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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,209 Founders Club

    Been hearing this shit for 30 years.

    We are no more divided than we were 30-40 years ago

    The political left and right have been waging this war for decades and they do it to stay in power. They make it left versus right so we can remain a two party system and they retain power as a result.

    We need to be issue based and not party based in our decision making and when it comes to voting.

    The media also promotes the minority views as being the majority for ratings purposes. They feast off the extremist actions and put them in the spotlight. As a result, the uneducated and the foreigner often buy into the notion that the extremists are the norm. The average everyday American knows this isn’t true but the average person isn’t running around causing chaos , they are at work or raising a family or doing normal everyday things

    I would argue that we are more united today than we have been in decades. Despite all the obstacles and the media promoting fear and division for ratings we still are moving forward.

    So much pessimism. Optimism is heartbeat of the healthy

    We are vastly more divided than 30 years ago. People back then weren't getting fired en masse for expressing their opinions.

    28 years ago I gave a speech in speech class about how my beliefs were shifting from "sometimes liberal" to "conservative". And while I'm sure some students didn't like it, there was no severe blowback or reprimand from the teacher.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,209 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    Fuck your unity.

    you had to edit that?
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    Been hearing this shit for 30 years.

    We are no more divided than we were 30-40 years ago

    The political left and right have been waging this war for decades and they do it to stay in power. They make it left versus right so we can remain a two party system and they retain power as a result.

    We need to be issue based and not party based in our decision making and when it comes to voting.

    The media also promotes the minority views as being the majority for ratings purposes. They feast off the extremist actions and put them in the spotlight. As a result, the uneducated and the foreigner often buy into the notion that the extremists are the norm. The average everyday American knows this isn’t true but the average person isn’t running around causing chaos , they are at work or raising a family or doing normal everyday things

    I would argue that we are more united today than we have been in decades. Despite all the obstacles and the media promoting fear and division for ratings we still are moving forward.

    So much pessimism. Optimism is heartbeat of the healthy

    We are vastly more divided than 30 years ago. People back then weren't getting fired en masse for expressing their opinions.

    28 years ago I gave a speech in speech class about how my beliefs were shifting from "sometimes liberal" to "conservative". And while I'm sure some students didn't like it, there was no severe blowback or reprimand from the teacher.
    Ronnie embarrassed the bomb throwers changing the public discourse for a time. It took a few years for democrats to level off, but they had no choice as Reagan built widespread support with his sense of humor, affability, incredible communication skills and primarily libertarian message, a key element of true conservatism. If you had given that speech 35 years ago, you would have been in the company of much of your class. Seattle was different then too, not yet dominated by the insurgence of far left wing culture from northern California. It was still more or less a blue collar union democrat town, many with conservative values and reserved enough to be truly tolerant. No more. The intolerant left have taken over, turned the place into a haven for the drug addicted homeless and a monochromatic pseudo-intellectual cesspool hellbent on destroying history, tradition and anyone who dares not think like them. Personally, though I still visit regularly, I can't imagine ever living there again. @YellowSnow did the right thing, cash in and punch out to save his kids.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Kaepsknee said:

    dflea said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.

    You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.

    Nobody with a brain is supportive of what happened on January 6th ... hope that helps
    Anyone that claimed the election was stolen is supportive of it.
    There is a big difference in saying that there’s some significant election reform that needs to take place (and btw it benefits both parties) and saying the election has been stolen.

    The reality is that if there’s doubt that something has not been on the up and up that’s an indictment on our existing process. Close the loop on conspiracy theories.
    Why would you need significant election reform unless there was significant fraud?
    Fishstick needs to go back to the finance board where He actually doesn’t embarrass himself.
    Oh look - another fucking retard who can't answer why you need to reform the system without widespread fraud.

    Don't worry - I know you want to push reforms just because you're a whiny fucking cunt and Trump ball gargler.

    Go fuck yourself bitch.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited January 2021
    doogie said:

    DJDuck said:

    To say the process was followed is very naive. Just for an example governors and Secretaries of State in many states changed the election law which in every case is not legal. Only the state legislatures can change the election laws in each of these states. I could go on but this proves your claim that “the process was followed” is just not true.

