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I'm with you 100. Japanese all the way.USMChawk said:
I bought a used Corvette, in the mid-90’s, and it was nothing but a money pit. Sold it for what I paid for it, a year a half later, minus the $4000.00 in unscheduled maintenance. I will never buy American again. Now I’m all in on the Asian manufacturers. I’ve owned Mazda, Toyota, Infinity, Nissan and Hyundai, and have had no issues other than normal wear and tear.. Korean cars are taking a bite out of the Japanese market, and are priced competitively, as they are still fighting for market share. If you’re looking for a professional car I’d look to the Kia Optima hybrid. If you want something a little sportier then the Hyundai Veloster might be a better choice (although you might be a little old for it).Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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My Chevy Dealer, WW2 vet grandfather would roll over in his grave. My dad was a Chevy dealer too. Now he has a 4 runner and my mom drives an Outback.creepycoug said:
I'm with you 100. Japanese all the way.USMChawk said:
I bought a used Corvette, in the mid-90’s, and it was nothing but a money pit. Sold it for what I paid for it, a year a half later, minus the $4000.00 in unscheduled maintenance. I will never buy American again. Now I’m all in on the Asian manufacturers. I’ve owned Mazda, Toyota, Infinity, Nissan and Hyundai, and have had no issues other than normal wear and tear.. Korean cars are taking a bite out of the Japanese market, and are priced competitively, as they are still fighting for market share. If you’re looking for a professional car I’d look to the Kia Optima hybrid. If you want something a little sportier then the Hyundai Veloster might be a better choice (although you might be a little old for it).Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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The Japanese did two wonderful things for this clean country: they gave us quality cars at affordable prices; and they helped the American auto industry right its shit and compete.YellowSnow said:
My Chevy Dealer, WW2 vet grandfather would roll over in his grave. My dad was a Chevy dealer too. Now he has a 4 runner and my mom drives an Outback.creepycoug said:
I'm with you 100. Japanese all the way.USMChawk said:
I bought a used Corvette, in the mid-90’s, and it was nothing but a money pit. Sold it for what I paid for it, a year a half later, minus the $4000.00 in unscheduled maintenance. I will never buy American again. Now I’m all in on the Asian manufacturers. I’ve owned Mazda, Toyota, Infinity, Nissan and Hyundai, and have had no issues other than normal wear and tear.. Korean cars are taking a bite out of the Japanese market, and are priced competitively, as they are still fighting for market share. If you’re looking for a professional car I’d look to the Kia Optima hybrid. If you want something a little sportier then the Hyundai Veloster might be a better choice (although you might be a little old for it).Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
Banzai!!!
People other than Racebannon forget the K car. I actually got a ride home from practice in a new'ish K car that had not been in a wreck that had a door that didn't shut easily because the lines/fit were off. The fucking door didn't clear the jam without putting your upper leg into it. I remember my friend's dad was like, "they don't build 'em like they used to," and I remember even at that age wondering how you would tolerate a car so shitty off the production line that the door didn't close correctly.
That's what isolating yourself from the rest of the world and shielding your industries will do to you. Japan woke the US auto industry the fuck up.
