As a fellow Virginia resident, unless she's getting into McIntire, I agree that UW is probably better for the quant-ish stuff.
For lowly liberal arts degrees, UVA or William and Mary are definitely better. UW is a relatively unknown quantity out here.
Penn State is the ASU of the Northeast.
Mostly true. If "lowly liberal arts degrees" include physics, psychology, sociology and math (just off the top of my head), and a smattering of other stuff, UW is actually better than UVa, and I'd expect it's better than W&M across the board ... at least in terms of department rankings, which is driven by research; something with which W&M can't compete with UW.
UVa is going to have the prestige edge amongst the snooty smarty crowds, and it's better than UW in several/some things; and it's overall more selective and harder to get into than UW. So the Wall Street people will like it more, as just one example of how that plays out.
Comp. Sci. or anything in the health sciences and UW is clearly better school. You're right that not everybody will know that, but at that level uninformed you shouldn't care.
Agree with all of this, but to 99% of the world a UVA degree is an elite degree. UW is not. I say this as a UW grad (undergrad). UVA, whether deserved or not, is the east coast Berkeley (whether deserved or not). But maybe that is what you were saying anyway. English isn't my first language. And neither is Cuban.
We speak Cuban here engin. I thought we? were clear at the time of the transfer of power.
Agreed; UVa is the Berkeley and UNC Chapel Hill is the UCLA. The east coast doesn't have a lot of great public universities outside of the academies, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. The midwest and west are where that game is played best. Florida has become a very solid public U, as has Georgia. But they would suffer the same "ok" reputation rep as UW. UVa and UNC are acceptable to the academis elites. As far as publics, Cal is the better school, followed somewhat closely by Michigan, just IMO.
Georgia Tech would like a word. To me GaTech is the 2nd best east coast public after UVa, and the best at anything science or quantitative.
Penn State was ranked in the 60s last I recall. It's not awful. Maryland is.... ok. But I do agree with the premise, for as many people live up in the Northeast corridor there are precious few great public universities for them.
As a fellow Virginia resident, unless she's getting into McIntire, I agree that UW is probably better for the quant-ish stuff.
For lowly liberal arts degrees, UVA or William and Mary are definitely better. UW is a relatively unknown quantity out here.
Penn State is the ASU of the Northeast.
Mostly true. If "lowly liberal arts degrees" include physics, psychology, sociology and math (just off the top of my head), and a smattering of other stuff, UW is actually better than UVa, and I'd expect it's better than W&M across the board ... at least in terms of department rankings, which is driven by research; something with which W&M can't compete with UW.
UVa is going to have the prestige edge amongst the snooty smarty crowds, and it's better than UW in several/some things; and it's overall more selective and harder to get into than UW. So the Wall Street people will like it more, as just one example of how that plays out.
Comp. Sci. or anything in the health sciences and UW is clearly better school. You're right that not everybody will know that, but at that level uninformed you shouldn't care.
Agree with all of this, but to 99% of the world a UVA degree is an elite degree. UW is not. I say this as a UW grad (undergrad). UVA, whether deserved or not, is the east coast Berkeley (whether deserved or not). But maybe that is what you were saying anyway. English isn't my first language. And neither is Cuban.
We speak Cuban here engin. I thought we? were clear at the time of the transfer of power.
Agreed; UVa is the Berkeley and UNC Chapel Hill is the UCLA. The east coast doesn't have a lot of great public universities outside of the academies, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. The midwest and west are where that game is played best. Florida has become a very solid public U, as has Georgia. But they would suffer the same "ok" reputation rep as UW. UVa and UNC are acceptable to the academis elites. As far as publics, Cal is the better school, followed somewhat closely by Michigan, just IMO.
When I lived out east everyone thought it was super weird I'd gone to a public school for high school and a state uni
I was like uhh I live within 2 miles of motorola microchip honeywell and intel. My school was like half asian.
I didn't realize that everyone had to go to private schools or you'll be stuck with the ghetto trash out east.
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Emory is a great school. So is Wake Forest. They're both tough to get into and have healthy endowments. Wake has a beautiful campus. Daughter had a full ride (as in, zero out of pocket, including room and board) to go to grad school there. Turned it down for Brown. FYFMFE.
As a fellow Virginia resident, unless she's getting into McIntire, I agree that UW is probably better for the quant-ish stuff.
For lowly liberal arts degrees, UVA or William and Mary are definitely better. UW is a relatively unknown quantity out here.
