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@HeretoBeatmyChest huh?YellowSnow said:
My threads usually do.FireCohen said:This thread delivers
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So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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Just get some douchey Beemer.Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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I think you should get a classy Ford Pinto and back it into a brick wall at 50mph.Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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Not really, at 90mphpawz said:
I think you should get a classy Ford Pinto and back it into a brick wall at 50mph.Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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Only at HH.com will you see a deer version of the “Lucky Pierre”. Lulz.1to392831weretaken said:I know this thread wasn't made to be taken seriously, but a real take on new Chevrolets is that they're getting fucked by a poorly crafted tax incentive. A long time ago, I saw a meme that gave me media room big belly laughs. Took me a while to find it, but here it is:
That buck in the middle there is GM. They took electrification seriously, devoted billions to R&D, and were first to market with affordable plug-ins. The problem is that they're now fucked. Being first meant they hit their tax credit quota before any other manufacturer but Tesla (totally different customer target) had even really gotten started. Now, they're having to compete with all of the feet-draggers at a $7500 disadvantage.
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So back to Minivans @1to392831weretaken ...1to392831weretaken said:
I think most people would be surprised what modern studless winter tires can do. (@PurpleThrobber: Ditch the studs. They tear up roads, flatten and become pointless quickly, and don't really give you that much more traction these days. People run studless in the Michigan UP just fine.) I've been up to the Baker ski resort sledding hill in January in a sport package RWD 3-series (4" ground clearance) with no chains. Ditto two different minivans. I rarely encounter roads I need to drive on that aren't plowed, but I guess there are times where simply ground clearance over the snow is the difference between moving or not. Those are times it's probably best to stay home anyway.YellowSnow said:
I don’t rock crawl per se but have used the shit out of my SUV over the years. Plenty of clearance situations in snow or off road. But yes you’re pretty much on the money.1to392831weretaken said:
Just perused Mazda's website and came away a little disappointed. Seems their fuel economy has dropped nearly 10 mpg across the board. My brother's 3 gets 40 mpg. Nothing they make gets over 31 combined now. I still think they have one of if not the best design aesthetics for any car you can buy under $60K (maybe higher), and they're dead-nuts reliable, but I commute 70 miles round trip, so I look for cars that are easy on the fuel.creepycoug said:
Mazda's are criminally underrated. For some reason, they are the least expensive of the Japanese line-up. Toyota and Honda (their luxury analogues) carry a higher sticker and get away with it. I haven't owned one but every person I know who has loves their Mazdas and swears by then. Subaru is like that too.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber has a CX9 - best fucking snow car EVER. AWD, throw some studs on that bad boy...like a snow leopard chasing down its prey.1to392831weretaken said:
Mazda is so massively underrated.PurpleThrobber said:We are an Asian car only family - Toyota, Mazda and Nissan.
Never have any issues with them. Ever.
@RoadDawg55's peeps make sweet rides.
I'm excited to see more ~$40K long range electrics hitting the market. Many Luddites still shit on electric, but to them I say, "Don't knock it 'till you've tried it." Quiet, torque for days, way fewer expensive parts to break or expensive maintenance to do, brakes last forever, and never having to stop at the gas station. Here in my corner of Washington, at 10 cents per kWh, it's like driving for free. In somewhere like Wenatchee, where it's under 3 cents? What idiot with a commute doesn't have one?
I used to be a "car guy." I went full fast strategy and bought a 3-Series new first thing after getting hired at my current job. It was my first new vehicle. Why did I get it? Rear wheel drive (steering input at both ends of the car), inline six (natural first and second order balance), manual transmission, back seat, under $40K. Thanks to broadening my horizons to include other expensive hobbies like home-ownership, I've stopped giving a fuck about any of that shit, and all I care about is lowest TCO. Even the cheapest, shittiest cars on the market today have creature comforts that parallel the most expensive car I've owned. For me, car purchases are a spreadsheet exercise: Purchase price minus depreciated value plus expected maintenance plus consumables over predicted length of ownership. Lowest wins. A $40K electric stacks up surprisingly well against all but the cheapest and most efficient gas car--IF it's from a manufacture that still qualifies for the tax rebate (to bring things back to my original post).
Whoever posted the picture of the Mustang Mach-E above is onto something. If you have to have a car that "looks like" an SUV (because, let's face it, only @Swaye actually uses his SUV for S and/or U...), you could do a lot worse. $36K after rebate for a luxury-adjacent car that will drive your eyes into the back of your skull on acceleration, pretty much run for free as long as you own it, and allow you to never have to stop at a gas station again. And, thanks to the tax rebate, you're calculating resale depreciation from a price $7500 above what you paid (IOW, six or seven years down the road, I'd rather be selling what started as a $40K long range electric than what started as a $25K Corolla).
/woman in Japanese board meeting
There's this misconception that you're fucked in the snow without AWD. The reality is that, although AWD is useful for getting started and getting up hills, it does fuck all for helping you stop. That's where proper tires come in. Now, proper tires and AWD? Even better. ATBSJBS, I've driven about a half million miles, and a lack of AWD has prevented me from getting where I wanted to go... once I can recall.
That's just my situation, though. I'm sure if I had a long, steep driveway, I'd feel differently about it.
It's not that vans, can't be kewl. I live in a town where the Mercedes Sprinter Van is ubiquitous and a status symbol and they are practical as hell for outdoor recreating. The VW vans have a cult following too. But the product that Honda, Chrysler, Toyota, etc, put out are these vapid, blobs which have no character. Mind you, I feel the same way about most of the crossover segment as well.
