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Give Me Your Best Argument Against Voter ID

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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,420

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    Stop lying, Dazzler. "Literally" you go to this magic answer box on google/bing/duck duck go and type in 'How to obtain a birth certificate in Seattle". Pick any fucking town or county you want.

    Damn- there's a link. It's 'literally' a 3 second process.

    https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/vital-statistics/birth.aspx

    So you fleeced him at your hourly rate instead of paying $25 - fuck off.
    He knows how to contact the County in which he was born. He did that long before he asked me about it.

    This is a little like the argument you gals all loved about Covid: "I don't know any of the (500,000+) people who died, so it seems like a hoax to me."
    You must have missed this part:

    Fuck off.
    Goes without saying.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    This could be a compelling argument if you hadn’t already accused the Democratic Party of every other type of election fraud.

    The idea that we’ll pass voter ID laws and then you’ll just accept the results is ridiculous. You’ll claim we burned ballots and machines changed votes.

    Reaching the goal posts, against someone who’s just going to move it, is pointless. You know who is most likely to not have IDs and you want to prevent them from voting, period.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,667 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    I had to get one recently took 3 whole days to get almost all the way across the country from order to receipt. It was so hard!
    As much as I'm inclined to agree with the argument that something Sled can do almost any fucking retard should be able to do, the difficulty for the guy I'm talking about is trivial, but it is creating a real obstacle for him. But congrats on your success, Sled.

    A stupid as you obviously are means you don't know shit. But you have confirmed that yourself 100's of times.

    But being a loony lefty it was inevitable.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,655 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    Stop lying, Dazzler. "Literally" you go to this magic answer box on google/bing/duck duck go and type in 'How to obtain a birth certificate in Seattle". Pick any fucking town or county you want.

    Damn- there's a link. It's 'literally' a 3 second process.

    https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/vital-statistics/birth.aspx

    So you fleeced him at your hourly rate instead of paying $25 - fuck off.
    He knows how to contact the County in which he was born. He did that long before he asked me about it.

    This is a little like the argument you gals all loved about Covid: "I don't know any of the (500,000+) people who died, so it seems like a hoax to me."
    You must have missed this part:

    Fuck off.
    Goes without saying.
    Yet it doesn't stick.

    So, fuck off.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,509 Standard Supporter

    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    This could be a compelling argument if you hadn’t already accused the Democratic Party of every other type of election fraud.

    The idea that we’ll pass voter ID laws and then you’ll just accept the results is ridiculous. You’ll claim we burned ballots and machines changed votes.

    Reaching the goal posts, against someone who’s just going to move it, is pointless. You know who is most likely to not have IDs and you want to prevent them from voting, period.
    Illegal aliens?

    Dead people?

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,509 Standard Supporter
    Btw Kobe, your goalpost reasoning is pitiful.

    “If we give you voter ID law you’ll just make up a different excuse so that’s why we say no.”

    You’re a fucking clown.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,667 Standard Supporter
    Dems best argument is they won't be able to steal elections.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,846 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    LebamDawg said:

    The reason we should not have it

    There are 24 things that need an ID according to the Washington Examiner -

    it is good to have one thing out there where we don't need an ID.

    Benefits: Every time I leave the house I have to check, do I have my wallet, is my ID in the wallet? Damn it is confusing.

    Now I am going to vote, I walk down to the mailbox and insert ballot that my wife filled out for me, do not check for a wallet or ID, I saved 2-3 seconds and untold stressful moments.

    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    Madam, I gave you a reason. It fixes a non-existent problem: in person voter impersonation. And at a cost of suppressing a not insignificant number of legitimate votes.

    Feel free to continue to evade those basic truths.

    WTF are you talking about? I posed an answer to the OP's question and you make it sound like I think there is voter fraud. Sorry never mentioned it in my poast
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    This thread makes me wonder what @HHusky is hiding from?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,655 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Dems best argument is they won't be able to steal elections.

    At least it's honest.