    Creepy Joe can kiss my ass. He and his crime family are Grifters. I am too old to actively do much but my donations will help to fight his phony cheating presidency.

    Fuck off dipshit.

    You don’t have a fucking clue.

    Go back to educk
    You are clueless I gave just one irrefutable example of election fraud and you can’t even acknowledge it. Your only response is to attack me. Basically you were wrong because you fail in your ability to analyze things before you open your mouth and spew things that are patently untrue.

    ABSOLUTE FIRE! Rand Paul DESTROYS Leftist Crank George Stephanopoulos on BIG LIE — That There Was No Fraud in Election (VIDEO)



    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/absolute-fire-rand-paul-absolutely-destroys-leftist-crank-george-stephanopolous-big-lie-no-fraud-election-video/
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,640 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2021
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1

    This is the demonrats answer. Register 16 year olds, nationwide same day registration, nationwide mail in, felons voting, no signature matching, no complete SS number, no ID, no proof of citizenship and the list goes on. BidenBros will cheer being commies.

    If this passes we are well and truly fucked.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited January 2021
    There is mo
    Sledog said:

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1

    This is the demonrats answer. Register 16 year olds, nationwide same day registration, nationwide mail in, felons voting, no signature matching, no complete SS number, no ID, no proof of citizenship and the list goes on. BidenBros will cheer being commies.

    If this passes we are well and truly fucked.

    Yes, there is more irrefutable evidence that is ignored by our clueless friend. Secretaries of State broke the law by dictating without legislative approval that signatures didn’t have to match in some states and ballots could be counted if they arrived after Election Day without any postmark date. But hey.................THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF FRAUD. 😂😂😂😂

    But but “THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,673 Founders Club
    Guys democracy won
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183



    I’m the cultist.

    You do realize that the motivation for most of these kind of memes is to trigger snowflakes like yourself.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Tequilla said:

    I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.

    You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.

    Nobody with a brain is supportive of what happened on January 6th ... hope that helps
    Anyone that claimed the election was stolen is supportive of it.
    Did the changing of the voting laws in may states have any impact on the election?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    DJDuck said:

    doogie said:

    I’m not going to War with you. I’m not alone. Plan accordingly.

    And unless you are a Constitutional Scholar, Fuck Off.

    Process was followed and Biden won. Don’t like it? Enter the fucking game. Volunteer to be an election official



    “There were several states where the law was changed by Secretaries of State which is clearly unconstitutional.”

    George Stephanopoulos is a Democrat hack and a liar posing as a journalist.
    That was obvious from the first day he was hired. The fact that he was hired by ABC and is treated like any kind of serious journalist just shows how corrupt our media is. But don't worry, next election cycle the GOP will agree to let him be a moderator for one of their debates.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Biden is a secular religious leader.


    What the fuck??
    Lol it’s satire.

    DJDuck said:

    doogie said:

    DJDuck said:

    To say the process was followed is very naive. Just for an example governors and Secretaries of State in many states changed the election law which in every case is not legal. Only the state legislatures can change the election laws in each of these states. I could go on but this proves your claim that “the process was followed” is just not true.

    Creepy Joe can kiss my ass. He and his crime family are Grifters. I am too old to actively do much but my donations will help to fight his phony cheating presidency.

    Fuck off dipshit.

    You don’t have a fucking clue.

    Go back to educk
    You are clueless I gave just one irrefutable example of election fraud and you can’t even acknowledge it. Your only response is to attack me. Basically you were wrong because you fail in your ability to analyze things before you open your mouth and spew things that are patently untrue.

    ABSOLUTE FIRE! Rand Paul DESTROYS Leftist Crank George Stephanopoulos on BIG LIE — That There Was No Fraud in Election (VIDEO)



    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/absolute-fire-rand-paul-absolutely-destroys-leftist-crank-george-stephanopolous-big-lie-no-fraud-election-video/
    Unity!!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1116477001

    May 6, 2019 — "You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," Hillary Clinton said Saturday.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    Sledog said:


    Deserves @PurpleThrobber ‘s magic hit all buttons at once button. Yikes. That’s an imagine I’d rather unsee, but sophomorically funny at the same time.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Senate needs to Impeach all Trump voters so that only Proper voters can vote in future elections
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Kaepsknee said:

    Fuck your unity.

    you had to edit that?
    I did. What I poasted was announced to be up for a few minutes and then edited.