The only minivan my family had which had some degree of tuffness was an AWD 1992 Chevy Astrovan. I used to drive that fucker up rough dirt roads in Utah with 6 to 10" of snow on them. I amazed I never go it stuck but it had a solid AWD system and decent clearance.
Off all the current minivans, only the Sienna has AWD and its ugly as sin. -
C8 Vette you fag.Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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Chrysler Pacifica has AWD. I shouldn't really know that...YellowSnow said:
So back to Minivans @1to392831weretaken ...1to392831weretaken said:
I think most people would be surprised what modern studless winter tires can do. (@PurpleThrobber: Ditch the studs. They tear up roads, flatten and become pointless quickly, and don't really give you that much more traction these days. People run studless in the Michigan UP just fine.) I've been up to the Baker ski resort sledding hill in January in a sport package RWD 3-series (4" ground clearance) with no chains. Ditto two different minivans. I rarely encounter roads I need to drive on that aren't plowed, but I guess there are times where simply ground clearance over the snow is the difference between moving or not. Those are times it's probably best to stay home anyway.YellowSnow said:
I don’t rock crawl per se but have used the shit out of my SUV over the years. Plenty of clearance situations in snow or off road. But yes you’re pretty much on the money.1to392831weretaken said:
Just perused Mazda's website and came away a little disappointed. Seems their fuel economy has dropped nearly 10 mpg across the board. My brother's 3 gets 40 mpg. Nothing they make gets over 31 combined now. I still think they have one of if not the best design aesthetics for any car you can buy under $60K (maybe higher), and they're dead-nuts reliable, but I commute 70 miles round trip, so I look for cars that are easy on the fuel.creepycoug said:
Mazda's are criminally underrated. For some reason, they are the least expensive of the Japanese line-up. Toyota and Honda (their luxury analogues) carry a higher sticker and get away with it. I haven't owned one but every person I know who has loves their Mazdas and swears by then. Subaru is like that too.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber has a CX9 - best fucking snow car EVER. AWD, throw some studs on that bad boy...like a snow leopard chasing down its prey.1to392831weretaken said:
Mazda is so massively underrated.PurpleThrobber said:We are an Asian car only family - Toyota, Mazda and Nissan.
Never have any issues with them. Ever.
@RoadDawg55's peeps make sweet rides.
I'm excited to see more ~$40K long range electrics hitting the market. Many Luddites still shit on electric, but to them I say, "Don't knock it 'till you've tried it." Quiet, torque for days, way fewer expensive parts to break or expensive maintenance to do, brakes last forever, and never having to stop at the gas station. Here in my corner of Washington, at 10 cents per kWh, it's like driving for free. In somewhere like Wenatchee, where it's under 3 cents? What idiot with a commute doesn't have one?
I used to be a "car guy." I went full fast strategy and bought a 3-Series new first thing after getting hired at my current job. It was my first new vehicle. Why did I get it? Rear wheel drive (steering input at both ends of the car), inline six (natural first and second order balance), manual transmission, back seat, under $40K. Thanks to broadening my horizons to include other expensive hobbies like home-ownership, I've stopped giving a fuck about any of that shit, and all I care about is lowest TCO. Even the cheapest, shittiest cars on the market today have creature comforts that parallel the most expensive car I've owned. For me, car purchases are a spreadsheet exercise: Purchase price minus depreciated value plus expected maintenance plus consumables over predicted length of ownership. Lowest wins. A $40K electric stacks up surprisingly well against all but the cheapest and most efficient gas car--IF it's from a manufacture that still qualifies for the tax rebate (to bring things back to my original post).
Whoever posted the picture of the Mustang Mach-E above is onto something. If you have to have a car that "looks like" an SUV (because, let's face it, only @Swaye actually uses his SUV for S and/or U...), you could do a lot worse. $36K after rebate for a luxury-adjacent car that will drive your eyes into the back of your skull on acceleration, pretty much run for free as long as you own it, and allow you to never have to stop at a gas station again. And, thanks to the tax rebate, you're calculating resale depreciation from a price $7500 above what you paid (IOW, six or seven years down the road, I'd rather be selling what started as a $40K long range electric than what started as a $25K Corolla).
/woman in Japanese board meeting
There's this misconception that you're fucked in the snow without AWD. The reality is that, although AWD is useful for getting started and getting up hills, it does fuck all for helping you stop. That's where proper tires come in. Now, proper tires and AWD? Even better. ATBSJBS, I've driven about a half million miles, and a lack of AWD has prevented me from getting where I wanted to go... once I can recall.
That's just my situation, though. I'm sure if I had a long, steep driveway, I'd feel differently about it.
It's not that vans, can't be kewl. I live in a town where the Mercedes Sprinter Van is ubiquitous and a status symbol and they are practical as hell for outdoor recreating. The VW vans have a cult following too. But the product that Honda, Chrysler, Toyota, etc, put out are these vapid, blobs which have no character. Mind you, I feel the same way about most of the crossover segment as well.
The only minivan my family had which had some degree of tuffness was an AWD 1992 Chevy Astrovan. I used to drive that fucker up rough dirt roads in Utah with 6 to 10" of snow on them. I amazed I never go it stuck but it had a solid AWD system and decent clearance.
Off all the current minivans, only the Sienna has AWD and its ugly as sin.