Penn State is the ASU of the Northeast.
Mostly true. If "lowly liberal arts degrees" include physics, psychology, sociology and math (just off the top of my head), and a smattering of other stuff, UW is actually better than UVa, and I'd expect it's better than W&M across the board ... at least in terms of department rankings, which is driven by research; something with which W&M can't compete with UW.
UVa is going to have the prestige edge amongst the snooty smarty crowds, and it's better than UW in several/some things; and it's overall more selective and harder to get into than UW. So the Wall Street people will like it more, as just one example of how that plays out.
Comp. Sci. or anything in the health sciences and UW is clearly better school. You're right that not everybody will know that, but at that level uninformed you shouldn't care.
Agree with all of this, but to 99% of the world a UVA degree is an elite degree. UW is not. I say this as a UW grad (undergrad). UVA, whether deserved or not, is the east coast Berkeley (whether deserved or not). But maybe that is what you were saying anyway. English isn't my first language. And neither is Cuban.
We speak Cuban here engin. I thought we? were clear at the time of the transfer of power.
Agreed; UVa is the Berkeley and UNC Chapel Hill is the UCLA. The east coast doesn't have a lot of great public universities outside of the academies, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. The midwest and west are where that game is played best. Florida has become a very solid public U, as has Georgia. But they would suffer the same "ok" reputation rep as UW. UVa and UNC are acceptable to the academis elites. As far as publics, Cal is the better school, followed somewhat closely by Michigan, just IMO.
Georgia Tech would like a word. To me GaTech is the 2nd best east coast public after UVa, and the best at anything science or quantitative.
Penn State was ranked in the 60s last I recall. It's not awful. Maryland is.... ok. But I do agree with the premise, for as many people live up in the Northeast corridor there are precious few great public universities for them.
I knew a Georgia Tech grad back in the late 70s. He was a nerd before nerds were cool. Really smart
UVa gets a lot of mileage out of Thomas Jefferson in my humble opinion from afar
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Not sure I'd agree with that; but there are a small handful of things I don't know.
As a fellow Virginia resident, unless she's getting into McIntire, I agree that UW is probably better for the quant-ish stuff.
For lowly liberal arts degrees, UVA or William and Mary are definitely better. UW is a relatively unknown quantity out here.
Penn State is the ASU of the Northeast.
Mostly true. If "lowly liberal arts degrees" include physics, psychology, sociology and math (just off the top of my head), and a smattering of other stuff, UW is actually better than UVa, and I'd expect it's better than W&M across the board ... at least in terms of department rankings, which is driven by research; something with which W&M can't compete with UW.
UVa is going to have the prestige edge amongst the snooty smarty crowds, and it's better than UW in several/some things; and it's overall more selective and harder to get into than UW. So the Wall Street people will like it more, as just one example of how that plays out.
Comp. Sci. or anything in the health sciences and UW is clearly better school. You're right that not everybody will know that, but at that level uninformed you shouldn't care.
Agree with all of this, but to 99% of the world a UVA degree is an elite degree. UW is not. I say this as a UW grad (undergrad). UVA, whether deserved or not, is the east coast Berkeley (whether deserved or not). But maybe that is what you were saying anyway. English isn't my first language. And neither is Cuban.
We speak Cuban here engin. I thought we? were clear at the time of the transfer of power.
Agreed; UVa is the Berkeley and UNC Chapel Hill is the UCLA. The east coast doesn't have a lot of great public universities outside of the academies, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. The midwest and west are where that game is played best. Florida has become a very solid public U, as has Georgia. But they would suffer the same "ok" reputation rep as UW. UVa and UNC are acceptable to the academis elites. As far as publics, Cal is the better school, followed somewhat closely by Michigan, just IMO.
When I lived out east everyone thought it was super weird I'd gone to a public school for high school and a state uni
I was like uhh I live within 2 miles of motorola microchip honeywell and intel. My school was like half asian.
I didn't realize that everyone had to go to private schools or you'll be stuck with the ghetto trash out east.
That is the general presumption. Private school is a bigger deal there, high school and college.
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Emory is a great school. So is Wake Forest. They're both tough to get into and have a healthy endowments. Wake has a beautiful campus. Daughter had a full ride (as in, zero out of pocket, including room and board) to go to grad school there. Turned it down for Brown. FYFMFE.
