How do we unite as a country?
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ThisRaceBannon said:When did it become a crime to question an election? Quite common really
The democrats reaction isn't. They seem overly defensive. And guilty -
Durrrrdflea said:
Why would you need significant election reform unless there was significant fraud?Tequilla said:
There is a big difference in saying that there’s some significant election reform that needs to take place (and btw it benefits both parties) and saying the election has been stolen.TheKobeStopper said:
Anyone that claimed the election was stolen is supportive of it.Tequilla said:
Nobody with a brain is supportive of what happened on January 6th ... hope that helpsTheKobeStopper said:I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.
You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.
The reality is that if there’s doubt that something has not been on the up and up that’s an indictment on our existing process. Close the loop on conspiracy theories.
Stick to posting your gay fantasies, Midget. -
It was their Reichstag Fire. Add to that, their collusion with big tech in installing the digital equivalent of the Volksempfänger's, and they're partying like it's 1933.Bob_C said:
The reality that no one will admit is that the left loved every second of Jan 6th. They got their pretext for what they were going to do anyways.TheKobeStopper said:
Anyone that claimed the election was stolen is supportive of it.Tequilla said:
Nobody with a brain is supportive of what happened on January 6th ... hope that helpsTheKobeStopper said:I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.
You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.
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That’s why I said things like this need to be bipartisanSwisherSweetboy said:
I read that article and nothing about bi-partisanship really stood out. It's more like the Dems saying "let's take what worked well in the states we successfully cheated in, and make that the federal standard."Tequilla said:I welcome standardization of election policies and think that it’s highly important that something like this is done on a bi-partisan standpoint
Anyone wonder why voting went so smoothly in all states EXCEPT the battleground states that Trump HAD to win? Stops in counting, counting overnight, counting later, cardboard put up over windows, watchers kicked out, blah blah. Only in the battleground states.
And make no mistake, the Jan 6 event was not a happy coincidence for the Democrats - that protest, the subsequent riot, and the manufactured outrage was game-planned out long before it happened.
I agree with you that a lot of work needs to be done to make it bipartisan
What I’m seeing a lot of at this point is a lot of posturing on both sides -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/mcconnell-blocks-bills-election-security-heels-mueller-warnings/story?id=64569009
This is what bipartisan election security looks like.
Stop electing people that hate the government and want it to fail is my advice. -
Big claim to make without an exampleTheKobeStopper said:
Regardless of how far right you are, you give a ridiculous amount of leeway to these nutters.Tequilla said:
I’m not right wing ...TheKobeStopper said:
It’s nice that because you’re right wing you give the far right loons plenty of rope but they’re just using it to hang themselves. Claiming the US is a banana republic is not saying we need some reform.Tequilla said:
There is a big difference in saying that there’s some significant election reform that needs to take place (and btw it benefits both parties) and saying the election has been stolen.TheKobeStopper said:
Anyone that claimed the election was stolen is supportive of it.Tequilla said:
Nobody with a brain is supportive of what happened on January 6th ... hope that helpsTheKobeStopper said:I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.
You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.
The reality is that if there’s doubt that something has not been on the up and up that’s an indictment on our existing process. Close the loop on conspiracy theories.
I lean right
My comments would be the same regardless of left/right
I’m highly skeptical of both sides and think both are very corrupt at this point
Probably the most that can be said about leeway that I give is that I’m patient and try to rely on facts and evidence before concluding judgment just off the cuff or emotion -
Answer the fucking question, bitch!NorthwestFresh said:
Durrrrdflea said:
Why would you need significant election reform unless there was significant fraud?Tequilla said:
There is a big difference in saying that there’s some significant election reform that needs to take place (and btw it benefits both parties) and saying the election has been stolen.TheKobeStopper said:
Anyone that claimed the election was stolen is supportive of it.Tequilla said:
Nobody with a brain is supportive of what happened on January 6th ... hope that helpsTheKobeStopper said:I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.
You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.
The reality is that if there’s doubt that something has not been on the up and up that’s an indictment on our existing process. Close the loop on conspiracy theories.
Stick to posting your gay fantasies, Midget.
No fraud, no need for changes. It's so simple even a fucking retard like you can get it.
