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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited September 2021
    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    It’s gonna be a real bitch when they need an ID to go with their vaccine card to buy food.
    So Mike would rather change the subject.

    Quite the surprise.
    To what? IDs is the latest topic. How will they manage? Voting, moving around in society…. It’s going to be tough not being able to get that ID.
    The 21,000,000 people estimated to be in that position must be managing. Of course, they can't vote in some states, so there's that.
    The ROI on getting a drivers license is probably higher than any purchase in society even at $25. Should probably charge way more given the opportunities out there.
    I'm just glad we agree the "free state ID" bullshit is exactly that.

    #Progress
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited September 2021
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    It’s gonna be a real bitch when they need an ID to go with their vaccine card to buy food.
    So Mike would rather change the subject.

    Quite the surprise.
    To what? IDs is the latest topic. How will they manage? Voting, moving around in society…. It’s going to be tough not being able to get that ID.
    The 21,000,000 people estimated to be in that position must be managing. Of course, they can't vote in some states, so there's that.
    The ROI on getting a drivers license is probably higher than any purchase in society even at $25. Should probably charge way more given the opportunities out there.
    I'm just glad we agree the "free state ID" bullshit is exactly that.

    #Progress
    Give it away for free, I don’t care. Point is people would willing to pay a lot for it because of what it unlocks. Which tells you it isn’t actually a real problem. If you don’t have an ID I can’t imagine that voting in the midterms is what you care about anyways.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    It’s gonna be a real bitch when they need an ID to go with their vaccine card to buy food.
    So Mike would rather change the subject.

    Quite the surprise.
    To what? IDs is the latest topic. How will they manage? Voting, moving around in society…. It’s going to be tough not being able to get that ID.
    The 21,000,000 people estimated to be in that position must be managing. Of course, they can't vote in some states, so there's that.
    The ROI on getting a drivers license is probably higher than any purchase in society even at $25. Should probably charge way more given the opportunities out there.
    I'm just glad we agree the "free state ID" bullshit is exactly that.

    #Progress
    Give it away for free, I don’t care. Point is people would willing to pay a lot for it because of what it unlocks. Which tells you it isn’t actually a real problem. If you don’t have an ID I can’t imagine that voting in the midterms is what you care about anyways.
    The Iwo Jima veteran who couldn't vote three or four years back is looking for a driver's license to unlock opportunities?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    @HHusky voted for the moron who is jacking up gas prices and inflation directly fucking the poor but he cares about free ID being unaffordable

    Biden voters.

    Weird that you're worried about them voting then.
    Who is “them”?
    I quoted the comment I was replying to. See if you can figure it out.
    Who is them?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    The fact that most countries in the world require it invalidates that conspiracy theory.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited September 2021
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    The fact that most countries in the world require it invalidates that conspiracy theory.
    C'mon. You got a Roosevelt education and you're not on the GOP payroll. You know this is about how certain populations vote. Voter impersonation at the polls is a felony--the prize for taking that risk is one vote--and your odds of ever seeing it rival your odds of winning the grand prize in the Powerball drawing.

    A national ID program to prevent voter impersonation is a boondoggle. But I am willing to see us adopt it in order to avoid this evidence-free claim of massive voter impersonation in future. It won't be the first good money we've ever thrown after bad.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Bob_C said:

    The IRS has the real teeth and could actually be useful. Require an Id # that is cross checked when taxes are filed. No ID on your form and your taxes aren’t considered filed. Since it’s required to file taxes, it’s no longer racist.

    poc dont know how to file taxes
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    The fact that most countries in the world require it invalidates that conspiracy theory.
    C'mon. You got a Roosevelt education and you're not on the GOP payroll. You know this is about how certain populations vote. Voter impersonation at the polls is a felony--the prize for taking that risk is one vote--and your odds of ever seeing it rival your odds of winning the grand prize in the Powerball drawing.

    A national ID program to prevent voter impersonation is a boondoggle. But I am willing to see us adopt it in order to avoid this evidence-free claim of massive voter impersonation in future. It won't be the first good money we've ever thrown after bad.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    The FAA ring a bell?