No i am not doubting the education. Just elite job placement. Emory probably places more kids into wall street than UVA and wake forest combined
As a fellow Virginia resident, unless she's getting into McIntire, I agree that UW is probably better for the quant-ish stuff.
For lowly liberal arts degrees, UVA or William and Mary are definitely better. UW is a relatively unknown quantity out here.
Penn State is the ASU of the Northeast.
Mostly true. If "lowly liberal arts degrees" include physics, psychology, sociology and math (just off the top of my head), and a smattering of other stuff, UW is actually better than UVa, and I'd expect it's better than W&M across the board ... at least in terms of department rankings, which is driven by research; something with which W&M can't compete with UW.
UVa is going to have the prestige edge amongst the snooty smarty crowds, and it's better than UW in several/some things; and it's overall more selective and harder to get into than UW. So the Wall Street people will like it more, as just one example of how that plays out.
Comp. Sci. or anything in the health sciences and UW is clearly better school. You're right that not everybody will know that, but at that level uninformed you shouldn't care.
Agree with all of this, but to 99% of the world a UVA degree is an elite degree. UW is not. I say this as a UW grad (undergrad). UVA, whether deserved or not, is the east coast Berkeley (whether deserved or not). But maybe that is what you were saying anyway. English isn't my first language. And neither is Cuban.
We speak Cuban here engin. I thought we? were clear at the time of the transfer of power.
Agreed; UVa is the Berkeley and UNC Chapel Hill is the UCLA. The east coast doesn't have a lot of great public universities outside of the academies, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. The midwest and west are where that game is played best. Florida has become a very solid public U, as has Georgia. But they would suffer the same "ok" reputation rep as UW. UVa and UNC are acceptable to the academis elites. As far as publics, Cal is the better school, followed somewhat closely by Michigan, just IMO.
Georgia Tech would like a word. To me GaTech is the 2nd best east coast public after UVa, and the best at anything science or quantitative.
Penn State was ranked in the 60s last I recall. It's not awful. Maryland is.... ok. But I do agree with the premise, for as many people live up in the Northeast corridor there are precious few great public universities for them.
GT is great at what it's great at: Engineering and related areas. It's a great school, but I'm not sure I'd put it over UNC Chapel Hill. At best along side it as equals.
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Emory is a great school. So is Wake Forest. They're both tough to get into and have a healthy endowments. Wake has a beautiful campus. Daughter had a full ride (as in, zero out of pocket, including room and board) to go to grad school there. Turned it down for Brown. FYFMFE.
No i am not doubting the education. Just elite job placement. Emory probably places more kids into wall street than UVA and wake forest combined
That would not surprise me. Emory is also just a "hot" school right now. Those things ebb and flow, but with the money they have I don't see them moving down any time soon.
As a fellow Virginia resident, unless she's getting into McIntire, I agree that UW is probably better for the quant-ish stuff.
For lowly liberal arts degrees, UVA or William and Mary are definitely better. UW is a relatively unknown quantity out here.
Penn State is the ASU of the Northeast.
Mostly true. If "lowly liberal arts degrees" include physics, psychology, sociology and math (just off the top of my head), and a smattering of other stuff, UW is actually better than UVa, and I'd expect it's better than W&M across the board ... at least in terms of department rankings, which is driven by research; something with which W&M can't compete with UW.
UVa is going to have the prestige edge amongst the snooty smarty crowds, and it's better than UW in several/some things; and it's overall more selective and harder to get into than UW. So the Wall Street people will like it more, as just one example of how that plays out.
Comp. Sci. or anything in the health sciences and UW is clearly better school. You're right that not everybody will know that, but at that level uninformed you shouldn't care.
Agree with all of this, but to 99% of the world a UVA degree is an elite degree. UW is not. I say this as a UW grad (undergrad). UVA, whether deserved or not, is the east coast Berkeley (whether deserved or not). But maybe that is what you were saying anyway. English isn't my first language. And neither is Cuban.
We speak Cuban here engin. I thought we? were clear at the time of the transfer of power.
Agreed; UVa is the Berkeley and UNC Chapel Hill is the UCLA. The east coast doesn't have a lot of great public universities outside of the academies, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. The midwest and west are where that game is played best. Florida has become a very solid public U, as has Georgia. But they would suffer the same "ok" reputation rep as UW. UVa and UNC are acceptable to the academis elites. As far as publics, Cal is the better school, followed somewhat closely by Michigan, just IMO.
Georgia Tech would like a word. To me GaTech is the 2nd best east coast public after UVa, and the best at anything science or quantitative.
