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Give Me Your Best Argument Against Voter ID

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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    Stop lying, Dazzler. "Literally" you go to this magic answer box on google/bing/duck duck go and type in 'How to obtain a birth certificate in Seattle". Pick any fucking town or county you want.

    Damn- there's a link. It's 'literally' a 3 second process.

    https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/vital-statistics/birth.aspx

    So you fleeced him at your hourly rate instead of paying $25 - fuck off.
    He knows how to contact the County in which he was born. He did that long before he asked me about it.

    This is a little like the argument you gals all loved about Covid: "I don't know any of the (500,000+) people who died, so it seems like a hoax to me."
    You must have missed this part:

    Fuck off.
    Goes without saying.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    This could be a compelling argument if you hadn’t already accused the Democratic Party of every other type of election fraud.

    The idea that we’ll pass voter ID laws and then you’ll just accept the results is ridiculous. You’ll claim we burned ballots and machines changed votes.

    Reaching the goal posts, against someone who’s just going to move it, is pointless. You know who is most likely to not have IDs and you want to prevent them from voting, period.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    I had to get one recently took 3 whole days to get almost all the way across the country from order to receipt. It was so hard!
    As much as I'm inclined to agree with the argument that something Sled can do almost any fucking retard should be able to do, the difficulty for the guy I'm talking about is trivial, but it is creating a real obstacle for him. But congrats on your success, Sled.

    A stupid as you obviously are means you don't know shit. But you have confirmed that yourself 100's of times.

    But being a loony lefty it was inevitable.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    Stop lying, Dazzler. "Literally" you go to this magic answer box on google/bing/duck duck go and type in 'How to obtain a birth certificate in Seattle". Pick any fucking town or county you want.

    Damn- there's a link. It's 'literally' a 3 second process.

    https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/vital-statistics/birth.aspx

    So you fleeced him at your hourly rate instead of paying $25 - fuck off.
    He knows how to contact the County in which he was born. He did that long before he asked me about it.

    This is a little like the argument you gals all loved about Covid: "I don't know any of the (500,000+) people who died, so it seems like a hoax to me."
    You must have missed this part:

    Fuck off.
    Goes without saying.
    Yet it doesn't stick.

    So, fuck off.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,223 Standard Supporter

    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    This could be a compelling argument if you hadn’t already accused the Democratic Party of every other type of election fraud.

    The idea that we’ll pass voter ID laws and then you’ll just accept the results is ridiculous. You’ll claim we burned ballots and machines changed votes.

    Reaching the goal posts, against someone who’s just going to move it, is pointless. You know who is most likely to not have IDs and you want to prevent them from voting, period.
    Illegal aliens?

    Dead people?

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,223 Standard Supporter
    Btw Kobe, your goalpost reasoning is pitiful.

    “If we give you voter ID law you’ll just make up a different excuse so that’s why we say no.”

    You’re a fucking clown.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    Dems best argument is they won't be able to steal elections.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    LebamDawg said:

    The reason we should not have it

    There are 24 things that need an ID according to the Washington Examiner -

    it is good to have one thing out there where we don't need an ID.

    Benefits: Every time I leave the house I have to check, do I have my wallet, is my ID in the wallet? Damn it is confusing.

    Now I am going to vote, I walk down to the mailbox and insert ballot that my wife filled out for me, do not check for a wallet or ID, I saved 2-3 seconds and untold stressful moments.

    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    Madam, I gave you a reason. It fixes a non-existent problem: in person voter impersonation. And at a cost of suppressing a not insignificant number of legitimate votes.

    Feel free to continue to evade those basic truths.

    WTF are you talking about? I posed an answer to the OP's question and you make it sound like I think there is voter fraud. Sorry never mentioned it in my poast
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    This thread makes me wonder what @HHusky is hiding from?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    Sledog said:

    Dems best argument is they won't be able to steal elections.

    At least it's honest.

  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,272
    Just wondering

    Is there one person of color in this thread?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Is that Racist speak for “I can figure out how to get ID but of course “They “ can’t?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    HuskyJW said:

    Just wondering

    Is there one person of color in this thread?