I get it. Losers always want to change the rules. Bama and Clemson don't think the CFP is broken. -
No such thing as bipartisan anymore.Tequilla said:
That’s why I said things like this need to be bipartisanSwisherSweetboy said:
I read that article and nothing about bi-partisanship really stood out. It's more like the Dems saying "let's take what worked well in the states we successfully cheated in, and make that the federal standard."Tequilla said:I welcome standardization of election policies and think that it’s highly important that something like this is done on a bi-partisan standpoint
Anyone wonder why voting went so smoothly in all states EXCEPT the battleground states that Trump HAD to win? Stops in counting, counting overnight, counting later, cardboard put up over windows, watchers kicked out, blah blah. Only in the battleground states.
And make no mistake, the Jan 6 event was not a happy coincidence for the Democrats - that protest, the subsequent riot, and the manufactured outrage was game-planned out long before it happened.
I agree with you that a lot of work needs to be done to make it bipartisan
What I’m seeing a lot of at this point is a lot of posturing on both sides -
1) One of the biggest challenges in politics is bills that have a certain topic manner but then tons of pork built in that are trying get things that would never get approved otherwise ... the devil is always in the detailsTheKobeStopper said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/mcconnell-blocks-bills-election-security-heels-mueller-warnings/story?id=64569009
This is what bipartisan election security looks like.
Stop electing people that hate the government and want it to fail is my advice.
2) The issues/challenges in the 2020 election were exasperated in many states due to COVID
The reality is that leadership on both sides need to focus on getting shit done vs political posturing points to leverage in the game of gotcha at a future date -
You didn’t ask me a question, Tiny Clam Guy.dflea said:
Answer the fucking question, bitch!NorthwestFresh said:
Durrrrdflea said:
Why would you need significant election reform unless there was significant fraud?Tequilla said:
There is a big difference in saying that there’s some significant election reform that needs to take place (and btw it benefits both parties) and saying the election has been stolen.TheKobeStopper said:
Anyone that claimed the election was stolen is supportive of it.Tequilla said:
Nobody with a brain is supportive of what happened on January 6th ... hope that helpsTheKobeStopper said:I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.
You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.
The reality is that if there’s doubt that something has not been on the up and up that’s an indictment on our existing process. Close the loop on conspiracy theories.
Stick to posting your gay fantasies, Midget.
No fraud, no need for changes. It's so simple even a fucking retard like you can get it.
I get it. Losers always want to change the rules. Bama and Clemson don't think the CFP is broken. -
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this thread doesn't deliver.
very little solutions and lots of finger pointing.
want unity
Set term limits on the house and the senate
Turn your TV's off or quit watching the news
Subscribe to a left and a right news paper - preferably the ones with comics
Disconnect internet social media
GTFO of the tug
Quit whining
Get a sense of humor
Do all of those things or create a sink hole in the general vicinity of Washington, DC -
A world could exist where sense of humor is most important on that list.LebamDawg said:this thread doesn't deliver.
very little solutions and lots of finger pointing.
want unity
Set term limits on the house and the senate
Turn your TV's off or quit watching the news
Subscribe to a left and a right news paper - preferably the ones with comics
Disconnect internet social media
GTFO of the tug
Quit whining
Get a sense of humor
Do all of those things or create a sink hole in the general vicinity of Washington, DC -
Overturning Citizens Divided
allowing unions and rebuilding the middle class
build the fucking wall, and start actually punishing employers who employ illegals knowlingly. That means Wal mart, Tyson, and some of you fags who pay your Mexican maid under the table
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, or something similar. It was in place for 40 years. There's no need to "dig deeper." It worked.
That probably solves over half of it right there -
I’d build the wall myself to overturn Citizens United.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Overturning Citizens Divided
allowing unions and rebuilding the middle class
build the fucking wall, and start actually punishing employers who employ illegals knowlingly. That means Wal mart, Tyson, and some of you fags who pay your Mexican maid under the table
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, or something similar. It was in place for 40 years. There's no need to "dig deeper." It worked.
That probably solves over half of it right there -
Been hearing this shit for 30 years.
We are no more divided than we were 30-40 years ago
The political left and right have been waging this war for decades and they do it to stay in power. They make it left versus right so we can remain a two party system and they retain power as a result.