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I’ve had one Ford I got when I was 16 and it’s lasted 16 years. Most expensive repair was a fuel pump replacement for $600. Everything else was basic maintenance. Guess it’s just the luck of the draw/dependent on the modelYellowSnow said:
I gotta agree with you here @USMChawk . I've owned 3 cars in my life - 2 American and 1 Japanese. Both the Chevy and the Ford always had crap breaking. No issues in 12 years with the Japanese vehicle.USMChawk said:
I bought a used Corvette, in the mid-90’s, and it was nothing but a money pit. Sold it for what I paid for it, a year a half later, minus the $4000.00 in unscheduled maintenance. I will never buy American again. Now I’m all in on the Asian manufacturers. I’ve owned Mazda, Toyota, Infinity, Nissan and Hyundai, and have had no issues other than normal wear and tear.. Korean cars are taking a bite out of the Japanese market, and are priced competitively, as they are still fighting for market share. If you’re looking for a professional car I’d look to the Kia Optima hybrid. If you want something a little sportier then the Hyundai Veloster might be a better choice (although you might be a little old for it).Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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American cars have improved 100%. Still, as recently as a '96 or '97 GMC Yukon I had was a fucking nightmare to own. I finally gave up and bought the legendary Sequoia and remembered why it had taken so long to go to an American car.ntxduck said:
I’ve had one Ford I got when I was 16 and it’s lasted 16 years. Most expensive repair was a fuel pump replacement for $600. Everything else was basic maintenance. Guess it’s just the luck of the draw/dependent on the modelYellowSnow said:
I gotta agree with you here @USMChawk . I've owned 3 cars in my life - 2 American and 1 Japanese. Both the Chevy and the Ford always had crap breaking. No issues in 12 years with the Japanese vehicle.USMChawk said:
I bought a used Corvette, in the mid-90’s, and it was nothing but a money pit. Sold it for what I paid for it, a year a half later, minus the $4000.00 in unscheduled maintenance. I will never buy American again. Now I’m all in on the Asian manufacturers. I’ve owned Mazda, Toyota, Infinity, Nissan and Hyundai, and have had no issues other than normal wear and tear.. Korean cars are taking a bite out of the Japanese market, and are priced competitively, as they are still fighting for market share. If you’re looking for a professional car I’d look to the Kia Optima hybrid. If you want something a little sportier then the Hyundai Veloster might be a better choice (although you might be a little old for it).Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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Hard to say.ntxduck said:
I’ve had one Ford I got when I was 16 and it’s lasted 16 years. Most expensive repair was a fuel pump replacement for $600. Everything else was basic maintenance. Guess it’s just the luck of the draw/dependent on the modelYellowSnow said:
I gotta agree with you here @USMChawk . I've owned 3 cars in my life - 2 American and 1 Japanese. Both the Chevy and the Ford always had crap breaking. No issues in 12 years with the Japanese vehicle.USMChawk said:
I bought a used Corvette, in the mid-90’s, and it was nothing but a money pit. Sold it for what I paid for it, a year a half later, minus the $4000.00 in unscheduled maintenance. I will never buy American again. Now I’m all in on the Asian manufacturers. I’ve owned Mazda, Toyota, Infinity, Nissan and Hyundai, and have had no issues other than normal wear and tear.. Korean cars are taking a bite out of the Japanese market, and are priced competitively, as they are still fighting for market share. If you’re looking for a professional car I’d look to the Kia Optima hybrid. If you want something a little sportier then the Hyundai Veloster might be a better choice (although you might be a little old for it).Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
Me: 1992 Full Size k 1500 Chevy Blazer then 2000 Ford Ranger 4 x 4. It’s not like either was a total lemon but way more parts needed replacing on those 2 than my Toyota. -
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How much scratch do you want to spend?Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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Idk. I hate spending money on cars. It just adds up fast for no benefit to my life. 400 a month maybe?dflea said:
How much scratch do you want to spend?Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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Guess I got lucky with the explorer then. Literally have crossed the country 10x in it and it’s been a beast.YellowSnow said:
Hard to say.ntxduck said:
I’ve had one Ford I got when I was 16 and it’s lasted 16 years. Most expensive repair was a fuel pump replacement for $600. Everything else was basic maintenance. Guess it’s just the luck of the draw/dependent on the modelYellowSnow said:
I gotta agree with you here @USMChawk . I've owned 3 cars in my life - 2 American and 1 Japanese. Both the Chevy and the Ford always had crap breaking. No issues in 12 years with the Japanese vehicle.USMChawk said:
I bought a used Corvette, in the mid-90’s, and it was nothing but a money pit. Sold it for what I paid for it, a year a half later, minus the $4000.00 in unscheduled maintenance. I will never buy American again. Now I’m all in on the Asian manufacturers. I’ve owned Mazda, Toyota, Infinity, Nissan and Hyundai, and have had no issues other than normal wear and tear.. Korean cars are taking a bite out of the Japanese market, and are priced competitively, as they are still fighting for market share. If you’re looking for a professional car I’d look to the Kia Optima hybrid. If you want something a little sportier then the Hyundai Veloster might be a better choice (although you might be a little old for it).Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
Me: 1992 Full Size k 1500 Chevy Blazer then 2000 Ford Ranger 4 x 4. It’s not like either was a total lemon but way more parts needed replacing on those 2 than my Toyota. -
That's a pretty tight budget. Why buy one - sounds like you don't drive much, so maybe a lease would be better for you.Pitchfork51 said:
Idk. I hate spending money on cars. It just adds up fast for no benefit to my life. 400 a month maybe?dflea said:
How much scratch do you want to spend?Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
You should get a truck, though. -
Buy something 2-3 years old, certified used if possible. $400 a month, if no money down and financed for 60 months, only gets you about $22,500 in buying power at current rates.Pitchfork51 said:
Idk. I hate spending money on cars. It just adds up fast for no benefit to my life. 400 a month maybe?dflea said:
How much scratch do you want to spend?Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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You're lucky you didn't have to do ball joints @ntxduck . Explorers and Rangers were notorious for bad ball joints. Had to do them on my Ranger at 55K.ntxduck said:
Guess I got lucky with the explorer then. Literally have crossed the country 10x in it and it’s been a beast.YellowSnow said:
Hard to say.ntxduck said:
I’ve had one Ford I got when I was 16 and it’s lasted 16 years. Most expensive repair was a fuel pump replacement for $600. Everything else was basic maintenance. Guess it’s just the luck of the draw/dependent on the modelYellowSnow said:
I gotta agree with you here @USMChawk . I've owned 3 cars in my life - 2 American and 1 Japanese. Both the Chevy and the Ford always had crap breaking. No issues in 12 years with the Japanese vehicle.USMChawk said:
I bought a used Corvette, in the mid-90’s, and it was nothing but a money pit. Sold it for what I paid for it, a year a half later, minus the $4000.00 in unscheduled maintenance. I will never buy American again. Now I’m all in on the Asian manufacturers. I’ve owned Mazda, Toyota, Infinity, Nissan and Hyundai, and have had no issues other than normal wear and tear.. Korean cars are taking a bite out of the Japanese market, and are priced competitively, as they are still fighting for market share. If you’re looking for a professional car I’d look to the Kia Optima hybrid. If you want something a little sportier then the Hyundai Veloster might be a better choice (although you might be a little old for it).Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
Me: 1992 Full Size k 1500 Chevy Blazer then 2000 Ford Ranger 4 x 4. It’s not like either was a total lemon but way more parts needed replacing on those 2 than my Toyota. -
U can get a decent car for 22.5kBleachedAnusDawg said:
Buy something 2-3 years old, certified used if possible. $400 a month, if no money down and financed for 60 months, only gets you about $22,500 in buying power at current rates.Pitchfork51 said:
Idk. I hate spending money on cars. It just adds up fast for no benefit to my life. 400 a month maybe?dflea said:
How much scratch do you want to spend?Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
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All you fucks and your "Buy Japanese" bullshit. Until the Japs build a Jeep they can go fuck off.
Just bought Mrs. Swaye a Toyota last year. I am still fighting the good fight with my love of Jeeps, butt fuck it man, I grew up with these things. Jeeps are a part of the fabric of my life. Outside of a couple of Jeeps hanging around the trailer, I'll probably never buy another American car again. It will be Jeeps, and whatever the Japs/Koreans/Germans want to sell me from here on in.
I hope the new Defender is a great ride, because that might be a Jeep alternative one day, but I have known several people who have owned modern Land Rovers and without exception they have been Service Center Queens. Anybody here ever had a reliable Land Rover?
edit: Just an aside...when I bought the Grand Cherokee in 2015 I got it loaded with every bell and whistle, and even added the lifetim warranty (did you know MOPAR stopped selling the lifetime warranty?) because even as much of a fanboy of the brand as I am, I can admit the truth that Jeeps are not your first thought when you hear the word reliable. But, with a 100 dollar deductible for ANYTHING that breaks on this thing for life, fuck it. Best 5 grand I ever spent. I'm driving this bitch until the wheels fall off. Now the 1985 Scrambler and 2005 Rubicon I'm on my own on. Good thing I've got lots of tools and skillz. -
Bruce Springsteen pretty well killed any boner for Jeeps.Swaye said:All you fucks and your "Buy Japanese" bullshit. Until the Japs build a Jeep they can go fuck off.
