This entire message board is naive and borderline racist. You have people starting threads after we offered a kid with “(dark skinned)” in parenthesis. It’s embarrassing. It’s almost like the majority of posters have never left Seattle/Western Washington which isn’t exactly the cradle of diversity.
I begrudgingly admit that I too was a listener of TSIO. It had entertainment value to me, that much is true. But I also thought DDY was a huge assclown. It's still unclear to me if he was actually gay? Black? Paraplegic? Had any football credentials besides self proclaimed ones?
I would be glad to see Ballz return cus that guy is gold in every way (except ruining threads sometimes). DDY and Coke can get fucked tho. Last thing we need is them returning with tails tucked from there massive failure and getting built up a lil by being welcomed back. That would catapult them into another dimension of undeserving arrogance. Trust that it's better without them.
Ballz can walk in that door anytime as far as I'm concerned tho.
Ballz is the worst kind of race baiting cunt. He talked shit, called names, threatened, boasted about his size and ethnicity, then was hypervigilant about finding any opening to label someone as racist. Simply disagreeing with him enough times or too strongly was all it took. Fuck him.
Dennis went off the deep end from what I could see. His DDY shtick, at the end,, wasn't even a caricature. It seemed like he got lost in it.
I dont know what his original background in football was, but he had some connection to the original site/s that became dawgman. He's been evaluating football recruits for a long time. It didn't make him right all the time or even often, but he is experienced at it.
Oh fuck, I kinda forgotten about that, and your right. Maybe I won't go trolling the Everett reststop tonight looking to bring back @Ballz . Or I might.
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
Apparently it was used to negatively recruit? Im not sure though
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
Apparently it was used to negatively recruit? Im not sure though
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
It's not weird enablement of anything for Christ's sake, PGOS. I never agreed with their shitty takes on the subject.
DDY and Coker - in spite of their delusions of grandeur - are nobody's in the world of Husky football punditry.
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
Apparently it was used to negatively recruit? Im not sure though
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
It's not weird enablement of anything for Christ's sake, PGOS. I never agreed with their shitty takes on the subject.
DDY and Coker - in spite of their delusions of grandeur - are nobody's in the world of Husky football punditry.
Their opinions aren't influencing shit.
It's okay to say that the racist shit they were posting was incredibly bad optics for this website at the very, very least. Especially since most of it took place on the recruiting board...which parents and recruits do read.
It was really fucking bad and people are being disingenuous by glossing over it. Case closed.
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
Apparently it was used to negatively recruit? Im not sure though
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
It's not weird enablement of anything for Christ's sake, PGOS. I never agreed with their shitty takes on the subject.
DDY and Coker - in spite of their delusions of grandeur - are nobody's in the world of Husky football punditry.
Their opinions aren't influencing shit.
It's okay to say that the racist shit they were posting was incredibly bad optics for this website at the very, very least. Especially since most of it took place on the recruiting board...which parents and recruits do read.
It was really fucking bad and people are being disingenuous by glossing over it. Case closed.
I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of their theories were B.S.
But I have a hard time believing that their commentary on our board had any influence on our recruiting one way or another. Why would a recruit and their parents decide not to commit to UW based on DDY/Coker vs a 100 deciding other factors.
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
Apparently it was used to negatively recruit? Im not sure though
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
It's not weird enablement of anything for Christ's sake, PGOS. I never agreed with their shitty takes on the subject.
DDY and Coker - in spite of their delusions of grandeur - are nobody's in the world of Husky football punditry.
Their opinions aren't influencing shit.
It's okay to say that the racist shit they were posting was incredibly bad optics for this website at the very, very least. Especially since most of it took place on the recruiting board...which parents and recruits do read.
It was really fucking bad and people are being disingenuous by glossing over it. Case closed.
I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of their theories were B.S.
But I have a hard time believing that their commentary on our board had any influence on our recruiting one way or another. Why would a recruit and their parents decide not to commit to UW based on DDY/Coker vs a 100 deciding other factors.
People have said it was used to negatively recruit. Whether OKG was already being used to negatively recruit by other schools before or after they went off the deepend, I dont know.
I know Derek doesnt go on the recruiting board as he doesn't really care about it, but to have a power user like DDY spewing that shit all over the website was, like I said earlier, incredibly cringe at best and damaging at worst.
I thought DDY and Coke were funny and even listened to the pod every now and then before they went full on psycho with this nonsense. Like literally labeling race in the title of their threads about high schoolers.
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
Apparently it was used to negatively recruit? Im not sure though
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
It's not weird enablement of anything for Christ's sake, PGOS. I never agreed with their shitty takes on the subject.
DDY and Coker - in spite of their delusions of grandeur - are nobody's in the world of Husky football punditry.
Their opinions aren't influencing shit.
