why expectations would make you uncomfortable.
Its going to be hilarious when Haener transfer to UW and sucks, Morris transfers to Fresno State and is incredible under Tedford, and Huard transfers to SDSU and sits for the rest of his career.
Its going to be hilarious when Haener transfer to UW and sucks, Morris transfers to Fresno State and is incredible under Tedford, and Huard transfers to SDSU and sits for the rest of his career.
i guess my eyes ARENT as good as everybody elses who watched Haener play under DeBoer against pac12 teams this season
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Pete ran the program. Probably still does
And if a wr transfers out of the program right now you are a dumbass. Just wanted to add that.
10 is optimistic but a possibility.
Haener was literally here throwing picks 3 years ago then he went to the staff that we have now and he got better. I hope Haener comes back too but to rule out Sam or, to a much lesser extent, Dylan would be ignoring the root cause of the overall poor QB play, Donovan.
Sonics also wasn’t a fan of DeBoner initially but has since come around. The same will happen with Haener and he’ll warm up to it.
If Sam portals because he had to sit out one year learning the system then good riddance
Pat pat.
Interesting
So enough of the hot Haener talk