Just bought Mrs. Swaye a Toyota last year. I am still fighting the good fight with my love of Jeeps, butt fuck it man, I grew up with these things. Jeeps are a part of the fabric of my life. Outside of a couple of Jeeps hanging around the trailer, I'll probably never buy another American car again. It will be Jeeps, and whatever the Japs/Koreans/Germans want to sell me from here on in.
I hope the new Defender is a great ride, because that might be a Jeep alternative one day, but I have known several people who have owned modern Land Rovers and without exception they have been Service Center Queens. Anybody here ever had a reliable Land Rover?
edit: Just an aside...when I bought the Grand Cherokee in 2015 I got it loaded with every bell and whistle, and even added the lifetim warranty (did you know MOPAR stopped selling the lifetime warranty?) because even as much of a fanboy of the brand as I am, I can admit the truth that Jeeps are not your first thought when you hear the word reliable. But, with a 100 dollar deductible for ANYTHING that breaks on this thing for life, fuck it. Best 5 grand I ever spent. I'm driving this bitch until the wheels fall off. Now the 1985 Scrambler and 2005 Rubicon I'm on my own on. Good thing I've got lots of tools and skillz.
FTG, take this to the Tug, yadda yadda yadda
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Jeep love is like Harley love
Willing to buy inferior machinery because branding -
Land Rover / Range Rover are terribly unreliable, and expensive to fix out of warranty.Swaye said:All you fucks and your "Buy Japanese" bullshit. Until the Japs build a Jeep they can go fuck off.
Just bought Mrs. Swaye a Toyota last year. I am still fighting the good fight with my love of Jeeps, butt fuck it man, I grew up with these things. Jeeps are a part of the fabric of my life. Outside of a couple of Jeeps hanging around the trailer, I'll probably never buy another American car again. It will be Jeeps, and whatever the Japs/Koreans/Germans want to sell me from here on in.
I hope the new Defender is a great ride, because that might be a Jeep alternative one day, but I have known several people who have owned modern Land Rovers and without exception they have been Service Center Queens. Anybody here ever had a reliable Land Rover?
edit: Just an aside...when I bought the Grand Cherokee in 2015 I got it loaded with every bell and whistle, and even added the lifetim warranty (did you know MOPAR stopped selling the lifetime warranty?) because even as much of a fanboy of the brand as I am, I can admit the truth that Jeeps are not your first thought when you hear the word reliable. But, with a 100 dollar deductible for ANYTHING that breaks on this thing for life, fuck it. Best 5 grand I ever spent. I'm driving this bitch until the wheels fall off. Now the 1985 Scrambler and 2005 Rubicon I'm on my own on. Good thing I've got lots of tools and skillz. -
They did build a Jeep once. If they had any balls they'd build another REAL jeep and not the shitty for chicks and guys with small penises. The reissue FJ's weren't that cool.Swaye said:All you fucks and your "Buy Japanese" bullshit. Until the Japs build a Jeep they can go fuck off.
Just bought Mrs. Swaye a Toyota last year. I am still fighting the good fight with my love of Jeeps, butt fuck it man, I grew up with these things. Jeeps are a part of the fabric of my life. Outside of a couple of Jeeps hanging around the trailer, I'll probably never buy another American car again. It will be Jeeps, and whatever the Japs/Koreans/Germans want to sell me from here on in.