    I’ve been doxxed and in an effort to cancel from what I’ve poasted on here.

    So once again. Fuck unity.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,007
    doogie said:

    Senate needs to Impeach all Trump voters so that only Proper voters can vote in future elections

    Maybe tattoo a gold star on their foreheads or some such thing...

  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited January 2021
    Well the latest from Mr. Unity, creepy Joe ain’t gonna do it.

    Breaking ‘Unity’ Pledge, Joe Biden Backs Trump Impeachment Trial

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/25/breaking-unity-pledge-joe-biden-backs-trump-impeachment-trial/
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,007
    DJDuck said:

    Well the latest from Mr. Unity, creepy Joe ain’t gonna do it.

    Breaking ‘Unity’ Pledge, Joe Biden Backs Trump Impeachment Trial

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/25/breaking-unity-pledge-joe-biden-backs-trump-impeachment-trial/

    These guys are fucking idiots. After the shitshow of the Kavanaugh confirmation and the clownshow theater of Impeachment v1.0, the public is on to the bullshit political mic grab of these fucks. Just provides more sound bites when they get primary'd in a couple years.

    They'd be way better off building an actual prosecution and trial against the Biden Trump crime family for all these alleged criminal activities.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    DJDuck said:

    Well the latest from Mr. Unity, creepy Joe ain’t gonna do it.

    Breaking ‘Unity’ Pledge, Joe Biden Backs Trump Impeachment Trial

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/25/breaking-unity-pledge-joe-biden-backs-trump-impeachment-trial/

    Biden's "unity" pledge was both a cute soundbite and a dog whistle to those who are of like mind. It was a call to democrats to unify behind their narrative and other favorite dog whistle, fighting "threats to our democracy" so they can destroy all dissent and grab one party rule for generations to come. What we're seeing now is what was "supposed" to happen in 2017. Every single action from stealing the election to a massive increase in cancel culture to the 30+ dictatorial executive orders has been guided by the same people with the same goal.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,703 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Fuck your unity.

    you had to edit that?
    I did. What I poasted was announced to be up for a few minutes and then edited.

    I’ve been doxxed and in an effort to cancel from what I’ve poasted on here.

    So once again. Fuck unity.
    More info please
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Fwiw, I’ve had posts edited a couple of times over the past six months or so, as well. I let it roll like water off a Ducks back.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,148 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2021

    This may trigger guffaws given that it's coming from the owner/manager of Hardcore Husky and The Tug Tavern.

    But seriously, I don't see any healthy discourse going on anywhere. I see few attempts to find solutions.

    It takes both sides having some good faith and trust to make this happen.

    But I certainly don't trust the Democrat party. The Democrats don't trust the conservatives or GOP.

    It is clear that Biden is going to fan the flames and make relations worse and the country more divided.

    But off the top of my head, I see three things that need to take place to prevent this nation spiraling into eventual civil war.

    1. The mainstream media needs to rot away, and a new media rooted in integrity needs to come to the fore.
    2. Decent, moderate liberals, aka "classic liberals", need to take back their party from Antifa/BLM/Marxists.
    3. Conservatives need to keep their resentment in check, or in time they're going to become just like the people they hate/distrust


    Right now I'm not confident in any of the three happening.

    Civil war and a split into two nations.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,209 Founders Club
    doogie said:

    Fwiw, I’ve had posts edited a couple of times over the past six months or so, as well. I let it roll like water off a Ducks back.

    Such as?

    Were they pornographic in nature?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,209 Founders Club
    Sledog said:


    This is awful and undermines credible arguments you may make.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    doogie said:

    Fwiw, I’ve had posts edited a couple of times over the past six months or so, as well. I let it roll like water off a Ducks back.

    Respect da bidness.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,576 Standard Supporter
    Not in the middle of the store