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Academis questions for Creep

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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,971 Founders Club

    Sage advice, but.a tall order. I wonder ... how many of us actually did this? Did you?
    It's what I've tried to demand of my kids because it's what I was told and yes it worked for me. But I wake up every day wondering how I'm going to win. I'm in sales and eventually started my own company. It's been a great run and now all I do is worry about my kids. Using fear and demanding excellence really hasn't worked like I hoped but, who knows, maybe one day my hardass approach will pay off for them. It's a brutal world and unless you're willing to work harder than 95 out of 100 people you really can't expect to dominate.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 22,457
    edited January 2021

    Its really interesting to me that the IT field is almost entirely dudes yet I believe the amount of women in the sciences hasn't actually changed. They just go into medicine.

    I cant really think of any real reason it should be guys over girls in the tech stuff. Uncle Bob's talk on the future of programming was interesting because apparently until the mid to late 80s it was about 50 50
    My middle child is in about the middle of her PhD program in biology--there's some longer name than "biology" for her area of study, but I was a liberal arts guy without a clue about the nuance. At least in her field and where she's been, I don't see a wide gender gap. But we attended a lot of "STEM for girls" programs when she was younger. There was definitely an emphasis to get girls to pursue STEM majors.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,341
    HHusky said:

    My middle child is in about the middle of her PhD program in biology--there's some longer name than "biology" for her area of study, but I was a liberal arts guy without a clue about the nuance. At least in her field and where she's been, I don't see a wide gender gap. But we attended a lot of "STEM for girls" programs when she was younger. There was definitely an emphasis to get girls to pursue STEM majors.
    I'm saying that there arent girls in math and engineering. They go into medical, biology, etc.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 22,457

    I'm saying that there arent girls in math and engineering. They go into medical, biology, etc.
    Not math and engineering as often, I agree.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    I'm saying that there arent girls in math and engineering. They go into medical, biology, etc.
    My older daughter is going to be a freshman at UA in Tucson this fall. Full ride academic scholarship for 4 years as long as she keeps a 3.5 so we? only have to pay room and board. She’ll be in pre-Med/Biology. Could have gone to more prestigious schools but she said she’d rather be one of the smarter ones in her program and also get out of the Portland rain. Basically admitted to being academically lazy but it’s her choice. She got a 34 composite on her ACT and straight As while in HS and is taking all college credit course now online so can’t really complain.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 22,457
    edited January 2021

    My older daughter is going to be a freshman at UA in Tucson this fall. Full ride academic scholarship for 4 years as long as she keeps a 3.5 so we? only have to pay room and board. She’ll be in pre-Med/Biology. Could have gone to more prestigious schools but she said she’d rather be one of the smarter ones in her program and also get out of the Portland rain. Basically admitted to being academically lazy but it’s her choice. She got a 34 composite on her ACT and straight As while in HS and is taking all college credit course now online so can’t really complain.
    It's just her undergraduate degree. That's the right move. For kids who have good credentials who are willing to go out-of-state, schools are often willing to do a lot to build their geographic profiles. Congrats!

    My oldest got that exact same offer at Pitt, but Pitt didn't offer a Bachelors of Music degree, so we didn't take advantage of it. If he hadn't zeroed in on such a specific degree, it would have been an easy decision.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    It's just her undergraduate degree. That's the right move. For kids who have good credentials who are willing to go out-of-state, schools are often willing to do a lot to build their geographic profiles. Congrats!

    My oldest got that exact same offer at Pitt, but Pitt didn't offer a Bachelors of Music degree.
    That was one of the points we all agreed on. If she goes to med school or graduate school, that’s where the school will matter more. In the meantime, getting a PAC-12 degree mostly paid for while playing in the sun all year sounds pretty good to her after being in her room taking classes since last March. Most of her good friends are also going out of state, which seems odd to me during a pandemic but maybe they are all just that sick of us parents after a year of limited outside the house options.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Sage advice, but.a tall order. I wonder ... how many of us actually did this? Did you?
    Less that 1%
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,341

    My older daughter is going to be a freshman at UA in Tucson this fall. Full ride academic scholarship for 4 years as long as she keeps a 3.5 so we? only have to pay room and board. She’ll be in pre-Med/Biology. Could have gone to more prestigious schools but she said she’d rather be one of the smarter ones in her program and also get out of the Portland rain. Basically admitted to being academically lazy but it’s her choice. She got a 34 composite on her ACT and straight As while in HS and is taking all college credit course now online so can’t really complain.
    I got a super good deal (including room and board plus some spending money - didnt actually need to work until I hit 21 and booze got expensive) so its pretty great. If I do an msc I'll maybe care where it is. Don't think I'd do an mba.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,971 Founders Club
    So my son with a medium case of dyslexia, has been getting into some ok colleges. I didn't think his grades were good enough to get into many schools but I was wrong. I guess he wrote an amazing essay on his struggles with dyslexia which must be making a difference. What is your advice between Alabama, Ol Miss, Arizona and St Mary's (Moraga Ca)? He's waiting to hear from Oregon (sacrilege), ASU and one or two others.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 46,133 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    So my son with a medium case of dyslexia, has been getting into some ok colleges. I didn't think his grades were good enough to get into many schools but I was wrong. I guess he wrote an amazing essay on his struggles with dyslexia which must be making a difference. What is your advice between Alabama, Ol Miss, Arizona and St Mary's (Moraga Ca)? He's waiting to hear from Oregon (sacrilege), ASU and one or two others.

    When in doubt, hot chicks are always the tie breaker.

    Always.

  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,971 Founders Club
    Wow...thank you so much!
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    HHusky said:


    Re: grad school (by contrast to professional schools like Law or Medicine)

    Get into a funded PhD program.

    My youngest was just advised, correctly I think, that she should not consider grad school except as a funded PhD. Basically, get paid to research what interests you while looking at the career prospects. You aren't making big money, but you're not digging a deep hole for your credential either.

    I note that my middle one has been almost entirely self-supporting in her program. Same experience for one of my nephews.
    W/out question.

    A PhD really sets you apart. They don't just hand those things out. But you're still in the situation where there are more and less lucrative things to do with it, and if you had to pay for 5 to 7 years of more school, the debt would be so big that your only option would be to whore out to the highest bidder.

    My daughter was unsure about PhD, and her school doesn't offer a terminal masters in the PhD program if you want to opt out, so she is in the MS program for now, and even that was almost entirely paid for, thought it's less common.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,341
    RoadTrip said:

    Wow...thank you so much!

    But he's for sure leaving college as a virgin. So there's that tradeoff.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807

    But he's for sure leaving college as a virgin. So there's that tradeoff.
    The odds he's a virgin now are slim to none. People tend to lose it in high school.
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