I hope the new Defender is a great ride, because that might be a Jeep alternative one day, but I have known several people who have owned modern Land Rovers and without exception they have been Service Center Queens. Anybody here ever had a reliable Land Rover?
edit: Just an aside...when I bought the Grand Cherokee in 2015 I got it loaded with every bell and whistle, and even added the lifetim warranty (did you know MOPAR stopped selling the lifetime warranty?) because even as much of a fanboy of the brand as I am, I can admit the truth that Jeeps are not your first thought when you hear the word reliable. But, with a 100 dollar deductible for ANYTHING that breaks on this thing for life, fuck it. Best 5 grand I ever spent. I'm driving this bitch until the wheels fall off. Now the 1985 Scrambler and 2005 Rubicon I'm on my own on. Good thing I've got lots of tools and skillz.
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Why do you hate Amerika?BearsWiin said:Jeep love is like Harley love
Willing to buy inferior machinery because branding
#takeittothetugcreep -
Glad you asked this. I have been thinking about going back into the luxury brand for one of the cars to compensate for the ever so slight fading of my swarthy Cuban good looks. Land Rover felt like a good buy for my aesthetic tastes. Sounds like most Engrish (I'm sure someone else builds it; don't care) cars: pretty to look at; delicate af in terms of reliability (i.e., Jaguar).Swaye said:All you fucks and your "Buy Japanese" bullshit. Until the Japs build a Jeep they can go fuck off.
Just bought Mrs. Swaye a Toyota last year. I am still fighting the good fight with my love of Jeeps, butt fuck it man, I grew up with these things. Jeeps are a part of the fabric of my life. Outside of a couple of Jeeps hanging around the trailer, I'll probably never buy another American car again. It will be Jeeps, and whatever the Japs/Koreans/Germans want to sell me from here on in.
I hope the new Defender is a great ride, because that might be a Jeep alternative one day, but I have known several people who have owned modern Land Rovers and without exception they have been Service Center Queens. Anybody here ever had a reliable Land Rover?
edit: Just an aside...when I bought the Grand Cherokee in 2015 I got it loaded with every bell and whistle, and even added the lifetim warranty (did you know MOPAR stopped selling the lifetime warranty?) because even as much of a fanboy of the brand as I am, I can admit the truth that Jeeps are not your first thought when you hear the word reliable. But, with a 100 dollar deductible for ANYTHING that breaks on this thing for life, fuck it. Best 5 grand I ever spent. I'm driving this bitch until the wheels fall off. Now the 1985 Scrambler and 2005 Rubicon I'm on my own on. Good thing I've got lots of tools and skillz.
I say get over the Japaneeze hurdle and get yourself a Land Rover. Those things are still built like ballz. Or so I'm told. WTF do I actually know? -
Eh the problem is that once I start going over that I can easily justify another 50, 100,200 etc.dflea said:
That's a pretty tight budget. Why buy one - sounds like you don't drive much, so maybe a lease would be better for you.Pitchfork51 said:
Idk. I hate spending money on cars. It just adds up fast for no benefit to my life. 400 a month maybe?dflea said:
How much scratch do you want to spend?Pitchfork51 said:So have you guys decided on a car for me or what
You should get a truck, though.
So I'm gonna set it at 400 and budge a bit.
Although honestly I'd rather do like 5-600 if it's no money down.
I've gotta get that 6 month emergency fund going asap. Almost there. But that's priority 1. -
I hate taking pride in mediocritycreepycoug said:
Why do you hate Amerika?BearsWiin said:Jeep love is like Harley love
Willing to buy inferior machinery because branding
#takeittothetugcreep -
You know why they don't build computers in the UK?
Couldn't figure out a way to make them leak oil.
I was at a Sonics game once, and they brought a pair of new Harleys out to center court at the half. When they cleared the floor for the second half of the game, they had to send a dude with a spray bottle and towel out there to clean up the oil one of them leaked.
If a vehicle isn't reliable, it should just be driven off a cliff. That's why people stroke themselves over Japanese rigs. I've had my Tacoma for almost 20 years and 370k miles and it's left me stranded zero times - which just happens to be the acceptable amount of times. That's a big selling point for me.
We got a foot of snow last night, so I'm going to go out and do some 4x4 driving. Just trying to figure out the best way to get out of town without some fucktard hitting me. You should see these retards try to drive around out there.