We need to be issue based and not party based in our decision making and when it comes to voting.
The media also promotes the minority views as being the majority for ratings purposes. They feast off the extremist actions and put them in the spotlight. As a result, the uneducated and the foreigner often buy into the notion that the extremists are the norm. The average everyday American knows this isn’t true but the average person isn’t running around causing chaos , they are at work or raising a family or doing normal everyday things
I would argue that we are more united today than we have been in decades. Despite all the obstacles and the media promoting fear and division for ratings we still are moving forward.
So much pessimism. Optimism is heartbeat of the healthy -
we do need about 12 political parties - so one's views can align closer to a party.
all without professional politicians. -
Do you feel the same way about public and private unions being able to donate to politicians?TheKobeStopper said:
I’d build the wall myself to overturn Citizens United.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Overturning Citizens Divided
allowing unions and rebuilding the middle class
build the fucking wall, and start actually punishing employers who employ illegals knowlingly. That means Wal mart, Tyson, and some of you fags who pay your Mexican maid under the table
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, or something similar. It was in place for 40 years. There's no need to "dig deeper." It worked.
That probably solves over half of it right there -
I see the far left dragging Democrats into an all out assault on
Unity comes when the elder liberals teach children like you a little bit about what this country and its greatest institutions were built upon, because, while I disagree with their politics, at least they have some learned history to fall back on.TheKobeStopper said:I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.
You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.
HTH -
Biden is a secular religious leader.
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No, not the same. I think the idea that a group, like say a nurses union, can collectively influence a politician is much less harmful than the way an individual can. But ideally I think we should have nationally funded elections.NorthwestFresh said:
Do you feel the same way about public and private unions being able to donate to politicians?TheKobeStopper said:
I’d build the wall myself to overturn Citizens United.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Overturning Citizens Divided
allowing unions and rebuilding the middle class
build the fucking wall, and start actually punishing employers who employ illegals knowlingly. That means Wal mart, Tyson, and some of you fags who pay your Mexican maid under the table
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, or something similar. It was in place for 40 years. There's no need to "dig deeper." It worked.
That probably solves over half of it right there -
What the fuck??NorthwestFresh said:Biden is a secular religious leader.
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Four years of unprofessional politicians was quite enough for me.LebamDawg said:we do need about 12 political parties - so one's views can align closer to a party.
all without professional politicians. -
Lol it’s satire.EsophagealFeces said:
What the fuck??NorthwestFresh said:Biden is a secular religious leader.
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Fuck your unity.
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Unite the coup is gonna happen again! -
Fishstick needs to go back to the finance board where He actually doesn’t embarrass himself.dflea said:
Why would you need significant election reform unless there was significant fraud?Tequilla said:
There is a big difference in saying that there’s some significant election reform that needs to take place (and btw it benefits both parties) and saying the election has been stolen.TheKobeStopper said:
Anyone that claimed the election was stolen is supportive of it.Tequilla said:
Nobody with a brain is supportive of what happened on January 6th ... hope that helpsTheKobeStopper said:I’m hopeful for some kind of unity but it won’t be with you guys. The left proved it was willing to compromise by helping vote in Biden, you guys proved what you were about on January 6th.
You guys think Joe Biden is a Marxist and that Trump was the greatest president ever. We live in different realities and my guess is you can’t climb back up the far right cliff you’ve fallen off.
The reality is that if there’s doubt that something has not been on the up and up that’s an indictment on our existing process. Close the loop on conspiracy theories. -
Nothing true can stop himTheKobeStopper said:
I’m the cultist. -
The fact that it is January 25th, the election was three months ago, and YouTube still has official statements under conservative videos proclaiming "Joe Biden is the President of the United States", is incredibly over-defensive.RaceBannon said:When did it become a crime to question an election? Quite common really
The democrats reaction isn't. They seem overly defensive. And guilty -
Run on this platform and you have my vote podLebamDawg said:this thread doesn't deliver.
very little solutions and lots of finger pointing.
want unity
Set term limits on the house and the senate
Turn your TV's off or quit watching the news
Subscribe to a left and a right news paper - preferably the ones with comics
Disconnect internet social media
GTFO of the tug
Quit whining
Get a sense of humor
Do all of those things or create a sink hole in the general vicinity of Washington, DC
