One of the many quaint beliefs the Left has about the US is that it's a relatively low-tax country
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So you’re like, a progressive?Pitchfork51 said:I want to take the entitlements of people I dont like so I have more and they are miserable
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So plus 0.6%. And?hardhat said:
You seem focused on federal income taxes. Washington state just levied a .6% payroll tax that is allegedly for long-term care, but after analysis it doesn't seem to help much. I don't remember voting on it. State and local taxes are part of the overall tax burden.HHusky said:
But no one was willing to change that. Which has been my message to you for literally decades. It ain’t ever happening.SFGbob said:
If they would have let me opted out of that fucking Ponzi scheme as late as my 50th birthday I would have gladly opted out of SS. Got my SS statement in the mail the other day list from me how much of my and my employers money they've been stealing from us since the beginning of my work years. I'd easily have additional millions in retirement funds if they would have put the money in a simple index fund.HHusky said:
Because the money is already spent. There is not a chance in Hell any of you rock ribbed “conservatives” isn’t going to accept your entitlements.hardhat said:
Why do you think we just need more taxes?HHusky said:
You don’t want to pay European tax rates and you don’t receive European benefits. You especially don’t want me paying European rates . . . ‘cuz socialism, of course.hardhat said:
Is there a chance that you missed the point of the discussion?HHusky said:
There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.hardhat said:
I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?HHusky said:
Bullshit. No you don’t.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.LoneStarDawg said:Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.
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That is fucking embarrassing.RaceBannon said:
What kind of a dumbfuck votes for this?
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You wouldn’t have done it.SFGbob said:Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.
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Neither did your lord and masters of the stateHHusky said:
You wouldn’t have done it.SFGbob said:Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.
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Yes, because people like you don't support it and then you vote for people who oppose it.HHusky said:
And what happened? Exactly what I told you would happen.SFGbob said:
Reagan and W both wanted to change it.HHusky said:
You mean RR? GHWB? GWB?SFGbob said:
You and the people you vote for weren't willing to change it.HHusky said:
But no one was willing to change that. Which has been my message to you for literally decades. It ain’t ever happening.SFGbob said:
If they would have let me opted out of that fucking Ponzi scheme as late as my 50th birthday I would have gladly opted out of SS. Got my SS statement in the mail the other day list from me how much of my and my employers money they've been stealing from us since the beginning of my work years. I'd easily have additional millions in retirement funds if they would have put the money in a simple index fund.HHusky said:
Because the money is already spent. There is not a chance in Hell any of you rock ribbed “conservatives” isn’t going to accept your entitlements.hardhat said:
Why do you think we just need more taxes?HHusky said:
You don’t want to pay European tax rates and you don’t receive European benefits. You especially don’t want me paying European rates . . . ‘cuz socialism, of course.hardhat said:
Is there a chance that you missed the point of the discussion?HHusky said:
There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.hardhat said:
I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?HHusky said:
Bullshit. No you don’t.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.LoneStarDawg said:Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.
US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads
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What the fuck are you talking about? I was forced to put my money into Social Security. Why not give people the choice of putting that money into a simple index fund? And hell yes I would have done it. The benefits of the system I want would have been obvious to everyone. Only the true parasites who don't want to work would pick Social Security/Government Welfare.HHusky said:
You wouldn’t have done it.SFGbob said:Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.
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What are they talking about? I was told that the program wouldn't cost anyone anything.GrundleStiltzkin said:
That is fucking embarrassing.RaceBannon said:
What kind of a dumbfuck votes for this?
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People who don’t work collect a lot of SS do they?SFGbob said:
What the fuck are you talking about? I was forced to put my money into Social Security. Why not give people the choice of putting that money into a simple index fund? And hell yes I would have done it. The benefits of the system I want would have been obvious to everyone. Only the true parasites who don't want to work would pick Social Security/Government Welfare.HHusky said:
You wouldn’t have done it.SFGbob said:Investing $500.00 a month for 40 years, starting in 1980, invested in a simple SP 500 index fund, would give you nearly $5 million in retirement funds. All of us who have worked our entire adult lives, have easily contributed that amount, along with our employer contributions, into the Social Security scam.
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Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.
I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.