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Here in N. Idaho, we call them "the fucktards from W. Washington and California overpaying for real estate".dflea said:You know why they don't build computers in the UK?
Couldn't figure out a way to make them leak oil.
I was at a Sonics game once, and they brought a pair of new Harleys out to center court at the half. When they cleared the floor for the second half of the game, they had to send a dude with a spray bottle and towel out there to clean up the oil one of them leaked.
If a vehicle isn't reliable, it should just be driven off a cliff. That's why people stroke themselves over Japanese rigs. I've had my Tacoma for almost 20 years and 370k miles and it's left me stranded zero times - which just happens to be the acceptable amount of times. That's a big selling point for me.
We got a foot of snow last night, so I'm going to go out and do some 4x4 driving. Just trying to figure out the best way to get out of town without some fucktard hitting me. You should see these retards try to drive around out there.
But we like their home equity/cash deals in spite of their lack of snow-driving skills.
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I’ve been deep into the woods with @dflea in the isis mobile. Walking out would have sucked.dflea said:You know why they don't build computers in the UK?
Couldn't figure out a way to make them leak oil.
I was at a Sonics game once, and they brought a pair of new Harleys out to center court at the half. When they cleared the floor for the second half of the game, they had to send a dude with a spray bottle and towel out there to clean up the oil one of them leaked.
If a vehicle isn't reliable, it should just be driven off a cliff. That's why people stroke themselves over Japanese rigs. I've had my Tacoma for almost 20 years and 370k miles and it's left me stranded zero times - which just happens to be the acceptable amount of times. That's a big selling point for me.
We got a foot of snow last night, so I'm going to go out and do some 4x4 driving. Just trying to figure out the best way to get out of town without some fucktard hitting me. You should see these retards try to drive around out there. -
Hey, go fuck yourself.BearsWiin said:Jeep love is like Harley love
Willing to buy inferior machinery because branding
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Hey now @PurpleThrobber I’m a so cal kid who can outdrive any of you N. Idaho fucks in the snow.PurpleThrobber said:
Here in N. Idaho, we call them "the fucktards from W. Washington and California overpaying for real estate".dflea said:You know why they don't build computers in the UK?
Couldn't figure out a way to make them leak oil.
I was at a Sonics game once, and they brought a pair of new Harleys out to center court at the half. When they cleared the floor for the second half of the game, they had to send a dude with a spray bottle and towel out there to clean up the oil one of them leaked.
If a vehicle isn't reliable, it should just be driven off a cliff. That's why people stroke themselves over Japanese rigs. I've had my Tacoma for almost 20 years and 370k miles and it's left me stranded zero times - which just happens to be the acceptable amount of times. That's a big selling point for me.
We got a foot of snow last night, so I'm going to go out and do some 4x4 driving. Just trying to figure out the best way to get out of town without some fucktard hitting me. You should see these retards try to drive around out there.
But we like their home equity/cash deals in spite of their lack of snow-driving skills. -
@sway, Toyota out-Jeeped Jeep (as far as go-anywhere rock crawling/etc.) for two decades. Just find any old 22R-equipped 4x4 pickup, lift, knobby tires, go.
As for Harley, agree and disagree. Up until recently, their bikes were poorly built machines of poor design. Now they're excellently built machines... of poor design.
Even that latter part isn't necessarily true with the newest Milwaukee Eight based bikes. My dad has one, and I was shocked that it actually handles like a real motorcycle (not falling into turns, etc.), and it didn't numb my hands and feet from vibration over the short test ride. Still weighs 800 pounds and made shit for power, but whatever. With the redesign, it could be argued that Harley makes the best cruiser on the market, so no longer inferior. The problem is that they make cruisers, period. Being the best designer/manufacturer of horse-drawn carriages in 2020 doesn't get you far, and, although every manufacturer of large displacement two-wheeled transport has been taking it in the shorts over the last few years, Harley Davidson is way worse off than the rest. Their core boomer market is dying off, and it's pretty grim for the company's future prospects unless they do something drastically different. Sales keep decreasing 13% per year, and they'll be Moto Morini or Binelli in a decade.
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