Penn State was ranked in the 60s last I recall. It's not awful. Maryland is.... ok. But I do agree with the premise, for as many people live up in the Northeast corridor there are precious few great public universities for them.
GT is great at what it's great at: Engineering and related areas. It's a great school, but I'm not sure I'd put it over UNC Chapel Hill. At best along side it as equals.
Definitely would put unc over gt in every regard unless it is engineering. Vandy’s prestige is a fucking myth everyone talks about it just never seen any vandy grads that are notable. I would say only school in the south is legit as fuck is duke
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Emory is a great school. So is Wake Forest. They're both tough to get into and have healthy endowments. Wake has a beautiful campus. Daughter had a full ride (as in, zero out of pocket, including room and board) to go to grad school there. Turned it down for Brown. FYFMFE.
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Emory is a great school. So is Wake Forest. They're both tough to get into and have healthy endowments. Wake has a beautiful campus. Daughter had a full ride (as in, zero out of pocket, including room and board) to go to grad school there. Turned it down for Brown. FYFMFE.
Hard to pass up a brown education
A Brown education with with dad writing the checks.
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Emory is a great school. So is Wake Forest. They're both tough to get into and have healthy endowments. Wake has a beautiful campus. Daughter had a full ride (as in, zero out of pocket, including room and board) to go to grad school there. Turned it down for Brown. FYFMFE.
Hard to pass up a brown education
A Brown education with with dad writing the checks.
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Emory is a great school. So is Wake Forest. They're both tough to get into and have healthy endowments. Wake has a beautiful campus. Daughter had a full ride (as in, zero out of pocket, including room and board) to go to grad school there. Turned it down for Brown. FYFMFE.
Hard to pass up a brown education
A Brown education with with dad writing the checks.
Maybe because I live in nyc, but I feel like uva is on a decline (like wake forest 15 years ago) Also schools like Emory seems to be more up and coming
Emory is a great school. So is Wake Forest. They're both tough to get into and have healthy endowments. Wake has a beautiful campus. Daughter had a full ride (as in, zero out of pocket, including room and board) to go to grad school there. Turned it down for Brown. FYFMFE.
As a fellow Virginia resident, unless she's getting into McIntire, I agree that UW is probably better for the quant-ish stuff.
For lowly liberal arts degrees, UVA or William and Mary are definitely better. UW is a relatively unknown quantity out here.
Penn State is the ASU of the Northeast.
Mostly true. If "lowly liberal arts degrees" include physics, psychology, sociology and math (just off the top of my head), and a smattering of other stuff, UW is actually better than UVa, and I'd expect it's better than W&M across the board ... at least in terms of department rankings, which is driven by research; something with which W&M can't compete with UW.
UVa is going to have the prestige edge amongst the snooty smarty crowds, and it's better than UW in several/some things; and it's overall more selective and harder to get into than UW. So the Wall Street people will like it more, as just one example of how that plays out.
Comp. Sci. or anything in the health sciences and UW is clearly better school. You're right that not everybody will know that, but at that level uninformed you shouldn't care.
Agree with all of this, but to 99% of the world a UVA degree is an elite degree. UW is not. I say this as a UW grad (undergrad). UVA, whether deserved or not, is the east coast Berkeley (whether deserved or not). But maybe that is what you were saying anyway. English isn't my first language. And neither is Cuban.
We speak Cuban here engin. I thought we? were clear at the time of the transfer of power.
Agreed; UVa is the Berkeley and UNC Chapel Hill is the UCLA. The east coast doesn't have a lot of great public universities outside of the academies, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. The midwest and west are where that game is played best. Florida has become a very solid public U, as has Georgia. But they would suffer the same "ok" reputation rep as UW. UVa and UNC are acceptable to the academis elites. As far as publics, Cal is the better school, followed somewhat closely by Michigan, just IMO.
Georgia Tech would like a word. To me GaTech is the 2nd best east coast public after UVa, and the best at anything science or quantitative.
Penn State was ranked in the 60s last I recall. It's not awful. Maryland is.... ok. But I do agree with the premise, for as many people live up in the Northeast corridor there are precious few great public universities for them.
GT is great at what it's great at: Engineering and related areas. It's a great school, but I'm not sure I'd put it over UNC Chapel Hill. At best along side it as equals.