  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    Are you saying no black people vote republican?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    JFC

    The democrats are all in on winning with Hispanics and abandoning Blacks

    They ran a virulent racist and won
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    JFC

    The democrats are all in on winning with Hispanics and abandoning Blacks

    They ran a virulent racist and won
    Dems aren't doing well with hispanics either. Latinx was a bit of a miserable failure. Obsession with chicks with dicks competing against girls in high school sports backfired.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Maybe you should move to one of those countries.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    edited September 2021
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    Are you saying no black people vote republican?
    More African Americans voted GOP for Trump than any other presidential candidate in the last 30 years by a factor of what 10% or close to that? They are fleeing the RAT plantation. Oh and I believe he garnered a much higher Latina vote than any other previous GOP candidate as well. So Trump won minorities over all previous GOP cucks by a massive margin yet Colonel Pike got more votes in the history of presidential races....Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall...
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    JFC

    The democrats are all in on winning with Hispanics and abandoning Blacks

    They ran a virulent racist and won
    One racist defeats another racist. American electoral history in a nutshell.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    I’m letting the free market decide if those businesses are racist. The government, however, answers to me.
    Why do other countries require voter id?
    Maybe you should move to one of those countries.
    Maybe you can remove the buttplug and try to answer the question.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    JFC

    The democrats are all in on winning with Hispanics and abandoning Blacks

    They ran a virulent racist and won
    One racist defeats another racist. American electoral history in a nutshell.
    You voted for the racist

    I didn't
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    thechatch said:

    Still waiting for @TheKobeStopper to explain why voter ID is racist while vax cards to eat at restaurants or fly on airplanes is not.

    Looks like it's going to be a long wait.
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,332 Founders Club

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    JFC

    The democrats are all in on winning with Hispanics and abandoning Blacks

    They ran a virulent racist and won
    One racist defeats another racist. American electoral history in a nutshell.
    You voted for the racist

    I didn't
    At least he's admitting Biden is a racist. You can't imagine how hard that must be for him. Facts are HARD
  • Alexis
    Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,387 Founders Club
    Man. If this was a fight and the cornerman hadn't yet thrown in the towel, they would lose their license and probably be arrested for manslaughter.

    Painful.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    RoadTrip said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    Are you saying no black people vote republican?
    More African Americans voted GOP for Trump than any other presidential candidate in the last 30 years by a factor of what 10% or close to that? They are fleeing the RAT plantation. Oh and I believe he garnered a much higher Latina vote than any other previous GOP candidate as well. So Trump won minorities over all previous GOP cucks by a massive margin yet Colonel Pike got more votes in the history of presidential races....Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall...
    And Trump still lost those voting blocs (to a racist!) by a yuge amount. Congrats on your moral victory though.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    RoadTrip said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Voter-ID requirements are the norm in many countries, as Republicans are fond of pointing out. But so are national ID cards.

    I've been saying this for years. Just provide everyone a national ID card.

    Which side of the aisle will most strongly object to that proposal?

    Of course the left wants a national ID registry

    They just gave the Taliban the one from Afghanistan

    States run elections

    The side that aren’t fascist


    Squeal like a pig over free state ID

    Demand a national data base

    Fuck off
    When people aren't spending money they don't have in order to get "free state ID", you'll have a point.

    Till then . . .

    Fuck off
    That would be now dumbass
    Which counties are giving away birth certificates? (King County wants $25)
    Where are you going with this birth certificate thing? Because you need ID just to get it, such as a social security card...which is free.
    You need ID to get "free ID". A social security card is not by itself enough to get a "free ID" in any state I've looked at.
    How would anyone get these magical national id cards at some point in the future? By showing some form of ID maybe?
    It will take awhile to phase it in. Obviously you can assign a number at birth (in the US, not Kenya).

    I'm sure if the same furreners who require voter ID could figure it out, real 'muricans can too.
    It would take time to phase anything in. Even now, a state could issue this, making it free for those that do not have the money to pay for it, or to just not charge for it at all and to automatically issue it to everyone that has a driver's license or passport. It's possible. But what bothers me, snarkiness aside:
    Isn't it racist to require ID to vote? This was an argument until quite recently. It was also said that it was too hard for black people to get to a Xerox machine.
    It's a fucking silly waste of energy and money to prevent a crime that isn't being committed. I've never said it's racist. If the very young and old, the poor, or African Americans were overwhelmingly voting Republican, Republicans would never turn down those votes and wouldn't sponsor voter ID legislation. This is only about who votes Democrat; nobody is trying to suppress the vote because of race.
    I strenuously object. If black people voted Republican and they needed those votes, sure. But they’d take away their right to vote completely, the second they thought they could win without them, if they could.
    Are you saying no black people vote republican?
    More African Americans voted GOP for Trump than any other presidential candidate in the last 30 years by a factor of what 10% or close to that? They are fleeing the RAT plantation. Oh and I believe he garnered a much higher Latina vote than any other previous GOP candidate as well. So Trump won minorities over all previous GOP cucks by a massive margin yet Colonel Pike got more votes in the history of presidential races....Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall...
    And Trump still lost those voting blocs (to a racist!) by a yuge amount. Congrats on your moral victory though.
    Congrats on being a snarktard while making an ass out of yourself.