Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.

The Obvious Voting-Rights Solution That No Democrat Will Propose

135

Comments

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    It’s now King County’s responsibility to keep track of your free shit you’ve already been given?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    So why not state ID which we have now.

    Oh I just answered my question

    Don't support an obvious solution that is available today. Go for a horrible solution that no one wants other than fascists.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    doogie said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    It’s now King County’s responsibility to keep track of your free shit you’ve already been given?
    In English?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    Look if you think leftists need to be consistent in the bullshit they spout think again
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.
    Again

    What's the problem with the state ID we have RIGHT NOW already in place that doesn't require fascism to institute?

    Why is that racist?

    Don't hurt yourself
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.
    Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    Why does it have to be a national id? A lot of innovation comes from having an early adopter, one state could implement this a lot faster and others would follow. And post covid, voting in person, provided there's enough time, even making it a holiday, would hopefully bring out more voters. Why are dems afraid of this?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.
    Again

    What's the problem with the state ID we have RIGHT NOW already in place that doesn't require fascism to institute?

    Why is that racist?

    Don't hurt yourself
    I don't have a state ID issued to me at the state's expense. Do you?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    I'm not poor. I could in California

    You don't have a national free ID either

    Gee
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.
    Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?
    A national ID is issued to citizens. If we uniformly say you have to show it as a condition of voting, I don't see how that can be racist.

    A fucking waste of time and resources, sure, but not racist.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.
    Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?
    A national ID is issued to citizens. If we uniformly say you have to show it as a condition of voting, I don't see how that can be racist.

    A fucking waste of time and resources, sure, but not racist.
    I'd have to ask again why other countries do it if it's such a fucking waste of time.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.
    Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?
    A national ID is issued to citizens. If we uniformly say you have to show it as a condition of voting, I don't see how that can be racist.

    A fucking waste of time and resources, sure, but not racist.
    Blacks can’t get a national ID because they don’t have a access kinkos or FedEx to get their picture taken. And if they did, they wouldn’t know how to get there.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    Also they’d need a ride and couldn’t get off work.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    Bob_C said:

    Also they’d need a ride and couldn’t get off work.

    They can't get jobs. C'mon man!
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited September 2021
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Presumably they require you show your national ID for all sorts of reasons. I'm not the one against a national ID. ("Your papers!" memes to follow from the libertarian hen faction.)
    Are there are reasons that are presumably racist?
    Seems like an argument there are would fail.
    So it's not racist to require voter id.
    It's not racist to require a National ID, issued to every citizen without exception at the nation's expense. Apparently it's merely fascist, per Race.
    Is it racist to require that ID to vote? And if it is issued to a citizen?
    A national ID is issued to citizens. If we uniformly say you have to show it as a condition of voting, I don't see how that can be racist.

    A fucking waste of time and resources, sure, but not racist.
    I'd have to ask again why other countries do it if it's such a fucking waste of time.
    Taking the information off the ID is probably just a substitute for what a poll worker already asks you at a polling place in the U.S. If it ever became the norm here, the same substitution of energy would apply. But the actual implementation of a national ID program, if it is implemented solely in order to prevent voter impersonation, is an enormous waste of money and effort. The crime isn't being committed in the first place.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    hardhat said:
    So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.

    Some deep/surveillance state, huh?

  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:
    So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.

    Some deep/surveillance state, huh?

    States can and should update the voter rolls at least once a year, no? Or is it racist voter purging, as it was called by Stacey Abrams in Georgia.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:
    So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.

    Some deep/surveillance state, huh?

    States can and should update the voter rolls at least once a year, no? Or is it racist voter purging, as it was called by Stacey Abrams in Georgia.
    Update the rolls by telepathy?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:
    So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.

    Some deep/surveillance state, huh?

    States can and should update the voter rolls at least once a year, no? Or is it racist voter purging, as it was called by Stacey Abrams in Georgia.
    Update the rolls by telepathy?
    Is that how it's done?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:
    So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.

    Some deep/surveillance state, huh?

    States can and should update the voter rolls at least once a year, no? Or is it racist voter purging, as it was called by Stacey Abrams in Georgia.
    Update the rolls by telepathy?
    Is that how it's done?
    I'm asking you. You think the registrar should have understood the voter's intent?

  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:
    So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.

    Some deep/surveillance state, huh?

    States can and should update the voter rolls at least once a year, no? Or is it racist voter purging, as it was called by Stacey Abrams in Georgia.
    Update the rolls by telepathy?
    Is that how it's done?
    I'm asking you. You think the registrar should have understood the voter's intent?

    It's the state's responsibility to keep up to date and accurate voter rolls. I thought you were the expert on civics here. Sheesh.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited September 2021
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:
    So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.

    Some deep/surveillance state, huh?

    States can and should update the voter rolls at least once a year, no? Or is it racist voter purging, as it was called by Stacey Abrams in Georgia.
    Update the rolls by telepathy?
    Is that how it's done?
    I'm asking you. You think the registrar should have understood the voter's intent?

    It's the state's responsibility to keep up to date and accurate voter rolls. I thought you were the expert on civics here. Sheesh.

    I'm sure he'll be dropped before long, assuming he hasn't been casting his California ballots.

    The presumption is in favor of an existing state citizenship in the absence of a clear intent to change one's state citizenship.

    A really simple solution is to remove himself from the rolls by notifying the registrar.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited September 2021
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:
    So a guy moved two years ago and thinks the registrar should have noticed.

    Some deep/surveillance state, huh?

    States can and should update the voter rolls at least once a year, no? Or is it racist voter purging, as it was called by Stacey Abrams in Georgia.
    Update the rolls by telepathy?
    Is that how it's done?
    I'm asking you. You think the registrar should have understood the voter's intent?

    It's the state's responsibility to keep up to date and accurate voter rolls. I thought you were the expert on civics here. Sheesh.

    I'm sure he'll be dropped before long, assuming he hasn't been casting his California ballots.

    The presumption is in favor of an existing state citizenship in the absence of a clear intent to change one's state citizenship.
    Attaboy. But you do see the problem. No state sits back passively and waits to be notified. But we are talking about California here, and so it's not surprising.