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One of the many quaint beliefs the Left has about the US is that it's a relatively low-tax country

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  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    Have the progressives taxed the rich yet?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    hardhat said:

    Have the progressives taxed the rich yet?

    The progressives are intent on overplaying a weak hand.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,107
    edited November 2021
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.

    I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.

    Already spent. Ponzi scheme.

    blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.
    So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.
    No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.
    As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.
    How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?
    You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.
    Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget. I'd start with the multi-trillion dollar spending bills that your party, the people you voted for just passed. Then I'd go after the additional multi-trillion dollar spending bill the people you voted are trying to pass.

    But you're all about fiscal responsibility aren't you ya fucking fraud.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.

    I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.

    Already spent. Ponzi scheme.

    blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.
    So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.
    No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.
    As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.
    How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?
    You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.
    Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget.
    You don't have the votes, lady.

    That's always been the point.

    I'm living in reality and the possible.

    You're at Ayn Rand fantasy camp.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,107
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:



    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.

    I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.

    Already spent. Ponzi scheme.

    blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.
    So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.
    No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.
    As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.
    How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?
    You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.
    Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget.
    You don't have the votes, lady.

    That's always been the point.

    I'm living in reality and the possible.

    You're at Ayn Rand fantasy camp.
    Yes, we don't have the votes because of people like you. We've come full circle Dazzler, you and the people you vote for are the fucking problem.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:



    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.

    I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.

    Already spent. Ponzi scheme.

    blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.
    So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.
    No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.
    As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.
    How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?
    You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.
    Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget.
    You don't have the votes, lady.

    That's always been the point.

    I'm living in reality and the possible.

    You're at Ayn Rand fantasy camp.
    Yes, we don't have the votes because of people like you. We've come full circle Dazzler, you and the people you vote for are the fucking problem.
    The people I vote for have never taken raising more money off the table. The people you vote for have cut taxes and increased spending.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,107
    edited November 2021
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

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    HHusky said:



    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.

    I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.

    Already spent. Ponzi scheme.

    blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.
    So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.
    No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.
    As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.
    How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?
    You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.
    Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget.
    You don't have the votes, lady.

    That's always been the point.

    I'm living in reality and the possible.

    You're at Ayn Rand fantasy camp.
    Yes, we don't have the votes because of people like you. We've come full circle Dazzler, you and the people you vote for are the fucking problem.
    The people I vote for have never taken raising more money off the table. The people you vote for have cut taxes and increased spending.
    Have they proposed enough tax increases to cover their current spending, the spending they want to do and the deficit spending? Because if no, fuck off. Your claim of fiscal responsibility was a fucking fraud just like you are Dazzler.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    edited November 2021
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:



    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.

    I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.

    Already spent. Ponzi scheme.

    blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.
    So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.
    No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.
    As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.
    How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?
    You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.
    Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget.
    You don't have the votes, lady.

    That's always been the point.

    I'm living in reality and the possible.

    You're at Ayn Rand fantasy camp.
    Yes, we don't have the votes because of people like you. We've come full circle Dazzler, you and the people you vote for are the fucking problem.
    The people I vote for have never taken raising more money off the table. The people you vote for have cut taxes and increased spending.
    Have they proposed enough tax increases to cover their current spending, the spending they want to do and the deficit spending? Because if no, fuck off.
    Absolutely not. My people still want to put more stuff on the credit card and your people want to put everything on the credit card.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,731 Standard Supporter
    Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,107
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:



    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.

    I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.

    Already spent. Ponzi scheme.

    blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.
    So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.
    No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.
    As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.
    How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?
    You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.
    Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget.
    You don't have the votes, lady.

    That's always been the point.

    I'm living in reality and the possible.

    You're at Ayn Rand fantasy camp.
    Yes, we don't have the votes because of people like you. We've come full circle Dazzler, you and the people you vote for are the fucking problem.
    The people I vote for have never taken raising more money off the table. The people you vote for have cut taxes and increased spending.
    Have they proposed enough tax increases to cover their current spending, the spending they want to do and the deficit spending? Because if no, fuck off.
    Absolutely not. My people still want to put more stuff on the credit card and your people want to put everything on the credit card.
    Another lie. Make me king and you'd have a budget surplus. I'd cut spending and eliminate Federal departments and programs. My government wouldn't require anyone to pay more than 15% of the income in taxes.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,736 Founders Club
    What happened to austerity killed Greece?

    No one argues out of both sides of their mouth like a leftist

    But sure H wants spending cuts. Sure.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:



    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.

    I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.

    Already spent. Ponzi scheme.

    blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.
    So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.
    No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.
    As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.
    How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?
    You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.
    Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget.
    You don't have the votes, lady.

    That's always been the point.

    I'm living in reality and the possible.

    You're at Ayn Rand fantasy camp.
    Yes, we don't have the votes because of people like you. We've come full circle Dazzler, you and the people you vote for are the fucking problem.
    The people I vote for have never taken raising more money off the table. The people you vote for have cut taxes and increased spending.
    Have they proposed enough tax increases to cover their current spending, the spending they want to do and the deficit spending? Because if no, fuck off.
    Absolutely not. My people still want to put more stuff on the credit card and your people want to put everything on the credit card.
    Another lie. Make me king and you'd have a budget surplus. I'd cut spending and eliminate Federal departments and programs. My government wouldn't require anyone to pay more than 15% of the income in taxes.
    So we're really back to your fantasy island smaller government--something neither the people I vote for nor the people you vote for will EVER preside over. I'll live in reality, thanks.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628

    What happened to austerity killed Greece?

    No one argues out of both sides of their mouth like a leftist

    But sure H wants spending cuts. Sure.

    It's ridiculous to talk about spending cuts. The spending increases were baked in long ago.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628

    Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.

    Aren't you getting awfully old to fantasize about how much better we'd play with the fifth string quarterback?
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,731 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.

    Aren't you getting awfully old to fantasize about how much better we'd play with the fifth string quarterback?
    Have no idea what this means as I don't speak gibberish. Maybe it means that you don't support spending restraints and this somehow gives you the youthful moral high ground as only fiscally responsible democrats support massive spending increases because that's what the more fiscally responsible alternative candidates do. Just the pie in the sky additional revenue from more IRS agents is a fantasy. The spending is real, however.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,209 Swaye's Wigwam
    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,107

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628

    HHusky said:

    Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.

    Aren't you getting awfully old to fantasize about how much better we'd play with the fifth string quarterback?
    Have no idea what this means as I don't speak gibberish. Maybe it means that you don't support spending restraints and this somehow gives you the youthful moral high ground as only fiscally responsible democrats support massive spending increases because that's what the more fiscally responsible alternative candidates do. Just the pie in the sky additional revenue from more IRS agents is a fantasy. The spending is real, however.
    Oh please, Gasbag.

    You've fallen in and out of love with so many so-called "fiscal hawks" over the past 20 years it'd be embarrassing to someone without senile dementia.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.

    Aren't you getting awfully old to fantasize about how much better we'd play with the fifth string quarterback?
    Have no idea what this means as I don't speak gibberish. Maybe it means that you don't support spending restraints and this somehow gives you the youthful moral high ground as only fiscally responsible democrats support massive spending increases because that's what the more fiscally responsible alternative candidates do. Just the pie in the sky additional revenue from more IRS agents is a fantasy. The spending is real, however.
    Oh please, Gasbag.

    You've fallen in and out of love with so many so-called "fiscal hawks" over the past 20 years it'd be embarrassing to someone without senile dementia.
    Biden has dementia.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    edited November 2021
    SFGbob said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
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