The Obvious Voting-Rights Solution That No Democrat Will Propose
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It’s now King County’s responsibility to keep track of your free shit you’ve already been given?HHusky said:
Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)RaceBannon said:
That would be now dumbassHHusky said:
When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.RaceBannon said:HHusky said:Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.
I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.
Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?
The side that aren’t fascistRaceBannon said:Of course the left wants a national ID registry
They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan
States run elections
Squeal like a pig over free state ID
Demand a national data base
Fuck off
Till then . . .
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Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
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So why not state ID which we have now.HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
Oh I just answered my question
Don't support an obvious solution that is available today. Go for a horrible solution that no one wants other than fascists.
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In English?doogie said:
It’s now King County’s responsibility to keep track of your free shit you’ve already been given?HHusky said:
Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)RaceBannon said:
That would be now dumbassHHusky said:
When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.RaceBannon said:HHusky said:Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.
I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.
Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?
The side that aren’t fascistRaceBannon said:Of course the left wants a national ID registry
They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan
States run elections
Squeal like a pig over free state ID
Demand a national data base
Fuck off
Till then . . .
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Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
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Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
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So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
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Look if you think leftists need to be consistent in the bullshit they spout think againhardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
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It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.hardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
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AgainHHusky said:
It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.hardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
What's the problem with the state ID we have RIGHT NOW already in place that doesn't require fascism to institute?
Why is that racist?
Don't hurt yourself -
Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?HHusky said:
It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.hardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
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Why does it have to be a national id? A lot of innovation comes from having an early adopter, one state could implement this a lot faster and others would follow. And post covid, voting in person, provided there's enough time, even making it a holiday, would hopefully bring out more voters. Why are dems afraid of this?
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I don't have a state ID issued to me at the state's expense. Do you?RaceBannon said:
AgainHHusky said:
It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.hardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
What's the problem with the state ID we have RIGHT NOW already in place that doesn't require fascism to institute?
Why is that racist?
Don't hurt yourself -
I'm not poor. I could in California
You don't have a national free ID either
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A national ID is issued to citizens. If we uniformly say you have to show it as a condition of voting, I don't see how that can be racist.hardhat said:
Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?HHusky said:
It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.hardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
A fucking waste of time and resources, sure, but not racist. -
I'd have to ask again why other countries do it if it's such a fucking waste of time.HHusky said:
A national ID is issued to citizens. If we uniformly say you have to show it as a condition of voting, I don't see how that can be racist.hardhat said:
Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?HHusky said:
It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.hardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
A fucking waste of time and resources, sure, but not racist. -
Blacks can’t get a national ID because they don’t have a access kinkos or FedEx to get their picture taken. And if they did, they wouldn’t know how to get there.HHusky said:
A national ID is issued to citizens. If we uniformly say you have to show it as a condition of voting, I don't see how that can be racist.hardhat said:
Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?HHusky said:
It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.hardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
A fucking waste of time and resources, sure, but not racist. -
Also they’d need a ride and couldn’t get off work.
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They can't get jobs. C'mon man!Bob_C said:Also they’d need a ride and couldn’t get off work.
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Taking the information off the ID is probably just a substitute for what a poll worker already asks you at a polling place in the U.S. If it ever became the norm here, the same substitution of energy would apply. But the actual implementation of a national ID program, if it is implemented solely in order to prevent voter impersonation, is an enormous waste of money and effort. The crime isn't being committed in the first place.hardhat said:
I'd have to ask again why other countries do it if it's such a fucking waste of time.HHusky said:
A national ID is issued to citizens. If we uniformly say you have to show it as a condition of voting, I don't see how that can be racist.hardhat said:
Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?HHusky said:
It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.hardhat said:
So it's not racist to require voter id.HHusky said:
Seems like an argument there are would fail.hardhat said:
Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?HHusky said:
Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)hardhat said:
Why do other countries require voter id?TheKobeStopper said:
I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.thechatch said:Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.
A fucking waste of time and resources, sure, but not racist. -
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So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.hardhat said:
Some deep/surveillance state, huh?
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Update the rolls by telepathy?hardhat said: -
Is that how it's done?HHusky said:
Update the rolls by telepathy?hardhat said: -
I'm asking you. You think the registrar should have understood the voter's intent?hardhat said:
Is that how it's done?HHusky said:
Update the rolls by telepathy?hardhat said:
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It's the state's responsibility to keep up to date and accurate voter rolls. I thought you were the expert on civics here. Sheesh.HHusky said:
I'm asking you. You think the registrar should have understood the voter's intent?hardhat said:
Is that how it's done?HHusky said:
Update the rolls by telepathy?hardhat said:
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I'm sure he'll be dropped before long, assuming he hasn't been casting his California ballots.hardhat said:
It's the state's responsibility to keep up to date and accurate voter rolls. I thought you were the expert on civics here. Sheesh.HHusky said:
I'm asking you. You think the registrar should have understood the voter's intent?hardhat said:
Is that how it's done?HHusky said:
Update the rolls by telepathy?hardhat said:
The presumption is in favor of an existing state citizenship in the absence of a clear intent to change one's state citizenship.
A really simple solution is to remove himself from the rolls by notifying the registrar. -
Attaboy. But you do see the problem. No state sits back passively and waits to be notified. But we are talking about California here, and so it's not surprising.HHusky said:
I'm sure he'll be dropped before long, assuming he hasn't been casting his California ballots.hardhat said:
It's the state's responsibility to keep up to date and accurate voter rolls. I thought you were the expert on civics here. Sheesh.HHusky said:
I'm asking you. You think the registrar should have understood the voter's intent?hardhat said:
Is that how it's done?HHusky said:
Update the rolls by telepathy?hardhat said:
The presumption is in favor of an existing state citizenship in the absence of a clear intent to change one's state citizenship.