Definitely would put unc over gt in every regard unless it is engineering. Vandy’s prestige is a fucking myth everyone talks about it just never seen any vandy grads that are notable. I would say only school in the south is legit as fuck is duke
Duke is legit, and also an example of the reality that money can buy you a lot of history. One of my Dad's old biz partners went there, and he used to joke that he was glad he caught the elevator when it was on the first floor. It was at one point the school for southern kids who couldn't crack Vandy. Then one day they said, "fuck it. we're going to be top ten in everything that matters," and they did it. Combine that with a crazy nice campus, and boom ... Duke is the Harvard of the Souwf.
As a fellow Virginia resident, unless she's getting into McIntire, I agree that UW is probably better for the quant-ish stuff.
For lowly liberal arts degrees, UVA or William and Mary are definitely better. UW is a relatively unknown quantity out here.
Penn State is the ASU of the Northeast.
Mostly true. If "lowly liberal arts degrees" include physics, psychology, sociology and math (just off the top of my head), and a smattering of other stuff, UW is actually better than UVa, and I'd expect it's better than W&M across the board ... at least in terms of department rankings, which is driven by research; something with which W&M can't compete with UW.
UVa is going to have the prestige edge amongst the snooty smarty crowds, and it's better than UW in several/some things; and it's overall more selective and harder to get into than UW. So the Wall Street people will like it more, as just one example of how that plays out.
Comp. Sci. or anything in the health sciences and UW is clearly better school. You're right that not everybody will know that, but at that level uninformed you shouldn't care.
Agree with all of this, but to 99% of the world a UVA degree is an elite degree. UW is not. I say this as a UW grad (undergrad). UVA, whether deserved or not, is the east coast Berkeley (whether deserved or not). But maybe that is what you were saying anyway. English isn't my first language. And neither is Cuban.
We speak Cuban here engin. I thought we? were clear at the time of the transfer of power.
Agreed; UVa is the Berkeley and UNC Chapel Hill is the UCLA. The east coast doesn't have a lot of great public universities outside of the academies, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. The midwest and west are where that game is played best. Florida has become a very solid public U, as has Georgia. But they would suffer the same "ok" reputation rep as UW. UVa and UNC are acceptable to the academis elites. As far as publics, Cal is the better school, followed somewhat closely by Michigan, just IMO.
Georgia Tech would like a word. To me GaTech is the 2nd best east coast public after UVa, and the best at anything science or quantitative.
Penn State was ranked in the 60s last I recall. It's not awful. Maryland is.... ok. But I do agree with the premise, for as many people live up in the Northeast corridor there are precious few great public universities for them.
GT is great at what it's great at: Engineering and related areas. It's a great school, but I'm not sure I'd put it over UNC Chapel Hill. At best along side it as equals.
Definitely would put unc over gt in every regard unless it is engineering. Vandy’s prestige is a fucking myth everyone talks about it just never seen any vandy grads that are notable. I would say only school in the south is legit as fuck is duke
Duke is legit, and also an example of the reality that money can buy you a lot of history. One of my Dad's old biz partners went there, and he used to joke that he was glad he caught the elevator when it was on the first floor. It was at one point the school for southern kids who couldn't crack Vandy. Then one day they said, "fuck it. we're going to be top ten in everything that matters," and they did it. Combine that with a crazy nice campus, and boom ... Duke is the Harvard of the Souwf.
Already on Page 3? Lulz. Nothing gets Creep rolling like academis. You need to quit your pretend law practice and go write for US News and World Report.
The "elite school" culture is something I have seen through friends' experiences. A good friend went to Princeton out of HS (he wanted to go to Montana for football, but his parents said "NO"), and he flunked out after two years. His roommates were east-coast / foreign prep school rich boys, bowls full of coke, driving Porsches, and he was a kid from EWA driving a 76 Nova...he started going into NYC all the time to punk clubs. He never did graduate, but he turned out ok, retired at 37 after working on something called "Windows"...to think I considered going to Dartmouth, I probably would have been home by the first Christmas. Or a hedge fund manager...
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Penn State was ranked in the 60s last I recall. It's not awful. Maryland is.... ok. But I do agree with the premise, for as many people live up in the Northeast corridor there are precious few great public universities for them.
I was like uhh I live within 2 miles of motorola microchip honeywell and intel. My school was like half asian.
I didn't realize that everyone had to go to private schools or you'll be stuck with the ghetto trash out east.
UVa gets a lot of mileage out of Thomas Jefferson in my humble opinion from afar
Smart girl.