It's okay to say that the racist shit they were posting was incredibly bad optics for this website at the very, very least. Especially since most of it took place on the recruiting board...which parents and recruits do read.
It was really fucking bad and people are being disingenuous by glossing over it. Case closed.
I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of their theories were B.S.
But I have a hard time believing that their commentary on our board had any influence on our recruiting one way or another. Why would a recruit and their parents decide not to commit to UW based on DDY/Coker vs a 100 deciding other factors.
The recruit and parents wouldn't nor would they decide to eliminate or commit to one school over another b/c of any message boards.
The percentage a recruit would decide to come to UW (or any school) based on message boards is the same as training table offering hamburgers on Tuesday and Hot Dogs Wednesday not the other way around.
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
Apparently it was used to negatively recruit? Im not sure though
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
It's not weird enablement of anything for Christ's sake, PGOS. I never agreed with their shitty takes on the subject.
DDY and Coker - in spite of their delusions of grandeur - are nobody's in the world of Husky football punditry.
Their opinions aren't influencing shit.
It's okay to say that the racist shit they were posting was incredibly bad optics for this website at the very, very least. Especially since most of it took place on the recruiting board...which parents and recruits do read.
It was really fucking bad and people are being disingenuous by glossing over it. Case closed.
I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of their theories were B.S.
But I have a hard time believing that their commentary on our board had any influence on our recruiting one way or another. Why would a recruit and their parents decide not to commit to UW based on DDY/Coker vs a 100 deciding other factors.
I begrudgingly admit that I too was a listener of TSIO. It had entertainment value to me, that much is true. But I also thought DDY was a huge assclown. It's still unclear to me if he was actually gay? Black? Paraplegic? Had any football credentials besides self proclaimed ones?
I would be glad to see Ballz return cus that guy is gold in every way (except ruining threads sometimes). DDY and Coke can get fucked tho. Last thing we need is them returning with tails tucked from there massive failure and getting built up a lil by being welcomed back. That would catapult them into another dimension of undeserving arrogance. Trust that it's better without them.
Ballz can walk in that door anytime as far as I'm concerned tho.
Inspite of there being a lotta of water under the bridge, I think our community would be better off with @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung than without. I’m sure the ship has sailed but I would not boo their return.
Only petty, jealous fucks who desire more recognition for themselves or who let politics drive their opinions about stuff that isn't political think otherwise. Either one of those guys were more valuable to this board than all of the guys batching about them combined.
Here's the deal retards. I didn't need to like or agree with anything those guys ever said in order to appreciate them being here. They created content and drove activity. Don't like it, don't click on it. Or you can weigh in and argue with them like big boys.
You know, it's funny how many vocal critics there are of DDY and Coker since they've been gone. I dont recall half as many when they were still posting So it to their face pussies.
I called DDY an enemy of the program to his internet face a few times. Rather than crying about bullying he chinned the poasts everytim.
Dennis could dish it out but he could also take it. He took his pet theories a little too seriously but he never took himself too seriously. I respect the dude.
For those that know DDY, it's easy to see how/why he takes his theories a little too far
Even some of his worst takes I could see the logic behind where he was coming from ... the disconnect normally in the form that he took some of his hypotheses as being more prevalent (at least consciously) than they likely were
I always thought DDY was a retard with the race takes. Coke's problem was that he took that schtick and tried to mold it into a serious thing. He went full-retard and became an enemy of the program.
Lol wut??? DDY brought up race more than Coker
Coker defended it. He told me to look into the fucking research. It was eugenics level misinformation and incredibly fucked up and fucking stupid.
Some nice dick sucking going on, but as soon as they went all-in on the race bullshit they became enemies of this website, football team, university, and humanity in general. A lot of you like to laugh it off, I encourage you to go reread some of the shit they were talking about.
DDY did have thick skin regarding a lot of that stuff...but this shit he was and probably still is dead serious about. It was fucking cringe at best and incredibly damaging at worst. Coker parroted the same exact talking points.
As a reminder, those talking points were:
- The program doesnt recruit "black" players - Players with one white parent aren't actually black - African immigrants aren't culturally black and dont count - OKG is at it's core a racist philosophy - White players aren't/can't be as good as black players - Black players (or those they deemed black enough) were needed to toughen up the program culturally because they might not come from "OKG environments" - Black players needed black names, not white sounding names
This was while UW had/has one of the most diverse rosters in football white white, black, poly, and even a Chinese starting safety and a Phillipino DB..and of course it ignored demographics and the rest of the Pac 12 rosters
Lots of rose tinted glasses going on here because of the funny shit takes they had on their pod and how they initially rallied the community with humor. It turned toxic and withered rather easily, says 34-17. Really embrassing shit.
Did DDY or Coker's commentary here or on Twatter or on TSIO have any impact whatsoever on the trajectory of the football program? Doubtful IMHO.
Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
Apparently it was used to negatively recruit? Im not sure though
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
It's not weird enablement of anything for Christ's sake, PGOS. I never agreed with their shitty takes on the subject.
DDY and Coker - in spite of their delusions of grandeur - are nobody's in the world of Husky football punditry.
Their opinions aren't influencing shit.
It's okay to say that the racist shit they were posting was incredibly bad optics for this website at the very, very least. Especially since most of it took place on the recruiting board...which parents and recruits do read.
It was really fucking bad and people are being disingenuous by glossing over it. Case closed.
I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of their theories were B.S.
But I have a hard time believing that their commentary on our board had any influence on our recruiting one way or another. Why would a recruit and their parents decide not to commit to UW based on DDY/Coker vs a 100 deciding other factors.
People will use anything to their advantage if they can ...
Would using the opinions of message board idiots as a pitch in my recruiting be part of my strategy? Absolutely not.
But if that narrative in some ways is already being floated as a strategy in certain circles and I can piggy back on people saying "see, even their own people think their program is ____" ... I've seen crazier things.
Whether we like it or not at times, perception can be reality at times ...
It'd have been one thing for some of these narratives that were advanced to be "hey, I'm seeing this narrative being advanced in certain circles and it's not a good one ... that said, there's lot of evidence in the program that says that that narrative is BS" ...
The problem was that those that took communicating those narratives and ran with them in ways that almost assuredly weren't realistic at all ...
Without going full Tug here, my opinion simply is that I don't think a large percentage of the people look at what they do daily as being completely through the lens of race ... does it happen? Absolutely. But for the vast majority, I really do think that people evaluate each other based on their qualities as a person.
They took themselves a lot more seriously than many of you believe. Remember Husky Twitter and them genuinely believing their tweets helped get recruits?
Orange is right about Coker telling him about studies.
That being said, who cares?
They definitely took Twitter too seriously, no argument there.
One thing that disappointed me was right around the time of the Rose Bowl. DDY and Coker sent me PMs saying that they were going to no longer run the recruiting board on Hardcore Husky and instead would launch their own site. Coker said it was his lifelong dream to run a site like that full-time. It would be a more serious site than HH and would be a pay site. So I wished them well and told them not to be a stranger. Then I removed their status as mods, after which Coker PMs me and asks to be a mod for a few weeks longer (so he could pin update threads about his new site, etc.).
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Who cares if they are 2 guys who are full of shit on the above talking points? Does it make Hardcore Husky a less respected hive of scum and villainy than it already is?
It absolutely does. Almost all of the stuff joked about on here is tongue in cheek and it would take a real square to take it seriously. This was a notable exception. It was straight up racism..."black people are aggressive and violent thug ballers, Eddie and Levi arent really black, lighter skinned players don't really count as black by my Ivory Tower ignorant deductions"
Your weird enablement of this shit is noted I guess
DDY and Coker - in spite of their delusions of grandeur - are nobody's in the world of Husky football punditry.
Their opinions aren't influencing shit.
It was really fucking bad and people are being disingenuous by glossing over it. Case closed.
But I have a hard time believing that their commentary on our board had any influence on our recruiting one way or another. Why would a recruit and their parents decide not to commit to UW based on DDY/Coker vs a 100 deciding other factors.
I know Derek doesnt go on the recruiting board as he doesn't really care about it, but to have a power user like DDY spewing that shit all over the website was, like I said earlier, incredibly cringe at best and damaging at worst.
I thought DDY and Coke were funny and even listened to the pod every now and then before they went full on psycho with this nonsense. Like literally labeling race in the title of their threads about high schoolers.
It was bad. Case closed.
The percentage a recruit would decide to come to UW (or any school) based on message boards is the same as training table offering hamburgers on Tuesday and Hot Dogs Wednesday not the other way around.
Even some of his worst takes I could see the logic behind where he was coming from ... the disconnect normally in the form that he took some of his hypotheses as being more prevalent (at least consciously) than they likely were
Would using the opinions of message board idiots as a pitch in my recruiting be part of my strategy? Absolutely not.
But if that narrative in some ways is already being floated as a strategy in certain circles and I can piggy back on people saying "see, even their own people think their program is ____" ... I've seen crazier things.
Whether we like it or not at times, perception can be reality at times ...
It'd have been one thing for some of these narratives that were advanced to be "hey, I'm seeing this narrative being advanced in certain circles and it's not a good one ... that said, there's lot of evidence in the program that says that that narrative is BS" ...
The problem was that those that took communicating those narratives and ran with them in ways that almost assuredly weren't realistic at all ...
Without going full Tug here, my opinion simply is that I don't think a large percentage of the people look at what they do daily as being completely through the lens of race ... does it happen? Absolutely. But for the vast majority, I really do think that people evaluate each other based on their qualities as a person.