    I'm purple.

    For whatever relevance 'person of color' holds to requiring proof of eligibility to vote - and vote once per election.



  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,272

    HuskyJW said:

    Just wondering

    Is there one person of color in this thread?

    I'm purple.

    For whatever relevance 'person of color' holds to requiring proof of eligibility to vote - and vote once per election.



    Was just wondering
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    HuskyJW said:


    HuskyJW said:

    Just wondering

    Is there one person of color in this thread?

    I'm purple.

    For whatever relevance 'person of color' holds to requiring proof of eligibility to vote - and vote once per election.



    Was just wondering
    I'm purple. Now you know. To counter @TheKobeStopper hate all white people agenda.

    He can hate purple people now too.




  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,662 Founders Club

    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    This could be a compelling argument if you hadn’t already accused the Democratic Party of every other type of election fraud.

    The idea that we’ll pass voter ID laws and then you’ll just accept the results is ridiculous. You’ll claim we burned ballots and machines changed votes.

    Reaching the goal posts, against someone who’s just going to move it, is pointless. You know who is most likely to not have IDs and you want to prevent them from voting, period.
    Hilarious that you acknowledge changing goalposts as a bad thing.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    He sounds stupid

    Not surprised you hired him
    Okay this shit was blow coffee out your nose and butt funny.
    Careful pop. Coffee is a gateway to harder drugs.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    He sounds stupid

    Not surprised you hired him
    Okay this shit was blow coffee out your nose and butt funny.
    Careful pop. Coffee is a gateway to harder drugs.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited March 2021
    Apparently the best argument FOR voter ID is that most people can get ID pretty easily.

    And that prevents the commission of a felony that no one ever commits anyway.

    Strong work, ladies!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    HHusky said:

    Apparently the best argument FOR voter ID is that most people can get ID pretty easily.

    And that prevents the commission of a felony that no one ever commits anyway.

    Strong work, ladies!

    The best argument for voter ID is to conduct fair and honest elections, eliminating the risk of voter fraud, duplicate ballots cast and ineligible voters. So if you're against any/all those things, you'd clearly fight against voter ID. Because, cheater.

    Fuck, you level up on stupid every fucking day. It is astounding and impressive at the same time.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    The most hilarious thing about this subject is we set up much more secure elections in Iraq etc.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Security has no place in election integrity
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    doogie said:

    Security has no place in election integrity

    Arguing against Voter ID is like being in favor of 14 men on the field because you're afraid you can't beat the other team straight up.

    You do realize there is a dedicated board to talk Husky Basketball, right?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    doogie said:

    Security has no place in election integrity

    Arguing against Voter ID is like being in favor of 14 men on the field because you're afraid you can't beat the other team straight up.

    Voter ID = Keeping the snipe out of your garden
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    edited March 2021
    HHusky said:

    doogie said:

    Security has no place in election integrity

    Arguing against Voter ID is like being in favor of 14 men on the field because you're afraid you can't beat the other team straight up.

    Voter ID = Keeping the snipe out of your garden
    You don't get bonus lives for leveling up on fucktardedness, Dazzler.

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,223 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2021
    HHusky said:

    Apparently the best argument FOR voter ID is that most people can get ID pretty easily.

    And that prevents the commission of a felony that no one ever commits anyway.

    Strong work, ladies!

    This is patently dishonest.

    The argument for government ID is to restore the public’s faith in our electoral process.

    The argument against it is......what, exactly?

    We are nearly 4 pages in and you have offered fuck all as a response.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    thechatch said:

    HHusky said:

    Apparently the best argument FOR voter ID is that most people can get ID pretty easily.

    And that prevents the commission of a felony that no one ever commits anyway.

    Strong work, ladies!



    The argument against it is......what, exactly?

    We are nearly 4 pages in and you have offered fuck all as a response.
    It's mean and it's orange.

    And RACIST!

    That's about all I can decipher from these clowns.