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Give Me Your Best Argument Against Voter ID

thechatch
thechatch Member Posts: 7,223 Standard Supporter
Try and avoid chickenshit responses like, “it unfairly marginalizes black folk who are somehow incapable of finding the DMV”.

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  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    It's racist since black people are too dumb to get id's... oh wait that is the democratic line.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    Funny to get anywhere around the capitol you have to show ID it seems Dims think it's OK there but not to vote.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    To get inside most Federal Buildings and all Federal Court houses you need to show a photo ID.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    SFGbob said:

    To get inside most Federal Buildings and all Federal Court houses you need to show a photo ID.

    Dems want black people to be able to put them in power.
    Once they're in power they sure as fuck don't want them anywhere near.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Requiring govt issued picture ID makes it harder to adjust elections by the Experts who know when The Voters got it wrong
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    Don’t even ask about getting on the internet
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,223 Standard Supporter

    Don’t even ask about getting on the internet

    It’s hard.

    But I hear we should switch to 100% mail in/online voting.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    IT'S RACIST!!!


    (You can use that as an argument for/against anything, you know).

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    SFGbob said:

    To get inside most Federal Buildings and all Federal Court houses you need to show a photo ID.

    Except in Washington DC.

    Because you can't get into, you know, Federal Buildings behind all that razor wire.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited March 2021
    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    He sounds stupid

    Not surprised you hired him
    racist
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    I had to get one recently took 3 whole days to get almost all the way across the country from order to receipt. It was so hard!
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    I had to get one recently took 3 whole days to get almost all the way across the country from order to receipt. It was so hard!
    As much as I'm inclined to agree with the argument that something Sled can do almost any fucking retard should be able to do, the difficulty for the guy I'm talking about is trivial, but it is creating a real obstacle for him. But congrats on your success, Sled.

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,008 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    I had to get one recently took 3 whole days to get almost all the way across the country from order to receipt. It was so hard!
    As much as I'm inclined to agree with the argument that something Sled can do almost any fucking retard should be able to do, the difficulty for the guy I'm talking about is trivial, but it is creating a real obstacle for him. But congrats on your success, Sled.

    Please HH, stop the bullshit. I needed a birth certificate after we lost it during a move. It took a week to get a replacement.

    There is virtually no reason to not have ID to vote so clue your plumber in so he can fly, buy alcohol, write a check, claim social security, drive a car, buy a gun, etc.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    edited March 2021
    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    Stop lying, Dazzler. "Literally" you go to this magic answer box on google/bing/duck duck go and type in 'How to obtain a birth certificate in Seattle". Pick any fucking town or county you want.

    Damn- there's a link. It's 'literally' a 3 second process.

    https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/vital-statistics/birth.aspx

    So you fleeced him at your hourly rate instead of paying $25 - fuck off.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    This x 1000
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,845
    edited March 2021
    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    Citation needed showing 160 million people are gravely concerned.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    He sounds stupid

    Not surprised you hired him
    Probably part of the rough trade
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam
    The reason we should not have it

    There are 24 things that need an ID according to the Washington Examiner -

    it is good to have one thing out there where we don't need an ID.

    Benefits: Every time I leave the house I have to check, do I have my wallet, is my ID in the wallet? Damn it is confusing.

    Now I am going to vote, I walk down to the mailbox and insert ballot that my wife filled out for me, do not check for a wallet or ID, I saved 2-3 seconds and untold stressful moments.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    LebamDawg said:

    The reason we should not have it

    There are 24 things that need an ID according to the Washington Examiner -

    it is good to have one thing out there where we don't need an ID.

    Benefits: Every time I leave the house I have to check, do I have my wallet, is my ID in the wallet? Damn it is confusing.

    Now I am going to vote, I walk down to the mailbox and insert ballot that my wife filled out for me, do not check for a wallet or ID, I saved 2-3 seconds and untold stressful moments.

    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    Madam, I gave you a reason. It fixes a non-existent problem: in person voter impersonation. And at a cost of suppressing a not insignificant number of legitimate votes.

    Feel free to continue to evade those basic truths.

  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    LebamDawg said:

    The reason we should not have it

    There are 24 things that need an ID according to the Washington Examiner -

    it is good to have one thing out there where we don't need an ID.

    Benefits: Every time I leave the house I have to check, do I have my wallet, is my ID in the wallet? Damn it is confusing.

    Now I am going to vote, I walk down to the mailbox and insert ballot that my wife filled out for me, do not check for a wallet or ID, I saved 2-3 seconds and untold stressful moments.

    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    Madam, I gave you a reason. It fixes a non-existent problem: in person voter impersonation. And at a cost of suppressing a not insignificant number of legitimate votes.

    Feel free to continue to evade those basic truths.



  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    Stop lying, Dazzler. "Literally" you go to this magic answer box on google/bing/duck duck go and type in 'How to obtain a birth certificate in Seattle". Pick any fucking town or county you want.

    Damn- there's a link. It's 'literally' a 3 second process.

    https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/vital-statistics/birth.aspx

    So you fleeced him at your hourly rate instead of paying $25 - fuck off.
    He knows how to contact the County in which he was born. He did that long before he asked me about it.

    This is a little like the argument you gals all loved about Covid: "I don't know any of the (500,000+) people who died, so it seems like a hoax to me."
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    MelloDawg said:

    thechatch said:

    HH has now posted multiple times in this thread and was incapable of offering a reasonable explanation as to why one needs identification to check out a library book, but not to participate in our most sacred of democratic processes.

    “It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”, he mutters.

    Meanwhile, half of the US population has serious concerns, regarding election fraud.

    But it’s apparently not a problem.

    If you wanted to make sure our election process was beyond reproach, you would be in favor of requiring ID at the polls. You would also be in favor of making it illegal to harvest ballots, and VBM would only be granted to individuals under narrow qualifications, and votes would be processed and counted by an equal representation of both political parties by bonded officials.

    One side is in favor of all of the above. The other is crying racism and doing everything they can to maintain and expand on the status quo.

    Why is that? If there is no issue with voter fraud, why wouldn’t you have the balls to say, “fine, assholes. Here’s your Voter ID law. Here’s a law that ends ballot harvesting. Here’s a law that guarantees fair and accurate counting at our election centers. We’ll still win.”

    But you won’t do that. And everyone knows why. Have some fucking balls and just admit it.

    Citation needed showing 160 million people are gravely concerned.
    Fuck off, Ostrich Boy.

    If you're fine with cheating so long as it supports your agenda, you're a Marxist.

    Are you gravely concerned?

    If not, again, fuck off, Ostrich Boy.



  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    It's a solution in desperate search for a problem to solve.

    Voter impersonation at the polls isn't a thing, for reasons that would become obvious to you if you thought about it at all. An ID requirement simply reduces voter participation.

    My white, 66 year old, US born and bred plumber just asked me for advice on how he can get a birth certificate. He's having a Hell of a time for reasons that are fairly trivial. But it is illustrative.

    Stop lying, Dazzler. "Literally" you go to this magic answer box on google/bing/duck duck go and type in 'How to obtain a birth certificate in Seattle". Pick any fucking town or county you want.

    Damn- there's a link. It's 'literally' a 3 second process.

    https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/vital-statistics/birth.aspx

    So you fleeced him at your hourly rate instead of paying $25 - fuck off.
    He knows how to contact the County in which he was born. He did that long before he asked me about it.

    This is a little like the argument you gals all loved about Covid: "I don't know any of the (500,000+) people who died, so it seems like a hoax to me."
    You must have missed this part:

    Fuck off.